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Pissed off at DH making breakfast

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SecretEater23 · 11/06/2023 10:28

I've been heavy for much of my adult life, nothing horrendous but definitely gained a lot over covid. Ended up with a bmi of 31 this winter and completely shaken by the death of a colleague (heart attack at 52 leaving partner and kids behind) I decided enough's enough.

Started keeping a food diary and my god, the amount of crap (biscuits, chocolate, crisps, sugar etc) I ate without really registering it in my mind was crazy.

I've managed to shift 7kg so far in 3 months, mostly by cutting out anything between meals, stopping drinking at home and going for a brisk walk as many days as I can.

I still struggle a bit with needing to rely a lot on willpower to resist biscuits with tea, snacks on the sofa watching Netflix and wine of a weekend etc.

My DH just doesn't really seem to want to help, constant offers of "do you want a glass of wine?", "I've got a big bag of crisps you wanna watch a movie" etc. He's never really struggled with weight and I'm not saying this is impossibly hard but 3 months in and it's still requiring a good level of effort to eat healthily and resist my old habits.

This morning, out for a brisk walk with the dog, come back, told DH I was going to stop by the local shop to get some bananas so I could have banana on toast when I got back.

I come in to a fired breakfast.... "it's Sunday, I thought you'd appreciate it" 🤬🤬🤬

Cue a big row about me being pissed off with his lack of support and constant offers of food/drink he knows I'm trying to cut down on.

He's off in the huff, making noises about only trying to be kind and how I'm being ungrateful and it's not like I'm an alcoholic and he's one of those pals desperate for a night out and trying to get me to drink again..... Twat.

Fried breakfast in the food bin and I've just eaten toast and banana.

I know I'm not BU but just wanted to rant

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SecretEater23 · 11/06/2023 15:11

Kamia · 11/06/2023 15:10

I think he's not being supportive enough but you also overreacted. You could have just said thanks for the breakfast but I'll stick to my diet thank you. You could have salvaged the breakfast it's quite a waste to go in the bin. Maybe he used to enjoy pigging out with you. Maybe you need to find a healthier activity to replace eating junk together.

He put it in the bin

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Freefall212 · 11/06/2023 15:13

If there is an underlying or reoccurring theme of dieting / unhappiness with your body and your weight, negative comments about yourself, poor body image, restricting or disordered eating, your own insecurities impacting the family, not eating family meals together, being a bad role model for your teens....then I get him. It is very hard when one person loads their issues onto everyone and expects the family to deal with it.

Tiredanddistracted · 11/06/2023 15:14

Freefall212 · 11/06/2023 15:09

I think it is unfair to impose a diet on other members of the household. Especially when your decisions as to what can or can't be eaten on said diet / restrictive eating plan aren't really nutiritionally sound.

If he wants sausage and eggs for breakfast and for the kids - he can make it. If you want to nibble on bread and a banana instead then do so but he doesn't need to change his eating habits because you have changed yours.

Jesus Christ.

EarthSight · 11/06/2023 15:15

SunnySaturdayMorning · 11/06/2023 14:02

YABVU. He made a fry up and offered you it too. He didn’t take your choice away 🙄 because you still had the option to make your boring banana breakfast.

Honestly, you’re being ridiculous. If you don’t want it, just say no. Don’t expect everyone else to pander about because you struggle with self control.

Honestly, you are being thick.

People who are persistently controlling won't necessary say to your face 'I think I should have control over what you eat and you have absolutely no choice in the matter. Come over here so I can shove this down your throat!'.

Instead they constantly interfere and frame it as 'helping'.

What they are doing though, is subtly manoeuvre you into the position they want you to be in. Sort of like someone obsessively arranging and re-arranging an object on a shelf so that it's to their 100% satisfaction. Some men who want to control what their wives wear don't say 'I don't want you to wear that', or 'You're not wearing that'. Instead, they will buy a new outfit for their wife, hoping to avoid that conflict.

Then, when you say no for like the 10th fucking time and actually show that you actually want more autonomy over what you eat or how you look, they will do a sad puppy face and have a sulk to emotionally punishing you. Often the other person then feels guilty, and often will let the other person dictate what they do in fear of another emotional punishment or more conflict.

The problem isn't with the person that is subject to this. They shouldn't feel like someone is encroaching on them in this way and have to say no all the time. The problem is with the person that is talking the piss and routinely doesn't respect people's boundaries.

Some people like to eat crap or high calorie food so they don't look bad. They want to indulge in their bad habits in company, and will take steps in order that they can continue to do that. This is what her husband is doing and he needs to stop behaving like a petulant child when they say no to this.

