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childrens behaviour - is there such a thing as just a naughty child - why does everything have to be given a medical name?

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beatty · 22/09/2006 10:43

In society in the UK these days I think that some unacceptable behaviours in children are too quickly given a medical name. Why can't people just say that some children are naughty and need to be taught discipline rather than giving the a disorder or medical name to hide behind which then makes the behaviour more acceptable. "oh well yes the reason he behaved like that is because he suffers with X". "oh well that ok then bring on some treatment". this costs the NHS thousands where just a bit of discipline and time spent with children would do wonders. Other countries in Europe have so many fewer "behavioural problems" than here. Why is that?
I have just seen a programme this morning where children who don't know right from wrong after the age of about 3 years old has now been given a medical name...utter tosh...just parents/guardians that are probably just too lazy to bother or even badly behaved themselves (yes discipline does beginat home).

I do understand about many behavioural problems as I am a teacher and see the genuine ones every day but everything is now being given a name. When will people understand that there are naughty children out there and that's just what they are - is not medical problem!!

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Saturn74 · 22/09/2006 22:22

I would take great offence at the suggestion that a child who had been diagnosed with special needs eg: autistic, was actually misdiagnosed.

Especially if that child were mine.

The process to get a diagnosis is long and tedious, as has been posted previously. It is not the decision of one person, but of many.

This point has been made numerous times, yet the same questions keep being asked.

I don't see the point in continually stating the opposite when it is clearly so upsetting to others.

cat64 · 22/09/2006 22:23

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Jalexandra · 22/09/2006 22:24

I think think this is one of those subjects where if you haven't personally experienced having a child with SN you really don't have a right to opinion about it.

sorrell · 22/09/2006 22:25

You are a Senco? And people wonder why children with special needs often fail in mainstream schools. here is your answer.

kittywits · 22/09/2006 22:26

Obviously my reasons for asking the same questions have been misinterpreted. I apologise for any offence that I have caused to any of you here. I didn't ever imply that any of you had childen who had been misdiagnosed. I say this again just to be sure that that is understood now.

Jalexandra · 22/09/2006 22:27

Cat64, do you think any parent actually WANTS their kids to be diagnosed with a disorder?

sorrell · 22/09/2006 22:28

Truly Kittywits, just be grateful. Grateful that you don't walk home from school most days trying to hold back the tears in front of your children. Grateful that you don't get those looks from your so-called friends. Grateful that a party invitation isn't simultaneously manna from heaven and a source of huge anxiety. Grateful that you don't dread your child growing up.

Jimjams2 · 22/09/2006 22:28

I love the way "claim DLA" always comes into these little rants.

Hmm let me see £55 a week for a child who will never live independently and require 24 hour care for the rest of his life. That sounds like a good deal!

Socci · 22/09/2006 22:28

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Socci · 22/09/2006 22:29

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kittywits · 22/09/2006 22:29

Thankyou cat, but I feel your words will not be listened to. Yes I do feel a bit ganged up on, but the fact that I have hung around for so long shows that I am interested in a disussion not in attacking and accusing, but now I'm going to bed.

sorrell · 22/09/2006 22:30

How on earth can you feel sorry for yourself on this thread of all threads?

kittywits · 22/09/2006 22:31

Who is it that feels sorry for themselves?

Jimjams2 · 22/09/2006 22:31

Never mind that we've spent considerably more than we've ever receieved in DLA paying for basic services for our son (SALT, OT, PECS courses and whilst he was in mainstream education as he was receiving none at school). All basic treatment and services that should have provided.

misdee · 22/09/2006 22:31

dl f*cking a.

dont get me started

Socci · 22/09/2006 22:31

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Jimjams2 · 22/09/2006 22:32

oh kittywits you really are clueless. People feel angry - not sorry for themselves.

Socci · 22/09/2006 22:34

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Jimjams2 · 22/09/2006 22:34

the senco at ds1's school was prtetty clueless as well. I had to keep ringing the SALT, to ring her, to correct her IEP's.

cat64 · 22/09/2006 22:34

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kittywits · 22/09/2006 22:38

No, sorrel said how could feel sorry for youself, not angry, sorry.

Jimjams2 · 22/09/2006 22:39

KW- she asked you how you could feel sorry for yourself. She feels something close to anger I would imagine.

Jimjams2 · 22/09/2006 22:40

soapbox next time I ignore your advice hit me round the head with a hammer or something.

Jalexandra · 22/09/2006 22:40

cat64, it is such a highly personal subject. Like I said before, unless you have directly dealt with it yourself I don't think you can have any idea about what it is like to care for a SN child.

kittywits · 22/09/2006 22:41

Thankyou cat, I have such an inability to write what I would like at the moment, tiredness I guess. You hdon't seem able to, it's very frustating. Then I think 'why didn't I say that'?