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Support thread for women who are pregnant or TTC after a termination for abnormalities 3

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LittlePoot · 12/01/2011 13:28

So, New Year, New Thread. And the next set of New Babies are arriving! I hope they prove that there can be light at the end of the very dark tunnel we have all had to come through and I hope there are many more babies to come. In the meantime, we're here, as ever, with supportive words, virtual hands to hold and multiple fingers to cross to help everyone through these nerve wracking waits and scans. A more lovely group of ladies you could not wish to find. xxx

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NumptyMum · 09/10/2011 16:59

Oh Mishtabel, surely that situation is every parent's nightmare (well, apart from all the other nightmare's we fear). Kittens has said everything that I would say, probably better than I would say it. Teenage girls are frightening, I'm so glad I have no reason to fear other people in my safe mid-life stage and it's one of the fears I have of DS going to school is that it is one place you CANNOT avoid others you'd prefer not to see/meet. I really hope your DD can find some support from those who should be giving it (the school, showing some leadership...? community police?) but if not, that she finds strength from inside to face this. And perhaps learn Karate (thinks fondly of Karate Kid). Voice off here as often as you like! xx

manitz · 09/10/2011 20:48

hi, just a quicky to let you know that sacha is out and seems fine. I'm a little paranoid but i hink it will all be ok. He's putting on weight.

Otherwise Cherry I'm sorry to hear about your fire, that is really stressful and such terrible timing. Will your insurance not cover accommodation for you? My friend had a house fire and insurance covered alternative accommodation as well as redecorating. Not suggesting you will have problems at your mums but it might be more 'yours' for the time being and may give you more space when the baby arrives.

Mishtabel. I am really sorry to hear about your dd, teenage years are such a stress and like numpty I'm so glad I'm not that age again and don't have to deal with unpleasant bullies. Hopefully even if you can't charge (which seems very strange) this will count as one of her 3 cautions if she does this to anyone else. I see this thread as a general support thread even if we all came together because of a particular experience it doesn't stop it being a supportive thread for all issues in our lives.

Kittens I'm really glad you are able to enjoy this time with your mum, am thinking of you at the moment. x

ghislaine · 10/10/2011 11:42

Mishatabel, I am so sorry for your poor DD's experience. What awful people. And I can't believe that the police are basically willing to sit back and let her have another couple of goes at your daughter before they will take any real action. This is clearly a serious criminal assault. Can you go to a CAB or similar to speak to a criminal lawyer for some advice? I think you should also contact the school. Even if your DD is no longer there, I would hope that the school would do something about this girl.

Cherry, that is awful about the fire. My parents had a flood in their house a few years ago and it really knocked them for six. The insurance co paid for them to rent elsewhere for about six months before they could move back in. Is that a possibility for you? I hope you get on well with your parents - I would last only a few weeks at mine, pregnant or not!

Manitz - great news about Sacha, I'm sure he'll continue to thrive. And good wishes to Sienna, Miles, Jacob (both of them!) Elliott and all our thread babies.

Kittens, I'm thinking of you too, this must be such a bittersweet time for you.

Just also wanted to shout out to all the lurkers and other posters too - Helenlouisy, Louzie, darlingred, stormbird, sarahmia, and mimsy.

Mishtabel · 10/10/2011 11:47

Thank you so much ladies for your kind words and thoughts regarding DD. I had tears in my eyes reading them. And Kittens, you're right, we are friends even though we haven't met. Over the past couple of years, I have felt so supported by you lot, even though you have your own stuff going on, which is especially true in your case Kittens. That's what makes a friend in my eyes.

I ran by the idea of a personal alarm by DD. Response: 'Oh mum, shame'. Karate then? 'NOOO!' Why? 'It's stupid!' Okaaay..
Police called and said the girl hasn't had any cautions, so this will count as her first. Pathetic, seeing as how she has assaulted at least two other people within the past few weeks. Trouble is, everyone is too scared of her and her vast amount of cousins who who seem to love a bit of trouble.

Am supposed to be getting a copy of the video tomorrow, so I'll be making sure I show that to police so they know just how one-sided and vicious the assault was (which by all accounts it was). As for the mother, apparently she was shocked and is extremely upset with her daughter, so either she's lying about that, or the people that said they saw and heard her were lying. Who knows.

