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Why do you smack your child/nnot smack your child?

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NorthernGobshite · 20/02/2011 15:56

I am interested because my parents have just spent weekend visiting us and dd (6) chose this weekend to be tired, grumpy and generally hard work.

My parents spent all weekend telling me that if we smacked her she would behave, if we don't smack her she will grow up to be uncontrollable etc etc, blah blah Angry

We absolutely do not believe in smacking and I am interested why you do/don't smack.

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dizzyblonde · 20/02/2011 17:23

I don't regret it because I have wonderful children who are not fazed in the slightest by it(and it is something we have discussed at length). If you think I have children who were/are terrified of me you couldn't be more wrong.They are articulate confident teenagers who are a pleasure to be with.

activate · 20/02/2011 17:27

haven't smacked any of my kids past the age of about 5

smacking was for danger situations and also if I'm honest the moments of pure irritatation that pushed me past the limit if I'm honest

don't regret it

hasn't harmed them any

BooyFuckingHoo · 20/02/2011 17:32

my mum still justifies her loss of control and smacking and even blames me for it. it has harmed me, despite what she wants to believe.

Georgimama · 20/02/2011 17:37

There is a big difference between a not very hard smack on the bottom of an intractable toddler who is in the process of doing something stupidly dangerous or so far gone in a tantrum that they cannot be reasoned with, and some of the abuse described by posters on this thread. One does not inevitably lead to the other.

reallytired · 20/02/2011 18:25

Georgimama, children often do not see the difference between a not very hard smack on the bottom and full blown violent hitting.

Violence does not nothing but teach violence by example. There are better and more effective ways of dealing with a child.

A child who has got into a dangerous situation, but is too young to be reasoned with probably won't link being assulted hurt by an adult to the dangerous situation.

Natural consequences are far better. My dd tries to run into the road, I put on the baby reins. It keeps her safe without me assulting her.

Teaandcakeplease · 20/02/2011 18:32

My Dad is 69 and my mum is 65 and they do almost exactly the same as your parents. Telling me they'll be tearaways if I do not smack them etc. I've found it very hard, I even did a thread in AIBU a while ago. I now try to see my parents less as it's easier.

taintedpaint · 20/02/2011 18:35

I don't smack and never will. Main reason being that I don't believe in physically assaulting my children like my father physically assaulted me. But also, because it achieves nothing. I don't want my children to fear me, that is not respect and I will not put them through it.

Georgimama · 20/02/2011 18:50

Threads like this are always very emotive - well, in one direction they are anyway. Using words like "violence" to describe a light smack, for example. My son does not fear me, I assure you.

BertieBotts · 20/02/2011 19:07

Hmm. I'm sure my mum would have said that we didn't fear her - and if she ever smacked us it wasn't hard and it was infrequent. But just the knowledge that she could did put a degree of fear into our relationship. I didn't walk around cowering when she entered a room or flinching at her every move but even now I wouldn't challenge something she said and I find it hard to challenge anyone now - which includes anyone I perceive as an "authority" figure, like HVs etc, but also people in general that I don't know well, ie I don't know how they react, or someone I do know who I have seen react aggressively or even just assertively to anyone else. So in short, I'm a pushover. It might have been to do with that or it might just be my personality, I don't know, I do know that I'm afraid to speak my mind in situations where I shouldn't be.

spidookly · 20/02/2011 19:18

I don't smack because it feels wrong.

I don't think smacking is abuse, but it just doesn't sit right with me.

When I asked DH whether he thought it was OK to smack he said "how can you teach right and wrong to your child if you hit them?". Hardly earth-shattering, but it made sense to me.

LittleMumSmall · 20/02/2011 19:21

I don't want to smack because I was smacked. A rather hefty smacking from my dad is one of my earliest memories and it will never go away.

I believe it doesn't make a difference to behaviour but can make children scared of their parents, and they are the very people they need to trust all their lives. Having said that, I don't yet know if there will be a situation in the future where I might do it without thinking (DS only 16 months, haven't reached the terrible twos yet!) if there was a life-threatening situation like running into a road etc.

QuickLookBusy · 20/02/2011 19:23

I think if smacking worked you would only ever have to ever smack them once, because the child "would have learned their lesson".

As most people smack their child more than once, it obviously doesnt work.

