For Bereaved Mummies. Remembering Jack and our other precious little ones... the sharing of hurt is the beginnning of healing.

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Third time lucky........ Thanks to Shabs and FMN. I hope i can carry the baton as well as you did. I havent made a good start though. Things can only get better.........

Morning ladies hope today finds you all well.

FMN sorry only just commented on the last scan and you're already on the next. Glad all was well.

TW belated happy birthday for Harry. I shall raise my cuppa to him this morning. Sometimes our mums a re a disappointment aren't they?

Morning Charley - good idea....Happy Birthday Harry (sorry I am a day late) I hope you had a party with my boys in Heaven. If they had some dirty beer I am sorry but they are all grown up now Hope they behaved themselves. Happy Birthday little man

happy birthday young manxx morning girlsx

Thank you to all of you

I am feeling ok (ish) this morning just dissapointed . I suppose I don't understand how someone can forget especially his nanna ( I mean she would have to remember if he was still here wouldn't she ? )

FMN Glad the scan went well

TW, I'm sad for you that your mum forgot Happy birthday Harry!

Hi Orange welcome aboard .. I am sorry to meet you in these circumstances

Its awful when your own mum doesnt remember isnt it.. makes you want to yell at them.. actually i did yell at mine

One of the many great things about this thread is that we all remember each other. I was really delighted when I logged in here one day in April and there were a load of posts saying happy b/day fraser ..

happy belated b/day harry

fmn how are you holding up.. are you having movement yet ?

hope everyone else is ok today

Hi everyone!! hope your all well.
OMG ive had 8 days with no landline or internet and ive been so lost- just had to read 4 pages to catch up on here!! LOL

Hi OM welcome to the 'gang' sorry for your loss. x

TW Happy belated birthday Harry. im sorry to hear your mum forgot. I know how you feel my dad forgot my Jacks birthday only on the 2nd year I was heartbroken, but couldnt bring myself to say anything incase 'I upset him' but I think if he does it again I will say something this year cause its just eaten at me all year but feel i should of said at the time.

FMN glad to hear your scan went well.

xx

Morning girls.

Glad to have you back with us Mel - Im bad enough if I forget to take my mobile out with me

morning girls hope everyone okxxxxxxxx

Good morning all

How is everyone today ?

Hiya you two early birds - all well at Shabster Towers xx

Glad to hear it Shabs

Morning all.......... am off on a course this morning... speak later xx

al well here im still only one up ,been up since 5

You ok Hazy? You must be very tired. xx

Just watching Jeremy Kyle and cant stop crying. A young couple who have had a late misscarriage and a stillbirth. They now have a 11 month old but are both dabbling in drugs and she just admitted the house they live in is a tip.....poor buggers - OMG how I remember that feeling of desperation, of not giving a shite if anything is cleaned. They are so very young. Wish there mums were on stage with them. Hopefully Jezzer will sort it out for them.

Oh - the young lad is crying already....oh they both are. Why does all this crap happen - any idea anybody?

Wish someone would give them both a hug

J. Kyle is getting the couple help - thank God. There friends came on - no sign of any parents anywhere. The young lad said 'when I see the baby smile its the only time I am happy.

If there is a God....well, to be honest, I cant believe there is one. Why take a precious child and not the robbing,nasty, people of this world. Whats all that about???

hi everyone

you've got me thinking now shabster. I do believe there is a god and a heaven. And if I'm honest its only the thought that Fraser is with God and I shall meet him one day that keeps me going

That said.. I hate it when people say oh it was god's will or part of god's plan or
god never meant him to be here with you.

I nearly hit someone at my work in the early days who was insistent that it was god's will and that someday I would know why he had done it.

I just think God can do so much but like the rest of us cant legislate for man's idiocy. Eg he gave me Fraser but didnt acct for stupid midwife. I think the fact we conceived Ross so quickly says to me that losing Fraser was a mistake that god never meant to happen

enough incoherent ramblings

shall go do some housework while ross is watching 101 dalmations..

Not ramblings my love - just pure honest thoughts.

The show really upset me this morning - think because the couple looked so lost and so very, very young.

Dont you just hate it when someone says 'It was Gods will?'

hi girls sorry been to viit my fil,then my mother then girls came and we went to pick me niece up,then im at work at 8 so i will be tired by tomorrow.
i missed jeremy but i do love show,its so sad isnt it and i too question god and why did he take jayden.
someone once said to my dd that its a blessing cos you would never cope with four ,work that out,or its a blessing they didnt bring him back cos hed been brain damaged,sorry but anything would be better than left like this,sorry rantingx

No apologies necessary Hazy....we are all friends on here

Sounds like you have had a very busy day my love.

xxxx

Hi all,
Not been up to a lot today just cleaning the old fish tank to see f its worth putting on ebay. My DH got a job today but they dont want him to start yet- just means we might have to cancel(or sell) our holiday at the end of Oct if they get funny cause theres traning to do and when he mentioned it at the interview they werent sure if it would be a problem. Its only a cheapy sun hol but I know Hayden will be so disappointed.

no offence to anyone else cause everyone has their own opinions, but I agree with shabs. Ive never believed in god myself but most of my family do and they say similar things -it was gods will & he had his reasons. I cant find any reason for parents to suffer the loss of their children (& the other painful things people have to go through throughout their lives) and yet theres so many nasty & cruel people walking about. It just doenst make sense to me.
When we chose what to write on Jacks stone it felt so wrong making a reference to god.
I also dont believe in heaven but find it so hard to 'place' where Jack is right now. Which i turn i think makes it harder for me to deal with. Im sure i'll know in time. But I think its great (& im a bit envious) that others 'know' where there little one is whether its heaven or elsewhere.
X

Mel
you may have seen this before.. I have shamelessly stolen it from someone on this thread ...

These are my footprints, so perfect and so small.
These tiny footprints never touched the ground at all.
Not one tiny footprint, for now I have my wings.
These tiny footprints were meant for other things.
You will hear my tiny footprints, in the patter of the rain
Gentle drops like angel tears, of joy and not from pain.
You will see my tiny footprints, in each butterflies lazy dance.
I?ll let you know I?m with you, if you give me just a chance.
You will hear my tiny footprints, in the rustle of the leaves.
I will whisper names into the wind and call each one that grieves.
Most of all these tiny footprints are found in mommy?s heart.
Cause even though I?m gone now, we?ll never truly part.

Oh poo Frasersmammy - I must be menopausal today I have started with the tears again

I KNOW that my boys are not in the grave we put their bodies into....I ALSO KNOW that they are around us, every second of every day. They are in my husbands soul when he cries every time he hears a song that makes him think of them. They are in Tom and Dan when they both do that cheeky smile that says 'dont tell me off Mam I didn't mean to do it.' They are deep within my heart constantly. They are in my grandsons face, in his gestures and his actions - they are in his colouring and his eyes. All our children are always with us - always and forever.