Numpty, I actually took DD out of school due in part to threats of violence by this girl.
She is very popular (partly due to fear-factor I think) and pulls all the strings of year 8. Even DD's 'best friend' dumped her, and the mother rang me to explain that her DD has to look after herself first - if she hangs out with my DD "she'll end up being bashed".

Oh, I could go on and on. Even 16yr old DD is stressing me out as it's the first time she has a boyfriend with a car. My heart is in my throat each time I wave them off as they go for a drive.
Give me the baby/toddler years any day. So much more control over what they do, where they go, who they see.

I've had a peek at the 'teenage' board. Although I'd be reluctant to post, I think it will come in very handy just to lurk there a bit. A lot of the parents there seem very laid back, and have dealt with it all before, which is reassuring, as I feel with my teens like I did as a first time new mum - that I have no idea if what I'm doing is right.

Anyway, didn't mean to go on so long again. Thank you all again so much xx

And Manitz I'm so so glad you have Sacha home at last. I think being paranoid following a stint in NICU etc is a natural reaction. Having a team of experts caring for your baby, then all of a sudden you're it, it's scary. Hopefully you'll feel better about it with each passing day. Hugs for little Sacha xx

Mishtabel · 10/10/2011 11:56

X-post with you Ghislaine :) Not sure what CAB stands for, but yes, I suppose I could/should take it up with someone here if I get no satisfaction with the police. And yes, might also call the school tomorrow, as they were the ones tellingme when I said I wanted to take DD out of school, that "these threats are just all talk". Thanks for that xx

ghislaine · 10/10/2011 13:34

CAB = Citizens' Advice Bureau. Sorry, not sure what the Australian equivalent is, but there must be one. That, or a free legal advice centre. These are often attached to university law schools - run by students with volunteer solicitors.

Cherrybug · 11/10/2011 13:48

Hi all, thanks for your kind words. No further forward housewise really. Have seen a number of different surveyors etc in the last week and I think they are all awaiting authorisation from insurance company before anything can actually happen in terms of restoration work.

We're staying at DPs parents house not with my mum (my mum lives over 100 miles away). I would have gone and stayed for a week with my mum if I could but am too close to due date really to risk going away. I spoke to DP about renting somewhere paid for by insurance but he isn't keen as he thinks it would be more upheaval and at least here we have some help with DD. Plus it's close to her nursery etc. I do agree with him even though I miss my own space so feel we just have to get on with it really. Sometimes I'm ok, taking it day by day and other times I feel completely unable to cope. I think hormones and Leilas fast approaching anniversary doesn't help. And of course am constantly worried about this baby and if all will be well. I also feel so sad that all my plans for preparing DD for the baby's arrival and the early days of having a newborn getting settled in our home are not likely to happen now. Sad

Sorry to hear about your DD Mishtabel. That's just so horrible for her and for you. I hate to hear of bullying, it's such a horrible thing to hear of someone so nasty deliberately harming another person. I suppose in the long term there is some consolation that this girl will likely end up unhappy and probably dysfunctional whereas your DD will be a kind resilient person. But I know it doesn't help at the moment.

Great to hear Sasha is at home Manitz - hope he's settling into the family well and starting to thrive.

Hope all well with you Ghislaine and the 2nd tri is going well. Same for MrsBigz & MyAngelAva.

Hi to everyone else!

NumptyMum · 11/10/2011 14:27

Cherry you sound remarkably resiliant about your situation; I guess that's all you can be but I hope you can build some kind of cocoon around yourself despite not being in your own space for the arrival of your new baby. I hope your DD is feeling a bit more settled now, too... and hooray for baby Sacha gaining weight! I hope he continues to thrive.

mrsbigz · 11/10/2011 21:56

hey ladies - sorry this is going to be a quickish post, so will come back for proper personals later (more likely tomorrow or the next day!!)

