Name for a snow baby

[BlackberryandNettle]

Any ideas for a baby girl born in this snow/cold?

"No one really does give a shit how anyone pronounces their own name, regardless of where it came from originally."

I think they do, you know.
They may be interested in names/history/heritage/religion or names in general, just like you are if you've got the time to come on to this thread.

But why?!!... Why does anyone care whether someone is pronouncing their own child’s (or their own) name wrong?
Fair enough if they’re pronouncing your name your child’s name wrong.

And I understand that people do study and are interested in names and history origin etc....

But who cares about how some individual actually pronounces their own name with slight differences?

I meant, so what if you say ayra instead of eyra?

Thanks Gwenhwyfar. I am with you on Dylan. I know dozens of them. All of them say it as Dull-an not Dill-un.

I also know a Ceinwen who says it as Cane-wun. It seems weird as it's such an old fashioned name but quite nice but it's horrible the way she says it. It makes me think yeah, he killed his brother.

Apologies if you think that I'm talking to you like an idiot. I do get wound up by mangled names. Rhian pronounced Ree-Anne is quite popular now and it makes me cringe. Rhian said properly is such a nice name (but like Dylan is an over 50 yr old's name).

"so what if you say ayra instead of eyra?"

If you take a name from another language and don't bother to pronounce it properly, it's rude and disrespectful, particularly if we're talking about languages with a colonial relationship.

Eira or Eirlys

No it’s not gwen.... you of all people, being Welsh should have grown a thicker skin over this.

The amount of times I hear English tourists pronouncing place names wrong! It’s not disrespectful, or rude.

They’re just ignorant and stupid. Same if they name their dc something they can’t pronounce.

I just can’t get worked up about it.

"They’re just ignorant and stupid. Same if they name their dc something they can’t pronounce."

So you agree it's ignorant and stupid then. Quite strong words for something you think is fine.

And what does 'you of all people' mean?

You of all people.... as in being Welsh. Like I stated afterwards.
Every Welsh speaker who lives in Wales has heard a place name being pronounced wrong. You learn to let it go and not get worked up about it.

If I hear someone say Betsy Coe Ed I don’t give a shit. I don’t find it disrespectful, I just think they’re ignorant and stupid. Same if I hear someone call their child a Welsh name but pronounce it wrong.

"If I hear someone say Betsy Coe Ed I don’t give a shit. I don’t find it disrespectful, I just think they’re ignorant and stupid. "

Thinking people are ignorant and stupid isn't really not giving a shit.

There's a difference between someone who's a casual visitor doing that and someone who's living there.

My dc have a 'foreign' surname . It is not pronounced the same way here are it is by native speakers because we do not use those sounds . I don't see that as being ignorant or stupid.

I know someone who pronounces Pencoed Pen-Co-Ed. She was born and bred there. Makes me wince!

gwen

I take your point in the phonetics and i agree, but not everyone can read the phonetic alphabet so its difficult.
I also accept the Hei/Hai v hey/hay thing where we may be talking at cross purposes. however, what mike is telling me i'm 'pronouncing incorrectly' is the ei in eifion/eiry. which there ARE variations of. neither of which are wrong. there is no, 'standard' in welsh as such as the north/south language varies so greatly in lots of ways.

re: Seren. The people I know from the mid/north areas tend to pronounce the first vowel as an open eh (like in emma) where as we southerners are more likely to say an elongated closed back vowel in a way that is impossible to type unless we use phonetics!

mike's insistence that 'welsh speakers' wouldn't use certain names for instance is just homogenising us, many welsh speakers have different opinions. it may not be meant to be so bullish, but it certainly comes across that way. I'm absolutely not 'mangling' anything.

3littlebadgers Kardelen is lovely.

Eirlys is beautiful

Flakey well maybe not haha, but personally I don't think it matters what the weather was like when the child was born

Alaska is pretty cool...... haha excuse the pun

Nanouk!

Nanook, even.