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Eris' thread for bereaved mummies

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feedmenow · 16/04/2008 16:28

OK, so the thread begins! I tried to think og something better to call it, but all I have in my head (still) is Shabsters comment about how it would have been better if we'd all met on a thread called 'how to cope with excessive wind'!

Anyway, we have somewhere to come now. Somewhere 'proper' where we can chat and remember our precious lost children, whether they were stillborn like my angel, or whether they were with us for 2 hours, 2 weeks, 2 months, 2 years or 20 years. No matter how long they were here it is still so very wrong to lose a child.

I just wanted to tell you all about yesterday. It was such a very strange day. Dp and I were collected by the FD in the limo that Eris was in and we drove slowly down our road behind one of the FD men. I felt like a fraudster, like I was going to be caught out and asked what the hell we were doing 'playing' around.

Anyway, it turns out that the crem we went to is absolutely beautiful, really gogeous gardens. The service was lovely. The songs and music we chose were perfect, and both my mum and mil got up and said some really touching, beautiful words. The minister read a story I had chosen and also an extract from Winnie the Pooh that he suggested. I sat with my dd1 on one side and my ds the other, then dp next to him. We all had our arms around each other and I cried silently throughout. Then at the end the minister asked everyone else to leave so the 4 of us could say our final goodbyes, at which point I started weeping with a vengeance. It wasn't til we went outside to join everyone else that I saw all the people who had come to be with us.

We went back to my parents house for brunch, which went really well. I come from a family who crack open the wine and beer at the earliest opportunity, so the wine flowed along with the tea and coffee for the drivers. It was a beautiful day, the sun shining, so we went into the garden. The children and the men played football, the ladies chatted and did a bit of skipping (who would have ever known that I could still 'jump in'???. I had got some helium balloons printed with the words "Too beautiful for earth..." so everyone released one and 'raised a toast' to Eris. People gradually drifted off home, but a group of people stayed with us all afternoon and into the evening. We had takeaway and eventually got home about 10pm. It was a very special day. I talked about Eris lots and, very importantly, people had fun. A very important thing to do, IMO, when celebrating a life instead of mourning a death. As people left I asked them all to be sure to remember my little baby girl, to think of her often and not let her be forgotten.

Dp and I set up a fundraising page to raise money for SaNDS for people to make donations instead of brining flowers. When I checked earlier today, we have had donations of £1360! It makes me sad that we're in the position to have received those donations, but we smile when we realise how much people care.

Anyway, dp went to the FD this afternoon and picked up Eris' ashes, so we at least have now brought our daughter home. It raised a few laughs yesterday when we were asked what we planned to do with the ashes and I said we would bring her home and put her in the wardrobe with nanny (whose ashes have been in my wardrobe for 2 years now!). Some might find this odd, but others thought it touching and comforting that they would be in the wardrobe together.

Anyway, I have wittered on more than I intended. I am pleased to say that I do actually feel a sense of peace now that the funeral is over. Both dp and I had been scared of yesterday as we were both aware that a funeral brings about a finality and reality to what has happened. And somehow, facing that finality has helped me achieve a degree of acceptance.

So, in memory of my precious baby daughter, Eris, I would like to pronounce this thread for bereaved mummies "OPEN"!!

OP posts:
triplets · 07/06/2008 10:29

Just twisted imho!

Doobydoo · 07/06/2008 10:40

Morning ladies
Love the name Ruby
Hope Wilf had a good time?
I read all the posts from you lot on THAT thread and thought you all posted eloquently and not at all aggressively and also you all sounded calm.Bloody well done
I posted but was just rude.I saw total red mist i am afraid.
Can understand why you would be nervous chegirl but i think it brave of you all.It is important to take the opportunity to do these things if you can,i think,in order to raise awareness.I think it brave of you i really do.
I do hope you all have a lovely day.And am so proud[that is the right word]of the way you posters posted on that thread.

lottiejenkins · 07/06/2008 11:02

Is Chegirls story in the paper today? I can access the Mirror online but dont know wher to look?

Doobydoo · 07/06/2008 11:17

It is under headline..The TRagic cousin that inspired Leona LewisI am just about to read it.

chegirl · 07/06/2008 11:21

Hello Lottie,

(little giggle at your repeated posts)
Its in! ITs not too bad, nice and nothing lurid.
You can get it online if you just do a search for leona lewis it should come up with something like tragic cousin (yuk). No pictures of Bille in the online version but also they havnt got the picture of me that makes me look like Mrs Marple.
Thanks for taking an interest.

