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Eris' thread for bereaved mummies

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feedmenow · 16/04/2008 16:28

OK, so the thread begins! I tried to think og something better to call it, but all I have in my head (still) is Shabsters comment about how it would have been better if we'd all met on a thread called 'how to cope with excessive wind'!

Anyway, we have somewhere to come now. Somewhere 'proper' where we can chat and remember our precious lost children, whether they were stillborn like my angel, or whether they were with us for 2 hours, 2 weeks, 2 months, 2 years or 20 years. No matter how long they were here it is still so very wrong to lose a child.

I just wanted to tell you all about yesterday. It was such a very strange day. Dp and I were collected by the FD in the limo that Eris was in and we drove slowly down our road behind one of the FD men. I felt like a fraudster, like I was going to be caught out and asked what the hell we were doing 'playing' around.

Anyway, it turns out that the crem we went to is absolutely beautiful, really gogeous gardens. The service was lovely. The songs and music we chose were perfect, and both my mum and mil got up and said some really touching, beautiful words. The minister read a story I had chosen and also an extract from Winnie the Pooh that he suggested. I sat with my dd1 on one side and my ds the other, then dp next to him. We all had our arms around each other and I cried silently throughout. Then at the end the minister asked everyone else to leave so the 4 of us could say our final goodbyes, at which point I started weeping with a vengeance. It wasn't til we went outside to join everyone else that I saw all the people who had come to be with us.

We went back to my parents house for brunch, which went really well. I come from a family who crack open the wine and beer at the earliest opportunity, so the wine flowed along with the tea and coffee for the drivers. It was a beautiful day, the sun shining, so we went into the garden. The children and the men played football, the ladies chatted and did a bit of skipping (who would have ever known that I could still 'jump in'???. I had got some helium balloons printed with the words "Too beautiful for earth..." so everyone released one and 'raised a toast' to Eris. People gradually drifted off home, but a group of people stayed with us all afternoon and into the evening. We had takeaway and eventually got home about 10pm. It was a very special day. I talked about Eris lots and, very importantly, people had fun. A very important thing to do, IMO, when celebrating a life instead of mourning a death. As people left I asked them all to be sure to remember my little baby girl, to think of her often and not let her be forgotten.

Dp and I set up a fundraising page to raise money for SaNDS for people to make donations instead of brining flowers. When I checked earlier today, we have had donations of £1360! It makes me sad that we're in the position to have received those donations, but we smile when we realise how much people care.

Anyway, dp went to the FD this afternoon and picked up Eris' ashes, so we at least have now brought our daughter home. It raised a few laughs yesterday when we were asked what we planned to do with the ashes and I said we would bring her home and put her in the wardrobe with nanny (whose ashes have been in my wardrobe for 2 years now!). Some might find this odd, but others thought it touching and comforting that they would be in the wardrobe together.

Anyway, I have wittered on more than I intended. I am pleased to say that I do actually feel a sense of peace now that the funeral is over. Both dp and I had been scared of yesterday as we were both aware that a funeral brings about a finality and reality to what has happened. And somehow, facing that finality has helped me achieve a degree of acceptance.

So, in memory of my precious baby daughter, Eris, I would like to pronounce this thread for bereaved mummies "OPEN"!!

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chegirl · 07/06/2008 20:21

Hello, I hope you dont mind me added my comments. We dont know each other well but your post is so heartfelt.
Like others here I got pregnant not long after we lost our Billie girl. I found out the week of her first anniversary and went into freefall. I had been trying to get pregnant and thought it may not happen because of my age so baby was very much wanted.
The mix of emotions and hormones was just too much for me. The guilt at feeling so bad, the fact that everyone was so pleased for me they actually cried when they found out, the worry that if I loved another child something terrible may happen....
I was a mess. I did start to feel better as the first three months went by but I never truly got excited. This, I think, is our ultimate defence. Never expect things to be ok, never look forward.

