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Love, like starlight, never dies... Our precious children sparkling in the sky xx

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CazandBelle · 28/06/2011 11:13

"Small was feeling grim and dark. He was playing toss and fling and bang and crash. Break and snap and bash and batter. Small said ?I?m a grim and grumpy little small and nobody loves me at all?. ?Oh Small,? said Large. ?Grumpy or not, I?ll always love you no matter what.?

Small said, ?If I was a grizzly bear would you still love me would you still care?? ?Of course,? said Large ?bear or not, I?ll always love you no matter what.?

Small said ?But if I turned into a bug, would you still love me and give me a hug?? ?Of course,? said Large ?bug or not, I?ll always love you no matter what.?

?No matter what?? said Small, and smiled, ?What if I was a crocodile?? Large said ?I?d hug you close and hold you tight and tuck you up in bed at night?.
?Does love wear out? said Small, ?does it break or bend? Can you fix it, stick it, does it mend?? ?Oh help,? said Large ?I?m not that clever I just know I?ll love you forever?.

Small said ?but what about when you?re dead and gone, would you love me then, does love go on?? Large held Small snug as they looked out at the night, at the moon in the dark and the stars shining bright.

?Small look at the stars ? how they shine and glow, but some of those stars died a long time ago. Still they shine in the evening skies. Love, like starlight, never dies?.

NO MATTER WHAT by Debi Gliori

Missing my beautiful Belle, a year to the day we placed her to bed in her garden. Mummy and Daddy love you, always. To the moon and back xxx

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shabbapinkfrog · 01/07/2011 06:20

Morning girls xx

CheeseandGherkins · 01/07/2011 11:01

Morning all. Sorry I didn't post again last night but I crashed out and just slept, which I needed. Felt so shit this morning when I woke though as I had a message on my phone from my aunt telling me that my cousin's due date is Dec 28-30th, I just cried as Scarlett's funeral was the 29th of Dec and all I could think was that it should be me. I only found out last week that she's pregnant. I'm just sick of pretending that everything's ok and that I'm happy because I'm not. I don't begrudge her being pregnant at all but I just can't stand knowing that it's all going to be happening when our little girl died; all those firsts and I have to deal with someone's baby being born then as well. I can't say this anywhere else and I think I sound like a selfish cow but I'm being honest and I need to say it somewhere. I just couldn't stop sobbing this morning at all. Kids were a few minutes late in for school so I feel bad about that as well. Walked round the shops yesterday and they were filled with babies and pregnant women as usual but we passed one tiny little baby that was asleep and all I could see was Scarlett lying in the midwives arms not sleeping :( Sorry to be so miserable but it's not a good day. Plus I tested this morning (shouldn't have bothered) and it was negative as expected but I had to do it anyway.

Blue We had a hearse for Scarlett but it brought her and the flowers to the cemetary, we all made our own way there, and after the service it carried her down to her final resting place. God I feel so much for you, I don't know how I kept it together on that day, I think through a blur of numbness. Sending you love and strength. I couldn't hold her coffin and nor could dh, just couldn't do it.

spilt (hugs) I know that feeling, everyone being excited about their pregnancy but even now (and I'm not pregnant) all I can think is how I couldn't really actually believe it until I held a live baby in my arms. It's strange to think that even a few days before she died the thought that she could die didn't cross my mind; not really. Never with any real meaning. Now, it's all I can think about and all I can stop myself from saying when people talk about it. If I'm lucky enough to get pregnant again I'm avoiding all classes again, didn't bother with any after my first and I don't think I could now at all.

green my dh also called and told his mum, I texted mine from the room where they scanned us. I remember it all so vivedly. I can't believe I texted her but I had to tell her right away and I just couldn't speak. I was so numb with disbelief and tears but also thinking that I must wake up as it was clearly a dream. I knew something was wrong after 4 or 5 midwives couldn't find a heartbeat and then them ushering us straight up to a room to be scanned with more people in the room. God I couldn't believe it. My dh feels the same, it was his first baby, mine are with my ex husband but I still think he's a dad. We had a lovely poem at Scarlett's funeral which works for a dad as well as a mum I'll post it now:

I thought of you and closed my eyes.
And prayed to God today.
I asked what makes a mother and
I know I heard him say,

A mother has a baby.
This we know is true.
But God, can you be a mother
when your baby's not with you?