Freefall212 · 11/06/2023 15:16

Tiredanddistracted · 11/06/2023 15:14

Jesus Christ.

What does Jesus have to do with any of this? Are you prosthelytizing?

Same as if he decides he is only eating keto and no carbs. The house doens't need to go carb free and tip toe around him

WhichWitchWillBeWhich · 11/06/2023 15:17

Freefall212 · 11/06/2023 15:09

I think it is unfair to impose a diet on other members of the household. Especially when your decisions as to what can or can't be eaten on said diet / restrictive eating plan aren't really nutiritionally sound.

If he wants sausage and eggs for breakfast and for the kids - he can make it. If you want to nibble on bread and a banana instead then do so but he doesn't need to change his eating habits because you have changed yours.

What? Op didn’t say he couldn’t have the fry up or indeed the kids. She’s not imposing anything on him - he’s imposing his fry up on her when she just wanted a flaming banana.

BadNomad · 11/06/2023 15:18

Freefall212 · 11/06/2023 15:16

What does Jesus have to do with any of this? Are you prosthelytizing?

Same as if he decides he is only eating keto and no carbs. The house doens't need to go carb free and tip toe around him

You do realise that it is the husband who is trying to make the OP eat what he wants her to eat, right?

EarthSight · 11/06/2023 15:19

Yes I agree. For better support, I suggests she posts in the relationship forum next time @Tiredanddistracted

SecretEater23 · 11/06/2023 15:19

Freefall212 · 11/06/2023 15:09

I think it is unfair to impose a diet on other members of the household. Especially when your decisions as to what can or can't be eaten on said diet / restrictive eating plan aren't really nutiritionally sound.

If he wants sausage and eggs for breakfast and for the kids - he can make it. If you want to nibble on bread and a banana instead then do so but he doesn't need to change his eating habits because you have changed yours.

There is no imposition of a diet.

Mealtimes are as they were before. There's no appreciable change to the meals we eat.

I'm just not eating lots of crap between meals and where possible making better, healthier choices - extra veg on my plate for example

He can eat whatever he likes when it's a meal like breakfast, he wants sausages, bacon, black pudding go for it, but don't guilt trip me into eating it

I'm not fat because we ate rich, fatty, calorific meals 3 times a day and I'm not asking people to change their breakfast, lunch and dinner habits

I'm fat because I ate a lot of crap in between meals and drank a fair amount at home. The only change is to my own lifestyle.

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Tiredanddistracted · 11/06/2023 15:20

Freefall212 · 11/06/2023 15:16

What does Jesus have to do with any of this? Are you prosthelytizing?

Same as if he decides he is only eating keto and no carbs. The house doens't need to go carb free and tip toe around him

You have completely misread everything the OP has posted.

Had the husband been cooking a fry up for just himself or the children, then you would be 100% correct.

However, the point if the OP's annoyance is that she told him she wanted banana toast and he ignored her, presented her with a fry up that he had made FOR HER, expected her to eat it and sulked when she didn't.

She did not expect him to change his own eating habits and would have been fine with him eating a fry up himself.

I find it challenging to see how this could be framed as the OP imposing her diet on anyone else?

Twilight7777 · 11/06/2023 15:20

Prick. Also trying to lose weight and reading this, I’m so glad I’m single!

Freefall212 · 11/06/2023 15:23

BadNomad · 11/06/2023 15:18

You do realise that it is the husband who is trying to make the OP eat what he wants her to eat, right?

He had a little melt down over what seems to be a long existing issue about her disordered eating. He is human, he has emotions. He got upset.

Just like I am sure there have been women upset when they make a meal forthe family and he husband turns his nose up and refuses to eat it and how dare she make a meal with carbs or think he would ever joing the family for a meal when she know how he feels about carbs... yet he saw her eating ice cream yesterday but now an egg is like food of the devil and he is sabotaging her by cooking it....

Living together and being married doesn't mean you never get tired or frustrated with the other person and their issues. There are women on here posting every single day about their frustration and getting irritated with the men in their lives. Men get irritated too.

Tiredanddistracted · 11/06/2023 15:25

Freefall212 · 11/06/2023 15:23

He had a little melt down over what seems to be a long existing issue about her disordered eating. He is human, he has emotions. He got upset.

Just like I am sure there have been women upset when they make a meal forthe family and he husband turns his nose up and refuses to eat it and how dare she make a meal with carbs or think he would ever joing the family for a meal when she know how he feels about carbs... yet he saw her eating ice cream yesterday but now an egg is like food of the devil and he is sabotaging her by cooking it....