But the joy my little boy has bought me has carried me through and given me a sort of 'holiday' from grief. I thought I could never feel happy ever again, those first few weeks were wonderful. I was carried away on a baby buzz! Of course that has calmed down and I miss my darling every minute of everyday but I do feel better than before.

Sorry for ramble. Just wanted to show some support and share some strength.

Best wishes to you x

feedmenow · 07/06/2008 21:17

Oh, thank you all! I just knew that you would all know the right things to say to me. And reading other peoples situations brings tears to my eyes (and who gives a stuff if Cod catches me saying that)

Dippy, I just know that there will be plenty of people who'll be negative - be it through not approving or just not understanding. But I think thats the thing - the not understanding. I know that there'll be people who'll think it too soon, and in some ways I actually agree! But on the other hand, nothing I do will ever bring Eris back. If a pregnancy happens now or in 5 years it still doesn't change the fact she isn't with us. And although I am no where near emotionally recovered I don't think a huge wait for us would have been right. Dd1 is already 9 and ds is 6. The bigger the gap, the longer we will have devoted our lives to child raising. Also, and probably most importantly, dp feels very strongly that he doesn't want to be an older dad. He isn't old at all, but he gets knackered running around with the kids and is therefore aware that the longer we left it, the more knackered he would probably be. Oh, look at me rambling!

Hazy, just wondering, did your dd fall pregnant planned after Jayden died, or was she already pregnant and just didn't know it?

Oh, thank goodness for here! I do have wonderful RL friends who would help me and support me, but they just can't possibly understand the cauldron of emotions like you lot.

One other thing that might bring smiles to a few faces........(whispers) we had sex on the beach

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hazygirl · 07/06/2008 21:21

dd got pregnant after jayden diedx
big hugs xx

feedmenow · 07/06/2008 21:24

Hazy, hope you don't think me pestering or prying, but was she already trying? Or did she know straight away that she needed to? Or was it a surprise?

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hazygirl · 07/06/2008 21:34

shock at first to me and her dad but her dd helped her alot .i just rang her tnite and her dd sat up and put arm through bar of cot she thinks shes a receptionest.ha ha
i told her about you and she said the best thing she did that helped was talking to others who understood,if you go on gonetoosoon look at jayden from leeds as i dont know how to link please meet our boyxx

feedmenow · 07/06/2008 21:45

Thank you Hazy. I just went to Jaydens gone too soon page. What a beautiful little boy. xx So brave of your dd to share that night with the world. It must have been utterly heartbreaking for you all

Your youngest gd must be, what, about 9 months old now?

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hazygirl · 07/06/2008 21:48

nearly nine months shes so like him to look at ,my dd not posting atm because of her ex hes an arsex

triplets · 07/06/2008 22:51

Girls thought you might like to know that Shabster left me a message on my phone to say her dil`s waters have broken, soooooo excited for her!

dippymother · 07/06/2008 23:04

Triplets, great news re Shabster's dil! Thanks for the post. Btw, how is your DH? I am off to bed now but will check in again tomorrow. XX

triplets · 07/06/2008 23:15

Hi Dippy,
Another message to say Em has gone to the hospital to be checked over!Shabs will be beside herself, she has looked forward to this baby from the moment of conception! Dh is ok, gets tired more quickly but apart from that is fine. He starts his chemo on the 17th, I am dreading this part of the journey

shabster · 08/06/2008 00:45

Definitly emmas waters have broken but they have sent her home...my DS has just run up my stairs and been sick over and over again. He is so worried that his firstborn will have heart problems and all the what ifs. She has to take her temp every 3 hours. I wish they had just kept her in for a few hours. Tommy and Dan are in a mess!! They keep crying and holding each other. Please god dont let anything go wrong. xxxxx

shabster · 08/06/2008 00:46

Sorry for that negative post...come on Lewis, your Grandma cant wait to meet you xx

triplets · 08/06/2008 00:48

Nothing will go wrong Shabs, Em will be back in in hours I`m sure!

shabster · 08/06/2008 00:50

I know that my love....I spend so much time hiding my feelings that when the real feelings come I dont know what to do.

triplets · 08/06/2008 00:51

I know Shabs, just get that Ya Ya face ready!!

shabster · 08/06/2008 00:54

Got it fixed on - Ya Ya Shabba xxxxx

triplets · 08/06/2008 00:57

You`re amazing and Lewis is going to be one lucky little lad who is in for such fun with you, xxxx

shabster · 08/06/2008 01:02

Afkharisto - Kale Nita my buddy.

