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Teachers don't have it as hard as my husband says he does

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IamwhoIsayIam · 08/05/2023 09:14

My husband is a teacher. I know teaching is a demanding job but I feel he makes it out to be harder and more stressful than it is. This weekend he had both Saturday and Sunday morning as lies in and when I asked when mine was his answer was "when I give up teaching."

He can't contribute at home of an evening because of marking and preparation. He loses his patience with our children because he has spent all day disciplining other people's kids. He complains about housework at the weekends because 'weekends are for fun and rest' and it should get done in the week, but in the week isn't available to do any of it himself.

I work 4 out of 5 days and I earn at least double his salary. I've said he makes me feel like a 'cash cow' with comments like 'if we want more income you could work more, I can't as I am already full time.' Which is true, but I don't actually want more income. We live very frugally and I'd rather have free time. (I can see he is jealous of the luxury of that free time - though its not 'me time' just non-paid work time)

We have talked about him giving up but I pointed out that in that case he would have to take on all the house and life admin so I could work full time to top up the loss in salary. I get comments like "you make out you are so busy and life is so hard for you but your job is easy and you don't understand how hard my job is."

My job is easier - I know - I enjoy it and I work from home. But I also think some people would find it stressful, I don't because I enjoy it and work hard at it. My gut feeling is that this is his problem. He doesn't like it and doesn't enjoy working at it.

AIBU in saying teaching isn't that draining that he should just suck it up and contribute more or quit?

OP posts:
Igmum · 08/05/2023 09:34

Another vote for knob here. Of course it isn't because he's a teacher. He'd probably be making the same excuses if he worked as a cashier in Sainsburys. Exactly what does this prince of a man bring to your relationship that is positive?

Georgeandzippyzoo · 08/05/2023 09:34

Both me and dh were teachers and we shared house stuff, but also allowed it to drift a bit when things were too stressful.
DH now head of school so has less marking etc on a day to day basis(could literally be hours each night) but now often works much longer hrs with safeguarding situations etc.

I no longer teach (carer) When DH was a class teacher day-to-day we had very little time together . I could see that stress levels were high and I would/ do cut him some slack BUT he could still help, even if it was just doing the dishes/hoovrerng a room etc .

Regardless of pay/income he is working an extra day than you so I can see that he might think you have that time to do stuff. DH has had alie each day this weekend while I've been up and I don't redentcthat as I know during the school holidays he picks up slack.

I have always said that if I hadn't been a teacher and understand what that brings, we possibly could be divorced as many of our friends are.
Yes it is very stressful and knackering but does that mean he can't help at all? No.

tinytemper66 · 08/05/2023 09:34

IamwhoIsayIam · 08/05/2023 09:14

My husband is a teacher. I know teaching is a demanding job but I feel he makes it out to be harder and more stressful than it is. This weekend he had both Saturday and Sunday morning as lies in and when I asked when mine was his answer was "when I give up teaching."

He can't contribute at home of an evening because of marking and preparation. He loses his patience with our children because he has spent all day disciplining other people's kids. He complains about housework at the weekends because 'weekends are for fun and rest' and it should get done in the week, but in the week isn't available to do any of it himself.

I work 4 out of 5 days and I earn at least double his salary. I've said he makes me feel like a 'cash cow' with comments like 'if we want more income you could work more, I can't as I am already full time.' Which is true, but I don't actually want more income. We live very frugally and I'd rather have free time. (I can see he is jealous of the luxury of that free time - though its not 'me time' just non-paid work time)

We have talked about him giving up but I pointed out that in that case he would have to take on all the house and life admin so I could work full time to top up the loss in salary. I get comments like "you make out you are so busy and life is so hard for you but your job is easy and you don't understand how hard my job is."

My job is easier - I know - I enjoy it and I work from home. But I also think some people would find it stressful, I don't because I enjoy it and work hard at it. My gut feeling is that this is his problem. He doesn't like it and doesn't enjoy working at it.