Yes, you can, He replied
with confidence in His voice.
I give many women babies.
When they leave is not their choice.

Some I send for a lifetime
and others for a day.
And some I send to feel your womb
but there's no need to stay.

I just don't understand this. God,
I want my baby here.
He took a breath and cleared His throat
and then I saw a tear.

I wish I could show you
what your child is doing today.
If you could see your child smile
with other children and say,

"We go to earth to learn our lessons
of life and love and fear.
My Mommy loved me, Oh so much,
I got to come straight here.

I feel so lucky to have a Mom
who had so much love for me,
I learned my lesson very quickly.
My Mommy set me free.

I miss my Mommy, Oh so much,
but I visit her each day.
When she goes to sleep,
on her pillow's where I lay.

I stroke her hair and kiss her cheek
and whisper in her ear,
'Mommy don't be sad today,
I'm your baby and I'm here.'"

So you see, my dear sweet one,
your children are okay.
Your babies are here in MY home
and this is where they'll stay.

They'll wait for you with ME
until your lesson is through.
And on the day that you come home,
they'll be at the gates for you.

So now you see what makes a Mother?
It's the feeling in your heart.
It's the love you had so much of,
right from the very start.

Though some on earth may not realize you are a Mother,
until their time is done.
They'll be up here with ME one day,
and know you're the best one

Copied and pasted but I changed the "moms" to "mums", works for dads too so you could change those. I really like it.

wool (hugs) for you and your family. I talk about Scarlett, and share photos of her grave when we add things, on facebook too. If people don't like it they can choose to delete me, not look or hide all my posts. I refuse to not talk about her like she didn't exist as she very much did and will always be just as much a part of our lives as my living children.

Caz it took dh until now (almost 7 months) to start feeling it, he's on anti depressants and not coping well at all, he's really bad and has self harmed :( Sending love to you and your dh.

shabs sorry I missed Matt's birthday, I hope his day was perfect for you and massive hugs. You have me on fb xx

ginge 8 weeks...(hugs) hope today is peaceful for you. I'll look you up on fb.

If anyone wants to add me on facebook pm me and I'll give you my name xxx

CheeseandGherkins · 01/07/2011 11:04

ginge tried to find you on fb but there are too many! I can pm you mine if you want?

gingegirl · 01/07/2011 16:48

Yeah that's fine just pm me cheese, and anyone else on fb! Not sure if my profile is private maybe that's how you can't find me!

CazandBelle · 01/07/2011 18:14

Feeling really irritable and impatient tonight. Everything and everyone is annoying me somehow.

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gingegirl · 01/07/2011 19:36

I get that a lot caz!!! Sometimes you just need space to be on your own!!!

peterpansmum · 01/07/2011 21:53

Caz, sadly this is totally normal xx

I have had a shit day. Last day of our school term and also graduation day at the adjoining nursery at school. Bittersweet - trying to reconcile the excitement of DS1 and the upcoming holidays with watching all Gregor's peers arrive all dressed up ready to party. I went for a walk today and wrote a poem which I've included in my blog tonight - I've never written a poem so if any of you read it please tell me what you think.

We then did have a fun afternoon out at the park with friends. I am very apprehensive about the start of the summer holidays. On the one hand I'm determined to enjoy the holidays with ds1 but on the other hand family time just makes me feel gregor's loss even more.

shabbapinkfrog · 02/07/2011 07:41

Morning girls xx

frasersmummy · 02/07/2011 08:22

morning girls

anotehr bittersweet moment as we head off to the lake district for a fortnight with our youngest

wont be around for the next few weeks ladies

take care of yourself

shabbapinkfrog · 02/07/2011 08:33

Have a good time FM - if you see signs that say "Bolton" on your way there or back come and have a brew with me. Lake District is about an hours drive from me. Just to let you know the sun is shining brightly here - for the time being Smile

CheeseandGherkins · 02/07/2011 08:55

Morning. Still not feeling good at all. All the things I posted still going round in my head and bothering me. Hope you all have a good weekend xx

shabbapinkfrog · 03/07/2011 10:00

Morning girls xx

lavandes · 03/07/2011 22:11

Peeping round, is everyone as ok as they can be xx

shabbapinkfrog · 03/07/2011 22:19

Im fine Lavendes - hope you are love xxx

shabbapinkfrog · 04/07/2011 06:28

Morning girls xx

deemented · 04/07/2011 07:19

Morning folks.