Cherry, i'm SO sorry to hear about the fire - i did actually read it when you first posted, but just haven't had the time to sit and reply, so i'm sorry for that too. I hope that the time at your ILs passes quickly for you and that you are able to get back home as soon as possible. it's horrible when your plans for a new little one don't go the way you thought they would - and being in someone else's house rather than your own is definitely up there!! i remember feeling really really cheated when my ds2 was born so early......cheated out of the early bonding (as he was in an incubator for 4 weeks) and cheated too out of the final 9 weeks of pregnancy. but when your LO is born, you really won't mind where you are as long as they are healthy, and a year or so down the line it won't seem so important as it feels now (to a nearly full term pregnant woman!!). sending you many hugs though, it must have been a horrible thing to go through xxx

Manitz - YAY!!!!!!!!!!! Am so glad that Sacha is back home with his family where he belongs and is doing so well, been thinking about you a lot and hoping that he'd be dischared soon x

Mishtabel - WOW - some people really amaze me as to how cruel they can be!?! I'm so sorry that your DD (and of course you!) have had to go through this experience. Your DD sounds like a very strong, mature and sensible young lady and you must be very proud of her for how she's handled the situation (although obviously wishing it had never happened at all). is your husband back yet - it must have been doubly hard with him away. And the girls mother???? honestly, some people.......one word for the pair of them - KARMA! one day the tables will turn. until then sending both you and your DD lots of love

hello to everyone else - Cherry you are the next to have a baby aren't you??? then who's next? i totally lose track on here!

and as for me.....well i had drama galore yesterday having got past Eve's milestone of 17wks (Sunday) yesterday I spent the afternoon in A&E :( - i woke up at 4:30 and couldn't pee - but this has happened every morning the past week and usually rights itself by when i wake at about 6:30. yesterday by 11:30 still hadn't peed, and was in complete agony - bladder was so tender and painful. went to doctors who referred me straight to the hospital.......A&E who then referred me up to Gynae. registrar cathetarised me to relieve the pressure on my bladder (and boy was it a HUGE relief). then sent me for a scan to check on baby - who thankfully seemed quite nonplussed by the whole situation....everything looked good and still measuring on track.
then registrar returned, said he'd been speaking to my consultant, and because of my prolapse, she had advised i had a pessary ring inserted. crap - this thing was the size of a donut.......i have no idea how he got it up there?!?!!! frikking hurt as well, although now, although i can 'feel' it, it's not tooo bad. and thankfully have been able to do a couple of mini pees this evening.
so they either think the pee thing was caused by the prolapse OR because I have a retroverted uterus OR a combination of both. if it's the uterus, then it should right itself in a week or so when it 'pops' out of my pelvis into my belly (apparently if retroverted this can take a little longer). if it's the prolapse, then hopefully this ring thing will have fixed that.
thankfully i woke up this morning needing to go, and was able to with no problems, and have been ok today, but cripes, i don't want to relive that experience in a hurry!?!! xx

Mishtabel · 12/10/2011 03:50

Oh MrsBigz, you have my sympathy - ouch! Bit of drama that you certainly didn't need there. I have a retroverted uterus and while it didn't cause problems with the first 3, with Bella I had similar (though obviously not as severe) issues as you with peeing. I used to (TMI) have to just about pee upside down, grabbing on to my feet to get the weight of the uterus off my bladder. And the constant pressure! One beautiful morning though I woke up and things had obviously moved overnight and I could pee like a relatively normal person and no pressure - heaven. Think this happened at an earlier stage than what you are at though. Hopefully this will happen for you soon, and good that the donut thing seems to be doing it's job in the mean time.

Thanks again for your thoughts re: DD ladies. I'll keep this update short, promise. I have a video of the fight, not all of it, only 13 seconds worth, where the girl has my DD by the hair and repeated knees her in the face before throwing her by the hair into the mud. Very, very hard to watch, but felt I had no choice really. Also need it to show police. DH comes home tomorrow. Not sure how to tell him, as he is the sort who will want to confront the parents, and I really don't think that is a good idea in this case.

In other news, I no longer have to worry about my other DD and her boyfriend with the car, as he told her yesterday he likes someone else - her best friend :( Poor DD. I can't talk to her about it, as her sister told me this in confidence, and saying not to tell me. Feel a bit sad that she doesn't want to talk to me about it, but am glad that she told my other DD who then told me, as now I know when she's in a bad mood to go a bit easy on her, rather than put it down to regular teenage mood swings (which I can lose patience with at times)

And yet in other news - DH rang yesterday saying my car (we had swapped cars while he was away) had been vandalized with all it's windows and stereo smashed in. It had been left at his main work site while he's been away interstate.Covered by insurance, so more of a nuisance than anything, organizing it to be fixed and hire cars etc. And of course the bleedin $600 excess

Lastly, Bella will be having an xray this afternoon of her knee and hip, as for no apparent reason, her left leg just kept giving way not yesterday, but the day before. Yesterday she could walk, but had a funny gait and would sit down, hold her thigh and say "ouchy". Today she seems ok, but as doctor said, better safe than sorry, so X-ray it is.