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QuickLookBusy · 20/02/2011 19:25

Also Northern, I would just ignore your parents comments. She is your DD and you are entitled to bring her up however you like!

asdx2 · 20/02/2011 19:33

I haven't smacked because there has never been an occasion when a better alternative was available. So five children later, two with autism nothing any of them have done wasn't better addressed by other methods.
Rarely used time out, lots of reasoning and rewarding the good, redirecting and distracting from the bad has worked for us.

asdx2 · 20/02/2011 19:35
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BertieBotts · 20/02/2011 19:37

QLB, I think that's a bit of a non argument. Do you really know of any discipline method that you use once, and it works forever?

NorthernGobshite · 20/02/2011 19:38

booy, exactly, I want my daughter to lve and respect me NOT fear me. I feared my dad all the way through my childhood and well into adulthood.

The criticism is water off a ducks back now tbh. We only see them 3 -4 times a year which is quite enough and means any potential damage to dd is minimised.

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spidookly · 20/02/2011 19:41

The thing is though that I absolutely do use my size and strength advantage against DD1 if she is very naughty, e.g. to remove her from a situation where she has hit, or us about to hit, another child.

I will pick her up and move her to another room totally against her will. And I'll be cross when I do it.

When she has tantrums I just sit down next to her and look bored and ask her periodically if she's finished. Then when she's done we have a cuddle. But if she hurts other children I will remove her, and that seems as much a kind of violence as a light smack on the bum. But I would never do the latter.

And yet I do the latter sometimes when I play her like an orchestra (bottom = bass drum, fingers = bells etc.). So it's not the physical act of smacking that feels wrong. In play I tap her bottom just as hard as I imagine someone who uses smacking would. It doesn't hurt her, she thinks it's hilarious.

But if I did it to chastise her then it would be physical touch to punish, and that feels like it would humiliate her.

The relationship you have with your children is very physically intimate - you cuddle them, you change their nappy, you put cream on their rashes, you tickle them -a parent's touch should always be kind I think.

Their little bodies that I made inside mine and nourish/ed with my milk - the thought of physically hurting them is viscerally wrong.

I know I'm far from alone in feeling that physical pain if they hurt themselves, particularly if it was through my fault. I will never forget the how I felt the day DD1 rolled off the bed

spidookly · 20/02/2011 19:44

Well by that logic QuickLook, nothing works.

NorthernGobshite · 20/02/2011 19:44

quicklook, I do ignore vast majority of time, but this weekend it got to me. I think because of dd hearing the comments. And because I know we have to go and stay with them at Easter for a family event. Me and dh have agreed we will only go for weekend now, instead of planned week. My dh gets fed up of being contradicted by them constantly too.

Interestingly, since they left at lunchtime she has been impecably behaved, helpful, relaxed....speaks volumes.

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findingthepath · 20/02/2011 19:46

I have a 2 year old and i think it would not make much difference if i smacked him one bit, it would just make him cry. I do not see the point in it.

Also how can you teach a child not to smack or hit other's when you as a mum are hitting him.

I have found taking away a toy that he is throwing or turning the TV off or not letting him have grapes and only banana for a treat works so much better than causing my son pain.

NorthernGobshite · 20/02/2011 19:51

findingthepath, I find it very upsetting when I see mothers smacking their children really hard and with each whack saying "we (whack) don't (whack) hit (whack) other (whack) people". How do they not see the sickening irony?

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QuickLookBusy · 20/02/2011 19:54

Yes I know that "Spook and Bertie" but people often say "I smack because it works" or "It teaches them a lesson"

It clearly doesn't.

milkyway2007 · 20/02/2011 19:55

My mum smacked me - on the face, on the back etc when I didn't listen. I had a very turbulent relationship with my mother as I grew up. Like someone mentioned - I feared my mum, rather than respect her and I also resented her. Unfortunately, she died when I was 17 and I never got the chance to see how our relationship would have changed.

My father never lifted his finger on me ever in my life. But when I compare the relationship I had with my Dad at aged 17 - there was a big difference. I loved my Dad and respected him, in that I never wanted to see him unhappy - so I would do things for him to make him feel happy.

You must earn your child's respect - and hitting really doesn't get you anywhere. I had a very hard time with my daughter in her terrible 2's and realised I was going down the same path my mum went down with me...I changed myself within a day, and immediately noticed a change in my DD's behaviour. Now, when she's doing something naughty, or doesn't listen, I only say one thing "You're making mummmy sad and angry, so please stop that", and she understands immediately.

One thing my Dad always says to me: smacking just makes a child rebellious and there comes a stage where it won't work anymore and that makes the child even more naughty. My Dad is 74, and I wish he had taught my mum this when I was younger.