Just wanted to tell you all that although i don't post often, or as often as i shoul, i do lurk and think of you lots.

Sending each and every one of you much love x

shabbapinkfrog · 04/07/2011 07:21

Morning Dee - good to see you xxxx

Bluetinkerbell · 04/07/2011 11:28

Morning all! Got back late last night from my sister's hen do! It was a lovely weekend! Some difficult moment but I coped! (thanks to Wine well lots of it to be honest Wink ) now it's counting down to Friday when we drive back to Belgium for the wedding on Saturday! Hope the week goes quick!

much love to everyone! x

TooImmature2BMum · 04/07/2011 13:44

Just had the following conversation with the consultant:

Procedures have been changed in Triage so that if someone presents with proteinuria (like me!) they will be given more tests and referred to a doctor and more monitoring to make sure it's not pre-eclampsia. You should have had this. Oh wait, but MW1 didn't bother to follow up on the protein in your urine (on the Thursday), and MW2 didn't even bother to do a urine sample (on the Saturday. Thea died sometime between that examination and the next one 3 hours later).

The MW didn't think you were in labour. Despite the fact that I had been having regular contractions coming slowly down to every 2 or 3 minutes for the last 5 or 6 hours, and had phoned Triage 3 times before coming in, and was 41+2 and 2 cm dilated. This clearly pissed off the consultant - she didn't think there was any doubt I had been in labour.

You should have had intermittent monitoring of Thea's heartbeat every 15 minutes but you didn't, because you 'weren't in labour'.

Yes, okay, so they still might not have been able to save her, or they might have saved her but with brain damage from lack of oxygen, but then again she might have been completely okay if they had done an EMCS fast enough! Heaps of people have stories about how their babies were in distress so they had to have a crash section and the babies spent some time in SCU but were absolutely fine in the long run!

I don't know what to do with this information. The consultant clearly thought my care had been terrible - she used the phrase 'sub-optimal' the first time I saw her - and there has clearly been some ass-kicking in Triage to make damn sure the MWs take every precaution in the future, but none of it changes the fact that Thea died, and died in their hospital, and they might have been able to save her - they could have tried, at least - and they didn't do anything.

Bluetinkerbell · 04/07/2011 14:05

oooh Tool that must be so difficult to cope with! Thinking of you!

TooImmature2BMum · 04/07/2011 14:09

Thanks Blue. Sorry, needed to rant.

greenzebra · 04/07/2011 15:59

tooimm thats awful to hear and try to digest. You rant away.

Im sure when mine come back I will want a rant too.

Bluetinkerbell · 04/07/2011 16:20

Same here... I'm so scared of what might come back, of what has gone wrong. Maybe it would be easier to cope if they couldn't find anything?
Two weeks today, sometimes it seems much longer ago, and then it feels like it was only yesterday!

CheeseandGherkins · 04/07/2011 16:41

TooImmature That must be so hard for you, you must be reeling right now with all that to think on (hugs)

With Scarlett's there was a lot of information and that it could have been a few different things but they suspect the main reason was a cord accident, they really just can't say for sure though. Not knowing why is hard.

gingegirl · 04/07/2011 18:08

Tooimm I'm so sorry to hear that, it just makes me so angry!! Angry We put our trust in the medics and half of them haven't a clue!!! We have actually put a complaint in to the hospital about Oliver!! He was 2 years old with a heart condition and was never scanned properly until a week before he died by which time it was too late to do anything for him!!!
Sometimes I think we should complain about things, it's the only way to get things done it may not bring our babies back but you may get comfort from it!!! ((()))) hugs to you!!
Xxx

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