Been a bit of a crappy week actually! I would say it can only get better, but they sound too much like famous last words to me, so I'll refrain.

No doubt I'll keep you all posted :)

Love to you all xxx

Mishtabel · 12/10/2011 04:00

Sorry, realised I over-dramatised there - DD's ex boyfriend likes ONE of her best friends, not very best friend, which is slightly better I suppose

Mishtabel · 16/10/2011 04:36

Hi everyone, so quiet here. I hope the reason for that is that you've all been busy and that I haven't scared you off/bored you silly with my tales of woe! Also would hate to scare off lurkers with my ramblings (I'm not always like this, promise)

I hope the new babies are continuing to thrive, that MrsBigz donutty thing is still doing it's job, that Cherry's situation improves soon, and, of course, that Kittens is getting to create some lasting memories with her mum.

Love to everyone else, and hope you are enjoying you weekend xx

PS: haven't got results of Bella's xray yet, though I'm confident all is good there as she's been absolutely fine since the other day

Cantdothisagain · 16/10/2011 09:11

Hi everyone. Mishtabel, you'll never scare everyone off! You are however making me appreciate my girls while they are young as I realize the teen years are a minefield! Your poor daughter, how absolutely HORRIBLE, and how ridiculous that a violent attack like that just gets a caution until it's happened three times. What kind of message is that sending out?! How is your daughter feeling now?As for your older daughter, well, I think teen romance is probably best off going that way (ie silly and soap operaish) as it helps to harden her up for more serious relationships later. But so hard at the time. Not to mention tactless! why didnt he just say he wasnt serious about the relationship rather than mentioning preferring her friend?! Teenage boys, honestly. I hope she can hold her head high and tell him she isn't bothered. I know that's a whole lot easier to say than do though.
Hope Bella's leg is okay- sounds like it is, but yes, good to check anyway. Bet she seems like a walk in the park compared to the teens at the moment!
I can imagine you are looking forward to some back up in DH coming home!

Cherry, you sound so brave, when is your due date? and good luck with Leila's anniversary coming up. As we've all said, the anticipation is worse than the reality I think. So exciting to think your baby is coming soon. Boy or girl I wonder? This thread attracts boys..

MrsBigz, ouch!!! Hope you can pee in peace now. And many congrats on having a boy. We have a family with three little boys living in our street and they play together so nicely (if very noisily!!!!). Your three will have so much fun.

Hi everyone else, hope pregnancies are going well and babies are doing well and everyone is okay.

News from here is back at work and busy but fine. Babycant is so funny now. She is a very early talker and never stops. She also sings a lot, and since we watch lots of musical movies like Mary Poppins and the Sound of Music with DD1, she sings songs from there as well as nursery rhymes and it sounds hilarious. DD1 has learnt to wind her up though by mentioning chocolate - just the word chocolate sends Babycant crazy with excitement. Shall I call her a new name since shes no longer a baby (18 months)? Not sure what.

Kittens a big hug from here. You know I am thinking of you.

Coffeeandchocolate · 17/10/2011 13:09

Hi everyone, I?ve been reading but have been unable to post properly, and with so many things happening on the thread it just didn?t feel appropriate to write a quick message and then run.

Congratulations manitz on the birth of baby Sacha, what a rocky start but great that things are improving. Let us know how you all are when you have the chance.

Cherry, what a nightmare, and I agree, you are so resilient and so brave. I hope you will get a lot of help from your in laws when LO arrives, enough to compensate for the lack of privacy.

Kittens, another one here thinking about you. I am at a loss for words really, I just hope you have a lot of quality time with your mum.

Mrsbigz, how are you feeling? What you described sounded so painful, I hope the ?doughnut? (auch!) is doing its job.

Mishta, your poor DD! And poor you, of course. And the car vandalised, on top of all this! I just can?t believe police need to see it three times before doing anything, why on earth is this?!!! You?re dealing with it so well, it must have been so hard to watch the video, I can?t even imagine. Can I send a big virtual hug to Oz? Also, I hope Bella?s leg is ok and the x-ray didn?t show anything wrong.