Shabs and Hazy. I know what you mean. When my niece got famous we kept opening the paper to see Billies name all over it. It was so upsetting. She was just a illness to them, someone who was only important because her cousin was famous. We had more control over this one.

Doobydoo · 07/06/2008 11:22

Oh Chegirl.I don't know what to sayWhat a brave daughter.I think you came across very clearly and emotionally in the article,it must have been so hard for you.
Great that the 100.000 is going to the charity.Well done it must have been hard.xx

Doobydoo · 07/06/2008 11:23

to MIss Marple.

shabster · 07/06/2008 11:36

chegirl - sat reading the Mirror (as always) a few hours ago. Just glancing through - the name Billie just jumped out at me....I sat there thinking 'where have I heard that before!!!' That was a wonderful article. Fantastic pictures - and no, not Miss Marple! You all looked really good.

I remember Leona telling that story on XFactor and everybody in our house sat quietly crying.

I think, in my humble opinion, that article is a job well done. It will bring attention to the story - obviously helped by Leona BUT thats what families should be doing - standing in each others corner.

shabster · 07/06/2008 11:38

Dippy never apologise for any of your posts...that goes for the rest of you. We are all here for each other...no matter what questions are asked or what emotions we show.

The weird spelling thing - imho for attention. xx

lottiejenkins · 07/06/2008 11:51

What an amazing article... Billie was so brave Chegirl..... How great that Leona waived her fee too. I like and admire Leona very much. I read somewhere yesterday that she doesnt like alcohol and won't be seen falling out of taxis or wearing skimpy clothes... what a positive role model for the younger generation today. I thought the paper covered the article and stroy very well. Am sad for you Chegirl that she couldnt be here to see Leonas success. i am going to start giving blood soon, my aunt turned 70 last year and had to stop giving blood and i promised her i would take over, i'm also looking into being a bone marrow donor, will have to ask things like how long would i be in hospital because of Wilf etc and how he would cope with it all, because of the length of time his Dad was ill and in and out of hospitals he doesnt like people going in ambulances or being in hospital

shabster · 07/06/2008 11:55

Somebody on our thread will know the answer to this question. I wanted to start giving blood. When I asked my GP he said I wouldn't be able to because I have had cervical cancer twice....is that right? Hasten to add I have been clear for years - just have to have a smear test every 12 months.

Is there an age limit on bone marrow donors?

chegirl · 07/06/2008 16:08

HI all,

Thank you for your kind comments.

Shabs - sorry you cant give blood if you have had cancer. But you CAN harrass and bully other people into doing it!
I am pretty sure the age limit is 40 for bone marrow donors.

Lottie completly understand about going into hospital etc. I didnt go on the register till after Billie died. I could not have taken even an hour off from being with her.
To go on the register takes a couple of minutes, just a blood test. If you are matched it is a day procedure. There are two different ways of harvesting the bone marrow and neither are as invasive as people imagine (no great big drills involved!). You should not be out of action for very long - no more than a couple of days. Its a bit ironic really, by the time most of us have seen a bit of life and began to understand how important it is to give blood etc, we are nearly too old! Its just as important to get our kids to do and their friends. Thats why I am hoping youngters will be inspired by Lea.

lottiejenkins · 07/06/2008 16:10

Che... there is a link on Youtube of Leona talking about Billie and sing Over The Rainbow... I was going to add it here but wanted to ask you if it was ok first, if you dont i will totally understand!

shabster · 07/06/2008 16:34

chegirl - suppose thats me out on both counts. We all carry donor cards and are registered with them via the internet.

Matt first got us started with that...he actually had his donor card in his pocket the day he was killed. He was disappointed with the size of his willie and hoped that one day he would be able to get a donors willy if he had a card He donated his corneas - they couldnt use any other organs sadly.

However Im good at being bossy and pestering people to help out with excellent causes

dippymother · 07/06/2008 16:40

Chegirl, excellent article, you should be very proud. I think 40 is the maximum age for bone marrow donors. When my DH was in hospital with Leukaemia, both his brothers were tested (although they were 40 and 44) but neither were a good match, so if DH were to ever need a bone marrow transplant, we would be looking at the national register, so it really is a good thing to do, if any MNers are interested....

hazygirl · 07/06/2008 16:40

i cant give blood because i have had blood transufions but my dh and ds have donated since jayden died they give a pint then go for a pintxx

chegirl · 07/06/2008 16:50

Lottie thats fine thanks for asking. I dont mind - the more people that know about Billie the better!

We need lots of bossy people to get everyone on the registers. Boss with pride!

