The very special thread for bereaved mums , dads , grandparents and anyone who has felt the agonising pain of child bereavement . Whatever madness you are feeling you will find a knowing ear .

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Welcome one and all , old and new .

We are all here in all our different stages and memories to support each other along the way .

Good evening girls. Everlong good to see you sweetheart.

Frasersmummy - On my due date, midwife was worried that I was measuring small. I had 4 growth scans before this, the last ne being at 38 weeks. All of them were fine. She sent me for an emergency scan, and my fluid had dropped below the 5th centile and Noor's growth had slowed. They induced me straight away. I don't think this contributed to her death unless I had a small rupture which allowed infection to enter. I never noticed any leakage at all though. Anyway, after she died, I started reading up about everything like a mad woman. I came across IUGR and the link with stillbirth and it made me so angry that the risks can be minimised with extra scans. I am sorry you went through this and the rubbish sonographer.

everlong - thank you for the lovely welcome. I am sorry about the loss of your son. He will forever be your baby, regardless of age. I know a lovely man who has worked for my family since before I was born (I am 32). He lost his son who was 18. Apart from my husband, he is the only person who I talk to about how I feel as he understands (but I cannot comprehend his or your loss). His son died 12 years ago and the grief is still so heavy in his eyes. It won't leave any of us.

Good morning girls xx

Good morning xx

sh77 welcome to out lovely thread . I am so sorry to hear about your daughter Noor . Like others have said please keep coming here and talking , there is nothing you can say that would freak us out xx.

I hope everyone is ok this morning , I can feel Harrys anniversary about to bite me on the bum but at the moment all is ok .

Bet I can freak you out ....

I was sitting watching telly last night, caught movement out the side of my eye and there was a mouse on the hearth.

I screamed it ran back behind th fire .. repeat every 10 mins till I gave up and went to my bed leaving dh to deal

I says to him a few hours later did you sort it.. sort what .. the mouse

What do you want me to do catch it with my bare hands..so what did you do..I ignored it.. it left

oh fabby .. well done.. so now I am sitting here staring at the fireplace hoping it will sleep during the day

Am off to buy a trap

euw mice. Them being alive doenst bother me too much. Its when their in a trap

@ mouse!!

I have just made several grovelling phone calls about bills to Virginmedia etc etc....I have told so many fibs its a wonder my nose hasn't grown!! Oh well....

You dont think Virginmedia can read my posts on here do you?

I see your mouse and raise you a rat

We tried everything to get rid of the bloody thing but nothing worked . It would just appear every few weeks to say hello for a day or two and then bog off again .

I haven't seen it now for ages but my neighbour has recently told me that they think they have a ratty visitor

Seems it has moved house .

Whats a couple of fibs Shabs ? If it manages to save you money then all the better x

morning girls.welcome sh77 and what a lovely name.
shabs never mind telling porkies it serves them right ha ha crap service,we have talk talk at the moment .dh always likes bt for phone,negas for gas and ye for electric but since im saving 50 quid a month i like talk talk,but its slowerxxx

c'mon shabs.. cheer us all up with what you told virginmedia and why??

For the first time in our 32 years of marriage we are living on benefits - hate it, hate it, hate it...but there is no other option!

The money we get is less per week than the two of us used to pay in tax and insurance when we were working.

We are struggling so much it is making me feel ill - I am sick to death of putting my 'face on' before I go out.

I just rang them and told them how wonderful they were and how much I enjoyed getting my services from them and then begged for longer to pay the bill. The bloke LOL and said he admired my cheek and allowed me to do what I wanted to

....and now Im sit here having a quiet cry after reading my post

Feel like I just cant 'do' all this crap anymore...but

It's horrible asking for longer on bills. When I've done it ive hated it... Oh shit that reminds me i must catch up with my TV license sent me a letter as Im a whole £8 behind even after being ahead for ages (no idea how i managed that lol) Shabs your a strong person Im sure you can get through this

I will Shelley - I know I will....just seems like everything is caving in around me. Im having a few of those 'why me' days - even though I know the answer is 'why not you.'

Im being pessimistic and thats driving me mad because thats not my normal way of 'being' if you get what I mean.

I want to say that when my nephew passed away, my sister was the bravest woman in the world and i'm so proud of her. Jack was 3 months old when he died of cot death 8 years ago. Rest in peace Jack xxx

lilyjen - what a beautiful post...how is your sister doing now? Is there anything we can do to help her or you? xx

We all have days like that.

DS has just set me off was telling me about Matt, started drawing pictures and the first one he did was Matt.

shelleylou , that is so sad but it is lovely that Matt obviously means so much to your ds .

My youngest stood outside the other night looking at the stars and asked which one was Harrys . I pointed up and then he started singing Twinkle twinkle little star . It broke my heart . He then asked me if I thought Harry would be able to hear it and did I think he would like it ?

It was so lovely of him but bloody hell .

'Out of the mouths of babes?'

xxxx

yes it is lovely. ds has just turned 3 so only had matt for a short time but made so much of an impact. He often tells me matts riding his bike or that he's in the sky whether just there or a star or the sun, its what i told him the day of matts death. I cant say that matt died that to me implies it was peaceful and expected.

Thats really sweet of your youngest.

Good morning

It's a bit blummin early

Morning - you are not wrong!!!

Morning all, jsut popping in and out as am a bit snowed under at the mo and shouldn't really be on MN at all

Love you all and love to TW's youngest ds. What a cutie in a lump in the throat type of way xxx

WW shabs sorry.. there was me being soo flippant yesterday .. didnt realise you were struggling ...

lilyjen.. what a lovely thing to do... I hope your sister sees this

better get back to work as i shouldnt be here either