Cole's thread for bereaved muumies: like the sands on the beach that never wash away. I watch over my surviving mum, who thinks of me each day.

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Welcome to our santuary and haven ladies.

Many thanks for Frasersmummy for passing the baton onto Cole and I. I am touched and hope I can do all our lo's justice.

For any people wanting to join, don't be shy. We cry, we rant, we smile, we laugh - whatever we feel like we need to do.

FM - it's hard though, isn't it? (((hugs)))

Well i took boyo to a birthday party today. While i was there i bumped into another loss mum. Her daughter was born in August, at 24 weeks, and lived for a week. I knew of her, as i'd been speaking to her mum, but didn't know her, iyswim? She's doing ok. Not good, but ok. I've invited her round for a coffee and a natter when i eventually move - i hope she takes me up on it.

Hope everyones had a peaceful weekend.

Hello everyone, Shabster told me to come over here ...so here I am.

I don't often lose my temper on MN but some of those posters on the other thread really made my blood boil!

Anywa, I am Squirdle. I have 4 boys aged 15, 6 and 4 and my beautiful angel Cai who would have been 16 in December. He was stillborn at 30 weeks due to pre-eclampsia.

Hiya Squirdle - sorry tht you have to be here, but glad you found us. I'm Deemented (most of the time actually) and i'm a sahm to boyo, who's four - we lost his twin brother shortly after they were born - and 8 month old flossy. I've recently become a widow and am in the middle of moving house.

Oh Deemented, I am so sorry to hear that. You have been through so much. I hope the house move is a fresh and happy start for you x

Hiya Squirdle - glad you came.

OMG I had pre-eclampsia when I was having my twins - its not a very nice thing is it?

We match - I am the proud mum of four boys as well. Oh yes and my first grandchild - another little boy. My gang are twins (aged 27) Dan and Gareth, Matt (aged 24) and Tom (aged 11)

Very sadly lost Gareth and Matt. xxxxx

I was incredibly ill when I had Cai....but I still feel had they induced me earlier instead of leaving me for a week, he'd be here today

4 boys is great isn't it. Mine are Cai, Alex 15, Caleb 6 and Dylan 4.

It's so sad that so many have lost children. And you have sadly lost 2. We never forget them though, do we.

Never, ever, ever forget them. I lost Gareth in 1982 when he was 7 months old (congenital heart defects) and Matt in 1992 when he was almost 8 - he was killed by a reversing lorry.

I had the twins in 1981 and they didnt do routine scans then. I found out I was having them 10 days before they were born at 38 weeks. I was so poorly - I had quite advanced pre-eclampsia. I never had a day of ill health before I had them and now I have high blood pressure and take beta blockers for panick attacks as well.

I love your sons names by the way xx

Good morning girls xx

Morning all.

Lottie - so sorry to hear about your Aunty, my thoughts are with you all. Take care.

FM - I just want to give you a big hug. I think removing baby stuff from the house is emotional anyway, but when you have an extra special attachment it must be a real wrench. I still feel the nursery is Cole's rather than Mac's room. Maybe we should have re-decorated it? Who knows.

Squirdle - welcome to our thread. Sorry we have to meet in these circumstances though. I lost my son (Cole) when he was 15 months old in Nov 07. We also have a son (Mac) who is 19 weeks old today. Stick around and have a chat

Dee - I didn't realise you were moving too. Blimey, you must be one busy lady. Are you moving far?

Morning folks. I would say it was a good morning, but this thread www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/636535-To-think-that-having-twins-is-overrated?msgid=13 990673 has totally put my back up - am i being uber sensitive here? Please tell me if i am?

ILTMIMI - i'm moving two streets away from where i am at the moment - I'm currently in an adapted bungalow, as my husband was disabled, and now they need the bungalow back so we're going to a house.

Dee - Im going for a nosey on the thread - but before I even look at it you are not being uber sensitive

xx

Have posted!! I dont think you are angry enough to be honest

I have a feeling that may come later!!!

I just get so... GAHHHHHHH at people.... yes it may well be hard work, and yes, it's ok to have a moan... but saying you wished that you'd lost one of them just isn't right.

Thanks, Shabs, for backing me up

I would even if I didnt agree with you

All for one and one for all I reckon xx

The 'twin' thing hit me when we sat around the Xmas dinner table. Me, DH, Tom, My mum and dad, Danny (my twin), his partner Em and baby Lewis. I had to struggle not to cry. Gareth and Matt should have been there as well with their partners. Never, ever understand people who start threads with those sort of feelings. Weirdo's

It used to hit me at really weird times - like when i went shopping, putting boyo in a trolley seat - there'd be an empty seat next to him, and that would always get to me, or when he was looking at himself in the mirror and saying there was two of him... lately it's been that he's been asking for bunk beds... i couldn't stand thaat one would be empty, so that's a no-no...

Oh yes I know what you mean. Danny always made friends with twins He always had friends who were seen as the 'underdogs' at school. I hated school pictures - that used to really get to me.

He asked me, when he knew I was on Mumsnet, to not put any twin pictures on my profile. He said 'Gareth looks so very poorly on them Mum, when we are next to each other he looks 'blue' - please dont put them on.'

Morning everyone. Wilf and I are off to London this morning for a hospital appointment. Peeing down with rain here and wild winds too! Have got to go the shop to get ingriedients for a packed lunch!

Good luck at the hospital today Lottie - hope everything is ok. Its a wild and windy day here as well.....and still dark

Hiya Everlong - was just thinking about you!! How are you doing my owd mucker?

Good morning all

Welcome Squirdle , I am glad you have found us but sorry you had to .

I hope everyone is ok this morning , I have decided I am doing as little as possible today . We have had a really busy weekend and I need a rest

TW - sit back and watch Jeremy Kyle His head has almost exploded this morning LOL

I would love to see his head explode

I can't stand him , he is the only person on the telly that I pray one day will be on the front page of The News of The World being caught doing drugs and sleeping with prostitutes , and maybe even beating up grannies . That would be a good day in the TW house

We have got Tom and Jerry on at the minute and I am trying to block it out .

How are you this morning ? Any more news on Trips oh ?

Awww poor Jezza - he speaks very highly of you!!

Triplets husband is improving. It sounds as if all the fears after his operation were caused by the operation - if you know what I mean. It was a long operation. He has been moved back to a normal ward. Trips says he is very weak, has no appetite and still has drips in. She did sound much more positive though. Apparently the liver will re-generate to its normal size in about 6 weeks - how amazing is the human body?