Cantdo, I smiled reading about Babycant?s singing :) I think Babycant is a very good name, even if she is now a toddler. Speaking of which, can I also continue with Coffeebean? I love his thread name and would prefer to have him as Coffeebean on the list. He is definitely not a bean anymore, still a baby but at the same time more like a little man with a strong personality starting to show. He is 8 months in a week?s time, crawling and getting his hands on everything, a good eater so far and my God, very active. His sleep is much better, but he is an early riser, so while he bounces and shrieks in his jumper at 6am I am bleary eyed and just want a big cup of coffee!

Sorry not to mention everyone, but I?m reading and thinking of you all. Yes, who is due after Cherry? xxxx

babylily · 19/10/2011 20:56

hi...came on to do a quick check in (having problems with loading mumsnet through aol for some reason and keep having to give up in the brief windows of time i can find) ...and it is now not typing half of what i'm trying to write so please please forgive brief replies that will not be worthy of the huge eventsthey are in response to....
...and stunned at everything that's been going on.

mishtabel- so sorry to hear about such a nightmare for your dd. I really hope you get some proper help from authorities, and shocked that support has not been forthcoming already...

cherry- so sad to hear about the fire...i hope you are able to be as settled as you can be before due date...

mrsbigz- i have my legs crossed at your story-can only imagine how uncomfortable it all is.

And manitz- another dramatic arrival. Huge congratulations and so glad to hear that sacha is now home and growing well. (lovely lovely name)

Our Miles has now reached birthweight again at the old age of 6 weeks. We're all just completely loved up with him...even in the middle of the night when he decides to feed for 5 hours and refuse to go to sleep...I just feel so absolutely blessed to have him...everything we went through with our terminations, all the stresses of pregnancy, all just meant we were able to have him, the unique little man that he is and that makes it all worth while.

gosh, a bit too philosophical on very little sleep
. night night
x

katiecubs · 20/10/2011 19:52

Gosh mishtabel you poor thing and your poo DD - thats just horrendous! I really hope that showing the video to the police does some good and at the very least they give her a firm caution and a good telling off, and her parents too! Really hoping it all sorts itself out a bit soon - hopefully having DH home will help you too.

Can't -bless baby can't she sounds super. I love the thought of her going into a wild frenzy over chocolate Grin

Lovely to hear updates on the little ones from everyone else too. Mrs Bigz - not so great to hear your ouchy update eeek! Glad it's sorted though and the doughnut is doing it's job.

All ok here after a bit of a poo few weeks, Felix has had a really nasty ear infection that just wouldn't shift. Both his ear drums have now perforated after exploding with puss (just horrible!) luckily that means the pain caused by all the pressure has now gone. Prior to that he was just screaming in pain which is just so unlike my happy little chap. He is now near deaf but hopefully the ear drums will mend over the next few weeks and he will be able to hear his mama again!

Kittens big hugs. My thoughts are with you as always. xxxxxxxx

NatzCNL · 21/10/2011 21:55

Im sorry Ive not been on here since Sienna's birth, it has been a bit of a whirlwind because Im still trying to get into the school run routine, and it's not too easy with 3 kids... especially with a stubborn 3 year old who has suddenly developed a severe hatred of socks Hmm - lots of trauma!

So much has been going on on this thread. Cherry, how awful and upsetting, I hope you are back in your home as quickly as possible xx

Kittens, my thoughts are with you and your family. I honestly dont know what to say as the thought of everything you, your mum and your family is going through is breaking my heart. Sending you lots of strength xx

Mishtabel, I cant believe that nothing is going to be done about this girl. I understand the whole 1st caution hing, but it is obvious that this girl is a menace and has not acted like this for the first time. I hope the school do something, even if the police cant. I am dreading this sort of thing. xx

Katie, poor felix! I hope the infection clears soon, it is awful seeing our babies in pain. Leila suffered quite badly with ear infections when she was smaller, luckily they are much less frequent now, and her hearing is fine - when she chooses to use it! Smile

Manitz, CONGRATULATIONS! I am glad to see that after all the drama, baby Sacha is home now. I hope you are well and getting some sleep (I am getting used to the night time feeds now)

Babylily, hooray to the weight gain! I hope you too re-discover sleep soon. They do figure out the whole day and night time thing eventually Grin

Mrsbigz, I hope you are safely peeing without any problems now... Cant imagine how uncomfortable the doughnut must be! Here's hoping the rest of the pregnancy will be uneventful x

Im sorry Ive not mentioned everyone, lots to catch up on and very little time to post! Hello to everyone else and I hope all you pregnant ladies are keeping well.

