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Eris' thread for bereaved mummies

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feedmenow · 16/04/2008 16:28

OK, so the thread begins! I tried to think og something better to call it, but all I have in my head (still) is Shabsters comment about how it would have been better if we'd all met on a thread called 'how to cope with excessive wind'!

Anyway, we have somewhere to come now. Somewhere 'proper' where we can chat and remember our precious lost children, whether they were stillborn like my angel, or whether they were with us for 2 hours, 2 weeks, 2 months, 2 years or 20 years. No matter how long they were here it is still so very wrong to lose a child.

I just wanted to tell you all about yesterday. It was such a very strange day. Dp and I were collected by the FD in the limo that Eris was in and we drove slowly down our road behind one of the FD men. I felt like a fraudster, like I was going to be caught out and asked what the hell we were doing 'playing' around.

Anyway, it turns out that the crem we went to is absolutely beautiful, really gogeous gardens. The service was lovely. The songs and music we chose were perfect, and both my mum and mil got up and said some really touching, beautiful words. The minister read a story I had chosen and also an extract from Winnie the Pooh that he suggested. I sat with my dd1 on one side and my ds the other, then dp next to him. We all had our arms around each other and I cried silently throughout. Then at the end the minister asked everyone else to leave so the 4 of us could say our final goodbyes, at which point I started weeping with a vengeance. It wasn't til we went outside to join everyone else that I saw all the people who had come to be with us.

We went back to my parents house for brunch, which went really well. I come from a family who crack open the wine and beer at the earliest opportunity, so the wine flowed along with the tea and coffee for the drivers. It was a beautiful day, the sun shining, so we went into the garden. The children and the men played football, the ladies chatted and did a bit of skipping (who would have ever known that I could still 'jump in'???. I had got some helium balloons printed with the words "Too beautiful for earth..." so everyone released one and 'raised a toast' to Eris. People gradually drifted off home, but a group of people stayed with us all afternoon and into the evening. We had takeaway and eventually got home about 10pm. It was a very special day. I talked about Eris lots and, very importantly, people had fun. A very important thing to do, IMO, when celebrating a life instead of mourning a death. As people left I asked them all to be sure to remember my little baby girl, to think of her often and not let her be forgotten.

Dp and I set up a fundraising page to raise money for SaNDS for people to make donations instead of brining flowers. When I checked earlier today, we have had donations of £1360! It makes me sad that we're in the position to have received those donations, but we smile when we realise how much people care.

Anyway, dp went to the FD this afternoon and picked up Eris' ashes, so we at least have now brought our daughter home. It raised a few laughs yesterday when we were asked what we planned to do with the ashes and I said we would bring her home and put her in the wardrobe with nanny (whose ashes have been in my wardrobe for 2 years now!). Some might find this odd, but others thought it touching and comforting that they would be in the wardrobe together.

Anyway, I have wittered on more than I intended. I am pleased to say that I do actually feel a sense of peace now that the funeral is over. Both dp and I had been scared of yesterday as we were both aware that a funeral brings about a finality and reality to what has happened. And somehow, facing that finality has helped me achieve a degree of acceptance.

So, in memory of my precious baby daughter, Eris, I would like to pronounce this thread for bereaved mummies "OPEN"!!

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LouiseAnn · 08/06/2008 22:20

Congratulations to Shabster, Lewis and family

shabster · 08/06/2008 23:54

Night night girls - and thank you for your lovely messages - so much appreciated.

Will see you in the morning.

Thanks again xxx

feedmenow · 09/06/2008 07:46

Morning all! Can't keep away for too long when theres a new baby around!!

Although saying that, I can't hang around either cos I need to get ready for work!

Will have to pop by later I suppuse and see how things are going....

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shabster · 09/06/2008 07:54

Morning FMN - Morning girls.

Doobydoo · 09/06/2008 08:55

Morning All
How's the new YAYA doing this morning?and Daniel,Emma and Baby Lewis,of course?
Hope everyone has a good day today
Dp in Germany,he went sun morning and is back sat morning.I don't like him being away for this long.xx

lottiejenkins · 09/06/2008 09:16

Morning all.........Wilf and I are off to his hospital appointment in London later on. Going to be a very very long day methinks. Not coming home till about 9.30 tonight!!!!!!!!!!!

flossie64 · 09/06/2008 14:42

Sorry this could be a bit long.
I have never posted on this thread before but Dippymother suggested I come here.
I am trying to write a card to my DS' stepmum ,her son died on Saturday at a festival.
What I plan to write :
Dear
I was very sorry to hear the terrible news about. No-one can begin to understand why these things happen.
He had grown into a great young man,a credit to you.
As one mother to another I will say that I would never wish for anything like this to anyone. My thoughts are with you and knowing that people care may bring you some solace.
I like to think of those that pass before us, as stars in the sky. Who light the way for us to carry on .
Even in your darkest hour this may give you something to focus on.
kindest regards
*
I might add we are not close but i really do feel for her and her DD. TIA

struwellpeter · 09/06/2008 14:58

That sounds lovely to me and very heartfelt. What a dreadful thing to have happened.