Living together and being married doesn't mean you never get tired or frustrated with the other person and their issues. There are women on here posting every single day about their frustration and getting irritated with the men in their lives. Men get irritated too.

But there's no evidence that her 'disordered eating', if indeed this is true, has any impact on the household, which is what you were suggesting?

Also, a little melt down would be fine if the OP turning down his fry up was in any way unreasonable. But it clearly wasn't.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 11/06/2023 15:25

INeedAnotherName · 11/06/2023 11:14

Actually a study performed by a weight loss clinic found that people eating a British breakfast lost more weight over time as it was more filling. It was higher in protein, the right fats, less carbs/sugar. It was on one of those programmes featuring that diet doc Moseley? If you google most major newspapers also confirm it.

However, you eat what you want and congratulations on losing some weight!

Ah yes, the guy who says UPFs should be avoided and in relation to sweeteners, says on his website

'A number of studies have shown that type 2 diabetics with poorly-controlled blood sugar have an impaired ability to detect sweet tastes, driving them to eat more. After bringing their blood sugar levels under control, however, they experienced greater sensitivity to taste, particularly sweet tastes. In consequence, they were able to gain greater satisfaction from unprocessed foods, such as apples and carrots.
So – bin the sweeteners, and fill your fridge with fresh fruit and veg.'

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saltinesandcoffeecups · 11/06/2023 15:27

OP, just because he made you the breakfast doesn’t mean you have to eat it. Yes you’ll have to use willpower, but you needed to use that to decide on banana and toast to begin with.

I think what you are missing in the advice on this thread is that people see you struggling and have probably been there themselves. Drastic changes in regular diets rarely work for long. The real key is to find the balance between the different choices that you are doing and also incorporating making the same choice but differently. (I.e. eating half the fry up instead everything).

You are coming across as really fed up and angry here including lashing out at other posters. That’s not ok to do either your family or other people because you are struggling. I suspect that this morning wasn’t the first time you were short or shouty at your DH. And I’d guess that’s why he had the reaction that he did.

maybe I’m all wrong with my take on the situation, but I’m betting there are more right bits than wrong ones. Well done with your progress so far and I do hope you find the balance that you’re looking for.

BadNomad · 11/06/2023 15:28

Freefall212 · 11/06/2023 15:23

He had a little melt down over what seems to be a long existing issue about her disordered eating. He is human, he has emotions. He got upset.

Just like I am sure there have been women upset when they make a meal forthe family and he husband turns his nose up and refuses to eat it and how dare she make a meal with carbs or think he would ever joing the family for a meal when she know how he feels about carbs... yet he saw her eating ice cream yesterday but now an egg is like food of the devil and he is sabotaging her by cooking it....

Living together and being married doesn't mean you never get tired or frustrated with the other person and their issues. There are women on here posting every single day about their frustration and getting irritated with the men in their lives. Men get irritated too.

He knew what she wanted for breakfast. She didn't ask him to make it. There was zero reason for him to do anything, let alone make her something she didn't want. Maybe in your relationship you're fine with being pushed into doing things you don't want to do, but that doesn't make it ok. He has no right to be irritated with her over his own actions.

AutumnCrow · 11/06/2023 15:30

I'd hate to be in a relationship where I couldn't have a fucking banana.

SecretEater23 · 11/06/2023 15:31

Tiredanddistracted · 11/06/2023 15:25

But there's no evidence that her 'disordered eating', if indeed this is true, has any impact on the household, which is what you were suggesting?

Also, a little melt down would be fine if the OP turning down his fry up was in any way unreasonable. But it clearly wasn't.

I definitely wouldn't say I have "disordered eating" issues.

I'm in my mid 40s, perimenopausal in a full time job where I don't move enough, eating a few too many custard creams of an evening with a cup of tea, drinking a few too many glasses of wine a week, reaching for high fat/high sugar snacks (chocolate/crisps etc) as an answer to mid meal hunger.

But all added up and crucially over years and years the weight went up and up....

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Tiredanddistracted · 11/06/2023 15:33

saltinesandcoffeecups · 11/06/2023 15:27

OP, just because he made you the breakfast doesn’t mean you have to eat it. Yes you’ll have to use willpower, but you needed to use that to decide on banana and toast to begin with.

I think what you are missing in the advice on this thread is that people see you struggling and have probably been there themselves. Drastic changes in regular diets rarely work for long. The real key is to find the balance between the different choices that you are doing and also incorporating making the same choice but differently. (I.e. eating half the fry up instead everything).