Sienna has slotted right in to our family, she is gaining weight at an alarming rate, she lost no birth weight at all and had actually put on an oz by day 5, and almost an entire pound by day 17! So it's safe to say I am totally exaughsted as breast feeding on demand - and this little piggy is very demanding. But on the plus side, she usually sleeps from about 9pm to 2am, then again until around 6am. And will usually sleep for about 4 hours in the afternoon. She will be 4 weeks old on Monday, but seems like she has been here for months! She gives daddy all her smiles, and accidentally gave me one a couple of days ago.

The girls adore her still and want to do everything except nappies. It's all about the cuddles, they both bounce into our room in the morning for Sienna cuddles... Mummy is totally forgotten Grin

Ive carried on the baby naming, just copied and pasted below xx

NumptyMum - Josie 28/06/10
Katiecubs - Felix 13/08/10
LittlePoot - Jacob 02/02/11
NatzCNL - Sienna 26/09/11

Will try to catch up a bit more often. Did I mention that I am also organising our wedding?? And it's now half term... think I need a holiday, or sectioning under the mental health act - lol xx

katiecubs · 22/10/2011 19:47

hey natz really lovely to hear from you! Sienna sounds like such a good baby wow, and lovely your other girls are so good with her Smile

when are you getting married - our wedding is 16th december and am starting to get scared now as i have a list as long as my arm with things to do but hardly any time to do them! x

Mishtabel · 23/10/2011 10:20

Hi everyone, no time for a proper post, but just wanting to say hi and thanks for the support.

So lovely to get updates on the little ones, although some not so little anymore. They all sound divine.

Cant, hope you're coping with being back at work. Is it full or part time?

Coffee, glad Coffeebean is now a good sleeper. I take it you managed to move him back out of your bed? No such luck here, but with DH away most of the time, no real incentive either.

Babylily, glad Miles weight is heading in the right direction. Don't you wish, at the start of your pregnancy you could see into the future and see that everything would just be fine? If only...

Katie, poor little Felix. I imagine it must have been a very hard for you all. Glad he is on the mend, and hope he can hear his mummy again very soon.

Good luck to both you and Natz on the wedding plans. Not long for you Katie! I'm sure we'll all be there in spirit.
Natz, you're life sounds so busy (but lovely) ATM, so hopefully you've got a bit more time up your sleeve than Katie.

Quick update on DD (as she's hassling for my phone to play music cause her iPod got stolen during the fight). She is currently grounded (though I did let her go to the shops with her older sister and friends this afternoon) as last weekend she failed to meet me following a day of shopping with a couple of friends. Ended up not coming home all night, police looking for her, DH (it happened to be his weekend home) and I worried half to death, looking for her half the night. Very out of character. We knew who she was with (though I didn't know them very well), just not where or what she was doing. Found her the next day. She admitted to drinking with these girls she was with - said she just wanted to escape for the night and have fun. Full of remorse etc. Said she'd had a crap night as all she could think about was how much trouble she was going to be in when she got home. Had a few words, as you'd imagine (about dangers of drinking when so young etc). Incidentally, while she was out today, she ran into one of the girls she went out with that night, who announced that she is pregnant (at 15).
Anyway, glad DH was home for that night that she went missing, but also felt bad that it had happened on his only weekend home. He's now away for six weeks.
We're talking of her returning to school at some stage (maybe at the start of the school year in January) as I know she finds it hard being at home so much. Also she is SO hard to get motivated to do her work in the morning.
The girl that assaulted her has been told if she does it again, she will waive the right to future cautions, and go straight to being charged with assault, so that's good.
Oops, not such a quick update after all Blush

Ok, I'll love you and leave you all. Have a lovely Sunday everyone xxx

NatzCNL · 24/10/2011 16:53

Wow, Mishtabel, sounds like you have been having a rather stressful time of it with your DD. I remember being her age and also getting up to similar things with regard to under age drinking and staying out (but only when I stayed at my cousins house as I knew I could get away with it under my aunt and uncles 'supervision' without getting into mega trouble).
Teenage years are such a frightening thought for me, Im dreading them. But they also pass as does the toddler years, and that is the only thing that calms my mind. Im glad that the police are not going to take into consideration how serious this assault was, with any luck, that will be the end of the trouble with her and your DD.