Can you tell girls - I am trying to learn how to speak Greek???

hazygirl · 08/06/2008 06:01

shabs hes gonna be fine ,its worse than giving birth yourself waiting for your grandchild,and ive done it four times haha.im working till 2 but hope there will be news by then ,big hugs to you and a mega hug for emmax

Doobydoo · 08/06/2008 06:14

Waiting for the Good news Shabster!
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

ILikeToMoveItMoveIt · 08/06/2008 08:40

Blimey, it's been busy here since I last looked.

Hi FMN - I'm so glad you a lovely holiday and time away with your dh. The only sex on the beach I've ever had is the cocktail - so you go girl

I'm 27 weeks pg at the moment and conceived about 6 weeks after Cole died. We were trying to conceive, so it wasn't a big shock when I got my bfp, but I was surprised my body could conceive when I was such a wreck. However since getting pg, I have found out that it is very common for bereaved woman to conceive soon after losing a child, whether that is from conscious or unconscious conception, I don't know.

As much as I wanted this baby, at the beginning of the pg I had so many conflicting emotions (no doubt assisted by raging hormones). Was this too soon? Was I trying to replace Cole? Was I in the right frame of mind to bring another child into the world?

Was this too soon? Well another baby is what we wanted, and if Cole was still here with us we would have been having another about this time anyway.

Was I trying to replace Cole? What a question! Of course I wanted Cole back, I would sell my sole to the devil if I could. In my saner moments I knew that I couldn't replace Cole, and what dp and I needed more than anything was to feel like a family again (Cole is our first child). However in my darker moments I dreamed up the senario that if I could have Cole back I would get rid of this baby without a blink of an eye. I felt awful having this thought, here was this new life that I was willing to terminate for a scenario that was never going to happen. How could I bring a new baby into this world knwoing that I would swop it for Cole? I spoke to my mw about it and she said it was very normal to feel like this, and infact she had been waiting for me to have these emotions. My mw has been a great source of comfort.

Now being 27 weeks into the pregnancy I can honestly say all of the conflicting emotions I have have pretty much gone. Not completely, I still have the odd wobble, but I think that's to be expected, and to be honest it's a trait of all pg woman regardless.

We have been lucky that everyone has been happy for us. However if someone had voiced to us that they thought it was to soon, I can assure you they would no longer be in our social circle. I'm a big believer in walking a mile in someone else's shoes before you judge. Even if you are unsure about being pg so soon, the last thing you need is judgey people's opinion shoved in your face.

If you would like to talk via email, post your email address and we can talk further.

xx

ILikeToMoveItMoveIt · 08/06/2008 08:43

Oh, and go Emma. If baby Lewis isn't here already, he will be sometime soon.

Another generation of the Shabster generation. Can the country handle it??!!!

lottiejenkins · 08/06/2008 09:16

Hope we hear from Shabs soon.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, [fingers crossed icon]

shabster · 08/06/2008 09:16

Morning girls - i managed a whole hours sleep. Not heard anything yet...will give them another half hour and then ring.

dippymother · 08/06/2008 09:54

FMN - you lucky girl - I also have only had the cocktail! Forgot to add my congratulations in my last post, so congratulations with all my heart on your news. Having something else to concentrate on will definitely help with your emotions and grief over Eris.

Shabs - hope to hear from you soon, am sure everything will be fine, but can understand your wobbles! Thinking about you, Dan and Emma.

Triplets - thanks for update, will be thinking of you on the 17th and hope it all goes well.

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