AIBU in saying teaching isn't that draining that he should just suck it up and contribute more or quit?

I am at the tail end of my career, nearly 57 and going through the menopause.
I am exhausted coming home from work.
However, I can still function in family life. I rarely take work home with me. If it doesn't get done in work, then o don't bring it home. I don't stay late unless I have to.
We don't mark books since the Pandemic but do mark assessments and exams.
It isn't easy but I think he is milking it. I may be an exception rather than the rule but he needs to be fair to you and the family.

SunnyEgg · 08/05/2023 09:35

DaisyDaisyDaisyDaisyDaisyDaisy · 08/05/2023 09:32

Fancy a little goad on a BH Monday did you OP?

Why do you say this?

Do you think it’s made up, the op may well be annoyed at what’s going on

Stripedbag101 · 08/05/2023 09:35

he has gotten into a mindset that his job is harder and more stressful than any other job therefore he deserves downtime when others don’t.

life doesn’t work like that. He has a family and a home and he has to participate.

if he is truly that miserable about his job why doesn’t he leave? It sounds like he has made being miserable part of hos identify

Walkingtheplank · 08/05/2023 09:38

What happens during the summer holiday? I appreciate some of that will be spent prepping for the new year but presumably he has a few clear weeks.

My numbers might he wrong but I think schools are open 190 p.a. + insets. Your 4 days a week takes you to 180+ factoring in annual leave and bank holidays.

If you are expected to do everything on your weekly day off, does he do everything on his weeks off?

Hardbackwriter · 08/05/2023 09:39

Just adding another voice to a 'I'm married to a teacher and this isn't a teacher thing it's a dickhead thing' chorus. DH does a bit more of the childcare and we split the housework evenly. He manages to be nice to the children and share lie-ins.

Tinybrother · 08/05/2023 09:39

My husband is a teacher. It is a very stressful job. He doesn’t behave like your husband. This is a husband problem, not a teaching problem.

IamwhoIsayIam · 08/05/2023 09:41

Thanks for everyone's input - especially other teachers and partners of teachers. It's not being goady - I'm not saying that teacher's don't have it hard, but that my own husband has the belief that his job is much harder than mine ( and honestly nearly everyone else's!)

For those asking I am self-employed so have no paid holiday my 4 days a week is 32 hours divided by 5 days working between drop off and school pick-up. It's not a 'day off'. So yes after school care is mine, as is cooking dinner etc which is fair enough.

We live frugally by choice - I'd personally work much less and have more free time. Unfortunately his school won't entertain part time hours as that would be the solution (for his happiness at least). He's not keen on the less income angle of me working less - or the fairness angle of him having a full time job and me not.

OP posts:
GoodChat · 08/05/2023 09:43

RoseBucket · 08/05/2023 09:22

When you say teachers are you saying all teachers or your sample of one teacher?

Well she's saying they don't have it as hard as he's claiming, which is true of all teachers.

Tinybrother · 08/05/2023 09:44

Do you live in an expensive area? A household income of 3 x a full time teacher’s salary is not so small.

GoodChat · 08/05/2023 09:44

DaisyDaisyDaisyDaisyDaisyDaisy · 08/05/2023 09:32

Fancy a little goad on a BH Monday did you OP?

She's not having a go at teachers though, is she.

Toddlerteaplease · 08/05/2023 09:45

My mum was a teacher. Our lives were dominated by her 'homework' but the house was still spotless and she was/ is a great mum. And my dad did his fair share.

PumpkinPie2016 · 08/05/2023 09:45

He is being unreasonable!

I am a teacher - full time, secondary, head of a core subject. So a big workload and a lot of pressure. It is a hard and demanding job, like many are. I enjoy it but it is bloody hard at tines.

That said, I don't opt out of home/family life because of it! Me and DH split household jobs, I contribute equally to taking our son to his activities/parties etc. I cook meals and shop. I support our son with his homework (he is in primary school). Yesterday, we had a day out as a family.