Katie, we are having a mid-week wedding on 11th April 2012. Planned to make it more affordable as most venues, DJ's, photographers etc do massive midweek reductions in price and we just cant afford to spend too much. Also hoped it would mean that some people wouldn't be able to make it (those who we weren't bothered about coming or not) but so far, we have only had one guest decline and that is due to the fact that her baby will have only just been born... so guess we wont be having a small buffet after all!

We have pretty much everything sorted (not bad considering we only decided to get married 5 weeks ago), just trying to decide which DJ to go with then all we have left to do is buy a cake, sort out a car and buy a dress, everything else is done! Eek. I have no idea how we managed to get everything done so quickly, but I suppose it helped doing most of it whilst Craig was on leave with the baby. We also have friends doing things like flowers and hair & make up.

I hope you get everything sorted soon Katie, not long to go now! Are you hoping for a white (snowy) wedding? xx

Cherrybug · 26/10/2011 15:32

Hi all,

Mishtabel - it never rains huh. Poor you, I'm also dreading the teenage years as I feel girls are just that bit more vulnerable. I hope you got the harm reduction messages through.

Natz - glad Sienna is settling in well. I'm very impressed with your wedding planning, particularly with a newborn. We've done nothing about planning our wedding but I suppose with everything that's been going on it's not really surprising. We're hoping to set a Sept date so hopefully plenty of time.

Things are a bit rubbish here - still at in laws, house slowly progressing. Been told we should be able to go back in early Dec which is longer than we hoped but nothing can be done to hurry it up. At least we'll be back from Christmas I suppose. But not happy about being unable to take our baby home and also the effect our situation may have on the bonding between DD and the new baby. DD has been SO much more difficult staying here and I suspect won't be interested in the baby as she'll be far too busy playing with granny and grandad which is all she wants to do. Discipline is going out of window too as she gets away with anything with them and so has become much more spolit and bossy which is worrying. Hoping it will all settle down again once we get back home.

To add to the stress I was also diagnosed with obstetric cholestasis on Monday and have been put on medication and had to go up to the hospital twice this week for monitoring and blood tests. I have to go again on Monday and am booked for induction on Tuesday next week. So feeling a bit upset about that and disappointed that yet again I wont experience a natural birth plus of course all the additional worry of the risks cholestasis can bring.

Anyway have to roll with it so we're doing our best to stay upbeat though the strain is getting to us a bit. But keep telling myself it's not forever!

Hope everyone else is doing well - new babies thriving and those in mid pregnancy feeling relaxed!

And Kittens - hope you're ok and enjoying some good times with your mum.

manitz · 27/10/2011 22:10

hi just coming on to catch up. Natz, sienna sounds like a very easy baby. Sacha is not quite so good at sleeping - not really his fault, he just seems very windy and colicy, so is up from about 1am to about 3/4am. i am knackered! we have had a pretty full on half term too so not catching up. Reckon I could cope with it all but my scar isn't healing great - rather nicely my tummy hangs over it and so it doesn't get enough air Blush am now on my second lot of antibiotics and hoping that will sort it out. organising my wedding was horrible, glad you have most of it sorted out now bet your girls are excited. with katie and cherrybug maybe we should have a wedding list also?

Cherrybug, you have loads on your plate. I just wanted to reassure you about the impact of all this on your dd. Try not to worry about her, we lived with my parents when dd1 was 2 and dd2 was 6 months old for 9 months. They were horribly spoiled but i found they have really short memories at that age and we were sorted really quickly once we were back in our house. i sympathise as it's really stressful but I bet she's having the time of her life, we foudn that our kids were at home as long as they were with us and it really shouldn't affect bonding. I was concerned this time round about mine and kids bonding with sacha as he was in hospital for a while (and not with me) but it has all been fine.