Hazy - I have a Jaidon too x

lottiejenkins · 07/06/2008 16:58

Here we go then........
www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLr1sBQ5gpE
This is beautiful..............

feedmenow · 07/06/2008 18:34

Hi all, am back from sunny Corfu (bllody gorgeous it was too!) and semi-sunny Cardiff (went straight there yesterday after getting back from Gatwick to go to a friends wedding reception!). So finally got back home about half 3 this afternoon and went straight back out to Siansburys....yip-de-bloody-do!

Have scanned what has been going on. i see still no babies. Where the devil are they . Have not yet seen the tactless thread mentioned but plan to have a look shortly.

Listen, my friends. I hate having not been here for over a week and for not thoroughly checking how everyone has been but I need some support, bloody big time. You remember before I went that I was feeling really sad because it was Eveny's 9th bday and I realised what I would never have with Eris, etc, etc? Well, since then I feel that the emotions have really been coming hard and fast again and I'm frequently on the verge of tears in public and have to really fight to control myself, etc, etc. I really, really miss my little baby girl and dread the rest of my life with the weight I now have to carry in my heart. Anyway, here goes, I found out this afternoon that I am pregnant. I am absolutely devastated and heartbroken. I knew we would try for another at some point, but not this soon. I know I was obviously stupid to have allowed this to happen. I'm not saying that I'm not pleased, but I'm saying that I am so, so, sad. Cross with myself for not giving me more time. So sorry that my little girl has only been gone 3 months and I'm pregnant already. Tired, probably scared (although it isn't something I'm FEELING, more that I think fear is underlying, IYSWIM?) I just feel all confused. I don't know what I think or feel. I can't contemplate telling anyone in RL. I don't know how I'll get through the next few weeks cos I've got so many social events, including a hen weekend, coming up and I NEVER don't get drunk. I don't even know how many weeks I am cos I haven't had any proper cycles. Please send me hugs cos I'm really going to need help

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lackaDAISYcal · 07/06/2008 18:45

hi feedmenow, I pop in here to lurk every now and again and see how you are doing.

congratulations ....I think!
No real advice (maybe seek out ggglimpopo who must have gone through all this after she lost Maude), but buckets of {{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}} coming your way from me.

I can understand a teeny bit how confused this must make you feel though, at least I think I can; it was difficult enough being pregnant after the miscarriages and this must be 100x worse.

Take care lovely lady, and come back and say hello on Knicker checkers

dippymother · 07/06/2008 19:06

Oh FMW - we are here if you need us. I got pregnant 3 months after my son died so I know exactly how you feel - some people didn't approve really, they thought we should have waited a bit longer etc in case the new baby would be a replacement. But I assure you he never was a replacement and I feel blessed to have him (now a strapping 18 year old!). You are understandably scared (I was too) but the hospital will take good care of you with extra checks and scans etc to make sure everything is ok. They may even offer you a C.Section if you feel that would be better in the circumstances.

Sending you lots of ((((((Hugs)))))) from Essex.

shabster · 07/06/2008 19:07

Awww FMN - please dont be so hard on yourself. Congratulations - and I really mean that with all my heart. Eris would be thrilled for you - Im not trying to be flippant I really believe that. Ce sera sera my love. I had Matt about 18 months after Gareth died...I didn't think my heart would allow me to love another child but - guess what - I adored him. I was like you, terrified, weepy, depressed, scared of what would happen.

If I could physically hug you I would not let you go. We are all here for you. Congratulations my darling.

So pleased you enjoyed Corfu. xxxx

hazygirl · 07/06/2008 19:55

fmn jayden died december 2006 aged nearly 3 months as you probably know from sid ,september 2007 amelia was born there is a year and 10 days age difference , yet my dd has coped wonderfully , she goes on a site our forever babies and quite a few of them have been through this.congratulations on your pregnancy ,i mean that the baby will not be a replacement it is a brother or sisterxxx

glad to see another jayden too ,id not heard of this till our jayden was born,x

Doobydoo · 07/06/2008 20:20

Many congrats FMNand am sending a thousand hugs your way!
I wish I hadn't left is so long to have ds1 and then ds2.[9 years after and 17 years after]but i didn't meet my utterly fabuolous dp for quite some years after.
You will be full of mixed emotions.But it dosen't matter what anyone else thinks!You have a beautiful family and Eris and the baby now are individuals and I wish you all well.xxxxx

Doobydoo · 07/06/2008 20:20

I am registered with the Anthony Nolan Trust[bone marrow]Will be 40 in a year though.

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