I do the above because I want to and it's fair to my husband and son!

There are possibly three issues;

  1. The school your dh is in. Some are far worse than others for workload. In which case, it may be worth him changing schools.
  1. Does he have additional responsibility? Like Head of department or head of year? If so, perhaps he needs to consider dropping this.
  1. Is he working efficiently? At school, I use my free periods and lunch to work hard. Doesn't mean I don't bring anything home but it does reduce it. I see some colleagues spending their frees just chatting - their choice but they probably take home more than I do. Marking - this is school dependent but day to day, I do most of it live in class. It means I am never still in lessons as I am constantly circulating, checking, giving feedback but it's better for me and the pupils. So, I only mark assessment pieces out of lessons.

Basically, yes teaching is a bloody tough job, but he cannot opt out of family life - that's not how it should work.

WeWereInParis · 08/05/2023 09:46

This weekend he had both Saturday and Sunday morning as lies in and when I asked when mine was his answer was "when I give up teaching."

Didn't need to read past this. He's a dick.

Firstmonthfree · 08/05/2023 09:47

I’d be telling him if he hates teaching so much and finds it so difficult he needs to find another job out of the sector and start earning more.

it’s one thing not contributing financially if it’s your dream job, but he obviously hates it, it’s affecting his behaviour at home and his relationship with his kids so he needs to pack it in and find another job. One that makes him less miserable

DaisyDaisyDaisyDaisyDaisyDaisy · 08/05/2023 09:48

@SunnyEgg because of the 2nd and final sentence of the OP. I think someone has already come along saying all teachers think their job is more stressful than everybody elses. There will be more.

DaisyDaisyDaisyDaisyDaisyDaisy · 08/05/2023 09:49

@GoodChat I'm not entering into any discussion with you bearing in mind your previous comment

noblegiraffe · 08/05/2023 09:49

Unfortunately his school won't entertain part time hours as that would be the solution

This sounds very odd. Has he actually formally put in a flexible working request and had it rejected with business reasons?

dottiedodah · 08/05/2023 09:49

I wonder if he may be depressed? I am not making excuses here ,but he may not enjoy his job.then see you earning more and doing a day less( Im not suggesting you dont work hard too!) Also wonder why you live so frugally.If you are earning well ,surely you need some relief in the form of treats .Holidays ,days out and nice food ? You dont sound like you are having much fun! OK if on a tight budget,but if not make the most of having DC ,spoiling them and relaxing a bit!

Skyblue92 · 08/05/2023 09:50

DaisyDaisyDaisyDaisyDaisyDaisy · 08/05/2023 09:48

@SunnyEgg because of the 2nd and final sentence of the OP. I think someone has already come along saying all teachers think their job is more stressful than everybody elses. There will be more.

Of course they will, I mean someone has already said teachers don’t have it as hard as they claim

0021andabit · 08/05/2023 09:50

I think he needs to change careers.

LakieLady · 08/05/2023 09:51

I have every sympathy for teachers and the ridiculous hours they have to put in with marking, lesson prep and after hours activities. I've several ex-teacher friends and they all worked well into the evening most weeknights and often spent a lot of time on school work at weekends, too. They're ex-teachers for a reason.

However, they managed not to act like twats and still participated in family life.

Hardbackwriter · 08/05/2023 09:51

Unfortunately his school won't entertain part time hours as that would be the solution (for his happiness at least)

a) Are you really, really sure they wouldn't? It's amazing how many men just know an application to reduce hours would be rejected and so don't put one in, even when their workplace has women working part-time...
b) isn't the obvious answer then that he looks for a new school where he could work part-time? In general, even if he didn't change hours I think if he's really stressed and worn down where he is he should consider other schools - I cannot emphasize enough how it changed all our lives when my DH moved to a school with a more supportive (less completely mental) SLT. Though tbf things would have changed anyway if he'd stayed as the head was sacked because they'd been stealing from the school not that long after...

pilates · 08/05/2023 09:53

He needs to do more.

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