shabster · 09/06/2008 15:06

that is perfect flossie - just perfect. There is no death so sad as that of a child....

hazygirl · 09/06/2008 16:16

To fedmenow its hazygirls daughter donna i found out i was pg nt long after losing jayden that soon we didnt have the full answers to why jayden died. I never thought i cud do it but shes made us smile and bring a little joy bk i look at it as if jayden sent her to us. She will never replace jayden and she will know all about her bro. Please feel free to email me at [email protected] iam part of the ourforeverbabies support group and many parents in there have had a little one soon after losing there babys xx

dippymother · 09/06/2008 16:31

Flossie - welcome. Your letter sounds great and heartfelt. I did wonder if you could get someone to post it away from your area or type the envelope so your ex-H doesn't recognise it as being from you, then there may be more chance that your DS' stepmum will get it? Does that make sense. Good luck.

shabster · 09/06/2008 16:38

Nice post HazeyDonna - you described it perfectly.

Hazey - Danny and Emma wanted me to give you their thanks for the lovely clothes you sent. After Ems waters broke she sat at the computer ready to email a long list of people who had sent gifts. She did the first three and then the labour really kicked in When I saw her yesterday she was worried about the emails not sent to MN ladies!!! So on behalf of my DS and DD and WGB (wonderful gran baby) thank you very much.

hazygirl · 09/06/2008 16:51

congratulations shabs tell em no prob hope she liked, i showed my dd your pics and she thought he was so cute . hes very much like your sons isnt he.well im off to mancheaster airport at 5 in morning hes off to mexico for two weeks fully inclusive ,will b glad when hes back him and his gf both drink too much alcohol ;sore point ,

flossie64 · 09/06/2008 17:41

Thanks for welcoming me to your group.
I feel quite privledged as you all must be made of stronger stuff than me.
I have only lost older relatives and don't think I would know how to get through.
I have written the card now and will post later. I have addressed it to His mum only as I cannot find it in my heart to show any compassion for my ex, he was such a heartless pig.( and thats putting it mildly)
I have decided to write to my son aswell so He can see there possibly is a way thruogh this.

shabster · 09/06/2008 18:19

welcome flossie - lovely bunch of girls on here. All with different experiences and at different stages of grief. Its not always sad we often have a good laugh and I am always sending Feedmenows DP snogs through the internet

Also dont be afraid to ask questions - and dont think you will 'put your foot in it' with any of us. xxx

feedmenow · 09/06/2008 20:09

Flossie, I know the card is already sent but I just wanted to say that it is truly lovely of you, and the words you have chosen are really heartfelt. Good on you. xx

Donna, thank you for coming on to tell me that. I think I might check out the ourforeverbabies bit. Will also make a note of your email addres if you don't mind. In the last 28 hours my emotions have been up and down like a yo-yo and I don't have the first clue about what I'm really thinking or feeling. I've already pretty much decided that if it is a boy (which I expect it will be!) he'll be called Ries (as in Reece) in memory of Eris.

Lottie, hope the appointment went well today. xx

ILiketo, I'm glad (wrong word really but I know you'll know what I mean...) you said what you said about having Cole back in exchange for the new baby. I, too, feel like that at the moment. I can only hope that as time goes on I will learn to feel of the new baby as a gift from eris instead of something that I have instead of Eris. I know I'll love it, but there is such a difference between the tiny thing growing in me and the baby I gave birth to only 3 months ago, so of couse I feel that I feel more for the actual baby I had. And I really hope that all this is not coming out as confusing as I feel that I'm typing it!

Anyway, Shabs, how long do they think Emma will be in? Hopefully if she is doing well she'll be let out on Wednesday maybe?

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Doobydoo · 09/06/2008 20:19

Flossie..agree with the others about the card.You must have put so much thought into it.
Lottie hope Wilf's appt went well.You will be knackered when you get back i expect.
FMN...Hope you doing ok.All that emotion...where to put it is the problem sometimes i suppose.
Hope Emma and Lewis are still doing well Shabster?xxxxxxxxxxx

Doobydoo · 09/06/2008 20:20

FMN...Meant to say,,how lovely RIES...

shabster · 09/06/2008 20:28

Emma is very tired tonight. They say 3 - 5 days which means they will probably chuck her out before week-end.

