Enola for DD?

[scarletm]

me and DH watched Enola Holmes recently with his nieces and would love the same name for DD. We do thinks it's a little different though! Any thoughts??

@Redcups64

32 and never heard of enola gay before this thread.

I like the name and would choose it.

Even after this thread??

Redcups64

32 and never heard of enola gay before this thread.

I like the name and would choose it.

So after 17 pages of 99% appalled reaction over the connotations of the name you would seriously still choose it??

I totally agree that we should be much more worried about what is happening in the world right now than what happened in the past. That is self evident. However, I think the two are indivisible.

I agree - on Holocaust Memorial Day (27th January) I always emphasise why and how the Holocaust is a contemporary issue, and how "mini" holocausts are happening all over the world at this very moment.

A poster upthread commented how unbelievable how brutal to each other people can be, and I totally agree. If our governments put a tenth of the money and scientific expertise into solving the climate crisis, and world hunger as they put into developing weapons - including biological weapons, then we would be in a much better place environmentally, socially and personally.

You think it is a good idea to name a child after the plane that dropped the atomic bomb, @Redcups64?

A bit late to the party but I know an Enola. Her dad specifically named her after the plane. As an adult she is mortified. Interestingly she has not chosen to change her name or use her mn instead.

Its a difficult one as I believe in "reclaiming" some of the names people have mentioned in the hope that these children grow up to give more positive associations to those names (no matter how small). I dont know if I could do it myself though.

That idea of "reclaiming" is an interesting now Snowdrops - like you, though, I would'nt be the one to make that move.

This is the best baby names thread I've ever read. I've learnt a lot this morning. So, don't call a child Enola, enola, or Leopold.

This is why some countries have a list on like 50 names you're allowed to use!

I know a 11yr old Enola and I think of ebola or granola

Enola , why not, I would not be surprised you will the the only one to name your child after a movie.

I like how her name is spelled Alone in backward (I seen the movie :)

blueberrypie0112 have you read any of the thread? Any of it at all?

@giletrouge

blueberrypie0112 have you read any of the thread? Any of it at all?

You mean about the name of a plane? Or getting mixed up with Ebola? Yes I read it, but if this a popular show, she probably won’t be the only one to name her baby enola and so they will associate it with the movie than anything else.

BUT I am not sure how popular it is.

On the other hand, become of the bombing i wouldn’t use it

@blueberrypie0112

On the other hand, become of the bombing i wouldn’t use it

Because, not become.

I have to admit I didn’t know it was THE plane that killed almost over a million people with one atomic bomb. I thought it one of the war world II plane

I wouldn’t even consider it.
I also thought the film was pants.

(I got the million because the the affect of radiation)

Blueberrypie, I would quit while you are ahead(ish).

I fell asleep in that film. The main girl was quite annoying tbh. That and the fact the name is linked with the cruel death of thousands of people would put me right off It personally.

@sashh I've now ordered a couple of history books about the 2nd World War. I only have memoirs, which say that FatMan was dropped at about 11am on 9 August. Wikipedia says the Russians invaded Manchuria the same day. The Japanese agreed to Potsdam Declaration on August 15th. Do you have different sources?

The prisoners of war in Nagasaki were digging their own grave-pit when the bomb was dropped on Hiroshima on 6 August. At the same time, Nagasaki was firebombed, and the camp was damaged, so the guards had the prisoners stop digging their mass grave-pit and clean up the mess. That's what they were doing 3 days later when they saw Bockskar and another plane fly over. The air raid sirens were sounded, then the planes flew off. When the prisoners saw the planes come back at 11, they ran into the bunkers, but the Japanese didn't sound the air raid sirens, apparently thinking they were on a recconnaisance mission. So most of the prisoners survived although everyone above ground in the camp was killed.

SeanCailleach

I will admit most of my information is second hand. My carer was taking a Japanese course with a uni in Sweden and did a project on the Hibakusha, I proof read it for him and we had a lot of discussions.

He's been to Japan a few times and visited the peace garden.

Which books have you ordered? There is the saying that history is written by the victors so I would include at least one Japanese author.

@SeanCailleach

This gives short versions of various arguments about the bombs.

www.historyextra.com/period/second-world-war/atomic-bomb-hiroshima-nagasaki-justified-us-debate-bombs-death-toll-japan-how-many-died-nuclear/

Thanks @sashh
I've ordered the DVD "All That Remains " and "The Bells of Nagasaki" which I read at school
Also
Antony Beevor "The Second World War"
"The Second World Wars" by Victor Davis Hanson
I'm hunting a UK region copy of the 1995 film "Hiroshima" by Kurahara.

For anyone catching up with this thread, it is fair to say the spelling Enola would trigger distressing thoughts due to it being a rare name used for the Hiroshima bomber.
The name is originally from the Irish Gaelic language name Fhionnuala which means "fair shoulders". Noone except an Old Irish geek would spot the connexion from the spelling although they sound alike, give or take the F, and there are lots of wonderful Fionnuala role models.
Other uncontroversial alternatives would be:

Leona
Elyona
Yola
Lola
Wynona
Solo
Ysola
Onora

'some obscure 80s song'

Wasn't really that obscure - it was an international hit and sold more than 5 million copies. Did you see how many posters here were able to instantly sing the song as soon as the thread name popped up? I'm one of them.

I was recommending the film to someone and it autocorrected to Ebola. I wouldn't ...

it's horrid ... Sorry + there will be a trend of enolas born in the next 18months so it will date very quickly ..xxx congratulations on your pregnancy x