here are my details added to list
NumptyMum - Josie 28/06/10
Katiecubs - Felix 13/08/10
LittlePoot - Jacob 02/02/11
NatzCNL - Sienna 26/09/11
Manitz - Sacha 28/09/11

mrsbigz · 28/10/2011 10:59

really really quick one from me to say sorry i've been a bit (a lot!!) AWOL recently, my laptop has given up the ghost so i'm just sneaking on now on my work laptop (hence the haste!)
hello to everyone, and i promise i will catch up properly soon when i've less chance of someone looking over my shoulder!
just to let you know that i have my anomoly scan today (EEK!!) in about an hour, and i'm both petrified and strangely calm all at the same time. hoping beyond hope that everything is okay with baby bigz, they don't pick anything untoward up Confused will update you later as soon as i can xxxx

mrsbigz · 28/10/2011 14:08

oh crap Confused i should have known it wouldn't be all plain sailing :(
on the positive side, babybigz was measuring right on track, heart looks perfect, limbs all the right length, very active, brain all ok (no excess fluid). thought we got away with it.........

then she said that she needed to get a second opinion. on his right lung she'd noticed an echogenic area, on the scan it was showing that lung was much brighter than the other. she referred us back to prenatal diagnostics - and i was met by the bereavement MW i had with Eve (which was kind of nice as i know her well), led back to the same room, with the same hard sofa and crappy pictures on the wall (oh, and box of tissues on the table).

she said the echogenic area could be symptomatic of CCAM (congenital cystic ademnomatoid malformation) which at it's worst can be fatal, but mild is completely liveable with (and she did stress that they don't even know at this point if it is that. she also said that everything else looked really good, there was no hydrops (another symptom), the heart hadn't been pushed aside (another symptom) but is sending us to the JR in Oxford next week for a detailed scan.

Anyone ever heard of this / had any experience. i'm in a right state, happy that everything else seems to be looking ok, but really really not what i need for my nerves........i don't think i'll ever be able to relax in this pregnancy now. sorry for the moan, just worried all over again, and being back in that room again..........

Mishtabel · 29/10/2011 15:11

Oh mrsbigz, please don't apologise for the 'moan'. How worrying for you - just what you don't need. I've never heard of the condition myself, but fwiw, quite a few on here have had scares of some sort or other during their pregnancy that was picked up at a scan, that subsequently turned out to be nothing. So hoping that's the case for you, but I imagine it's going to feel like a very long week for you. Back to trying to keep yourself busy and counting down the days I guess. Offload here in the meantime if it helps. I would say try not to google too much, especially if they're not sure if it's CCAM or not, but that would be 'do as I say, not as I do'. Will be thinking of you xx

Cherry, I can only imagine how stressful things must be for you at the moment. Even if you have the loveliest of lovely in-laws, it would still be tough going, and not how you imagined things to be at all. Living with my in-laws was an option for us between selling our old house and building this one (whilst I was expecting Bella), though my answer to that was pretty much "Over.My.Dead.Body". Would have saved us an absolutely fortune though, and the hassle of moving three times (instead of two) so if you have the tolerance/patience/perseverance,it will be well worth it in the end. Before long, you will be in your beautiful refurbished home and hopefully be able to look back at this time and laugh.
As for the cholestasis, I have a friend who has had this near the end of each of her three pregnancies. Though she was induced with a drip each time, her labors otherwise progressed naturally, and nothing untoward occurred as a result of the cholestasis. Not trying to down-play the seriousness if the condition at all, as of course left undiagnosed/untreated can be catastrophic, but good that they've picked up on it and are looking after you. Will be thinking of you Tuesday xx

Manitz, no wonder you're exhausted! Do you get to nap through the day? Bit hard when it's school holidays (which I am taking the term 'half-term' to mean?). You probably know already, but adequate rest is important to the healing process. Sending healing vibes your way xx

Natz, I'm also most impressed with your organizational skills - well done!

All pretty good here. Things still not ideal with 14yr old DD, but won't bore you all with the details at this time (no promises for future posts though).
Sorry to scare you all with tales of teenage years Grin - they're not all bad - promise. Until this year, 16yr old DD was so quiet and loved to spend time with me. Now she has discovered boys - different story. She's happy though, so that's what matters I suppose (she's currently at a party, and I'm determined not to worry, hence why I'm still awake MNing at 1am)

Question: do any of you (besides our lovely style queen Kittens, who I often spot in S&B, and the lovely Manitz in allergies) post elsewhere in MN, and if so, do you name change? Was just curious as have a bit if an AIBU type question (though loathe to post there) which, while I wouldn't mind you all knowing about, wouldn't bore you all with it (not to do with DD btw). As I have a profile with pics and all, am I right in thinking that even if I name change, my profile would still show up?

Better go try and sleep. Love to all xxx