FMN - my mum and dad went to see Lewis tonight. They have both been crying. Lewis is the double of Gareth our Dannys twin brother. I thought that yesterday but didnt say anything. Danny and Gareth were non identical and as they grew they went less and less alike. My mum cried when she held him and my dad couldnt hold him cause he was afraid to cry. They are both in their mid 70's. I can identify with the 'having a new baby to replace another baby' but believe me that is not how it is. A new baby is a 'second chance' a way to fill an aching heart again, someone to keep you very, very busy. I love your idea of the name. Keep posting sweetheart - we are all here to help xx

dippymother · 09/06/2008 21:16

Shabs - agree with you, a new baby is a second chance not a replacement. I think a replacement is how people view it who have not lost a child. We are all different and babies are too, they have their own personalities even at a very young age. Your emotions must be all over the place if you could see the likeness between Lewis and Gareth, must be those shabster genes!

FMN - I love the name, that would be perfect (if it's a boy). Will you find out before or will you prefer not to know?

Flossie - so pleased you wrote the card, I think it was very thoughtful of you, and will hopefully be appreciated by your DS' stepmum.

Lottie - hope the hospital appointment went ok today.

shabster · 10/06/2008 01:28

Night girls - I have wet the babies head and I am very drunk.

lottiejenkins · 10/06/2008 08:53

Well we had a really interesting journey home. We got to Liverpool Street at 6pm to find that all trains to Norwich werent going because of overhead power cables being down. Our train wasnt going till 7.30 so we went for something to eat, it was no better when we came back so i went to a guard and asked for disabled assistance to help us. A lady came and said she would get us on the next train. She then said it could be three to fours hours to wait. At this point i nearly burst into tears. Wilf was by this time very very hot and getting cross, bless her the lady said she'd try and authorise a taxi. She came back again and took us to the other side of the station and got us on the train to Shenfield to meet a taxi to take us to Diss. When we got on the train it was packed and Wilf lost the plot when told he would have to stand up A very nice man got up and gave Wilf his seat. We had a bumpy journey which included Wilfred learning to say ciao from an Italian couple who couldnt speak English!! We got off at Shenfield and eventually found the taxi(the street was full of commuters, policemen and coaches) after nearly being totaled by a fire engine we got in. The taxi driver was lovely and we set off to Diss, we stopped on the way for Wilf to get a drink and go to the loo, while he was in there i got chatting to the guy behind the till, he was so sweet and wouldnt charge Wilf for his choc and even gave him another bar!!! We eventually got to Diss Station at 10.15pm. The bill which im glad i didnt have to pay was £240. Wilf eventually went to bed and sleep about 11pm!!! WHAT A DAY!!!! I have to say everyones kindness has restored my faith in human nature,oh and im glad Wilf couldnt hear all the naughty commuters using the f word a lot!!!

ILikeToMoveItMoveIt · 10/06/2008 11:34

What an adventure Lottie It sounds you kept very calm, I would have been serioulsy stressed and pee'd off!

FMN - I know exactly what you mean. Eris was your baby girl, at the moment you just have an unknown 'thing' inside of you. So given the choice, you'd choose the known over the unknown. Please feel free to email me at anytime greensj @ waterswood co uk (losing the gaps and putting the dots in of course!)

Shabs - it must have been a bit of a session last night as you haven't been here yet this morning

shabster · 10/06/2008 11:43

Morning moveit - Morning girls.......a funny impromptu night.. Jo (my friend) has never been away from her son - my son and hers and 45 others from school have gone on PGL holiday till Friday at Borreton Park in Shrewsbury.

I caught her on msn having a good cry and imposed myself on her!!! We went to our other friends Chelles and ended up there till 1pm this morning. I had a face like a pirates flag when I woke up LOL - it looked like a landslide had happened on my face

We ended up Greek dancing? Trying to find a bottle of Ouzo that I had brought back in October from Rhodes. The trouble was....we found it Ridiculous behaviour for a Grandma I can hear you shout

Hope you are all well - Lottie that was an 'interesting' day!!!

feedmenow · 10/06/2008 18:59

Hi everyone.

Shabs, hope you weren't so drunk you suffered today I didn't think you were actually MEANT to drink Ouzo! I thought it was just a joke or a threat!!!!!
It's pretty special that he looks like Gareth isn't it? Quite beautiful to know that he lives on through his ancestors, kind of thing.

Dippy, I'll find out...I HAVE to! Not very good with waiting, me. I hate the idea of getting it into my head that it's one or the other then feeling slightly let down at the birth. I mean, I know from personal experience (obviously!) that there are much worse things to have got wrong/go wrong than the sex of the baby, but it's just the way I feel!
We were all convinced Eris was a boy and she was nicknamed Kevin until 22 weeks! Dp's family are all boys - he is one of boy triplets and his identical twin brothre has 3 boys. Our first child together was a boy, so we just thought Eris would be too. Even til she was actually born I wasn't banking on it.
But I think with this one, I will be in no doubts as we will apparebtly have a number of growth/reassurance scans.
Odd as well, when I was pg with Jay I suggested Rhys/Reece and Mark said no. Then when I was pg with Eris, dp suggested Rhys for a boy. So now I feel it's a bit fate-like and we will finally get our Rhys, albeit Ries.

Lottie, thank goodness you didn't have to pay £240!!!!!

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