You are coming across as really fed up and angry here including lashing out at other posters. That’s not ok to do either your family or other people because you are struggling. I suspect that this morning wasn’t the first time you were short or shouty at your DH. And I’d guess that’s why he had the reaction that he did.

maybe I’m all wrong with my take on the situation, but I’m betting there are more right bits than wrong ones. Well done with your progress so far and I do hope you find the balance that you’re looking for.

Did you read the OP's earlier transcript of the conversation? Admittedly, these things are never 100% accurate as recollections are never perfect, but she didn't seem shouty. The emotional response seems to have cone from him.

Also, she DID use her willpower and didn't eat the fry up. This is what caused her DH's emotional response.

Personally I think the OP has been quite restrained in her replies to the myriad examples of unsolicited dieting advice here.

ChrisPPancake · 11/06/2023 15:34

SecretEater23 · 11/06/2023 14:47

The conversation went exactly like this

Me: right, I'm off out with the dog, going to swing by the shop and get bananas, I fancy banana on toast for breakfast when I get back.

Later

DH: I thought you'd like a bit of a treat, I've made a fried breakfast

Me: I really don't want that, I've got bananas, I'm going to have banana on toast, I did say, that. See if the kids want some of it

DH: I can't believe you're being so ungrateful, I'm trying to do a nice thing, I'm fed up with the constant picking over eating (it's not like that at all, I'm just making better choices).

Me: I'm not being ungrateful, you're the one who's out of order not listening to what I want

DH: you really don't want this? Opens food bin and tips it all away

Me: gives him both barrels about being unsupportive and who the fuck does he think he is to ignore my wishes and dictate what I eat.

Skulks off to watch TV, his plate going cold on the worktop.

I didn't post this earlier beacause I realise it's a massive red flag for controlling behaviour and didn't want to have to spend time insisting that he really is a good husband and a great dad and this is quite uncharacteristic behaviour

Ah. Take back my earlier snippiness then. Only in your previous post somewhere you said you has been the one that binned it and food waste really winds me up.

He's a prick.

I still think (95+% meat) grilled sausage with mushrooms and tomatoes is a better breakfast than banana on toast though!

Tiredanddistracted · 11/06/2023 15:35

SecretEater23 · 11/06/2023 15:31

I definitely wouldn't say I have "disordered eating" issues.

I'm in my mid 40s, perimenopausal in a full time job where I don't move enough, eating a few too many custard creams of an evening with a cup of tea, drinking a few too many glasses of wine a week, reaching for high fat/high sugar snacks (chocolate/crisps etc) as an answer to mid meal hunger.

But all added up and crucially over years and years the weight went up and up....

Absolutely. Eating a few too many snacks is not disordered eating.

I have disordered eating and it's not what you describe in your OP. My partner is thankfully very supportive of the steps I'm taking to sort it. So, actually, a sulky response would not be justified even if you did.

WomanOfSteel · 11/06/2023 15:36

WhichWitchWillBeWhich · 11/06/2023 14:13

And no bananas (bananas are no better than a mars bar, the body converts both to sugar and practically nothing else).

Ha ha ha gotta love Mumsnet.

The thing is, I read stuff like the above and think fuck it, might as well have a mars bar. Then it creeps into other areas. There was once a thread on here where people didn’t eat carrots as they had too much sugar in them. It’s bizarre.

Namechangedagain20 · 11/06/2023 15:36

Freefall212 · 11/06/2023 15:09

I think it is unfair to impose a diet on other members of the household. Especially when your decisions as to what can or can't be eaten on said diet / restrictive eating plan aren't really nutiritionally sound.

If he wants sausage and eggs for breakfast and for the kids - he can make it. If you want to nibble on bread and a banana instead then do so but he doesn't need to change his eating habits because you have changed yours.

Did you even read the OP? She didn’t restrict what he was having. She said SHE was having bananas on toast. He made her a fry up, she didn’t want it. She hasn’t told him he has to have anything different, or the kids, just that she is eating differently. He is ignoring what she wants and imposing his food wishes on her.

SecretEater23 · 11/06/2023 15:36

I'm actually really happy. I've lost 7kg, feel like it's a sustainable long term change, feel great, lots of fresh air and sunshine. Starting to talk about park run later in the summer with my 14 year old.

I'm irritated a little at the dieting and nutrition advice that I've not asked for

But I'm irritated a lot at the notion that I should do something I don't want to do in place of something that I've been clear about simply to keep the peace with my husband.........

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speakout · 11/06/2023 15:36

My ex was like you OP.

I love to cook, and while we were together he gained an enormous amount of weight.
You don't have to eat the food, or large quanities of what others have cooked.
I liked to make large amounts, useful for feezing, having leftovers or unexpected guests.

OH and I had a sit down and heart to heart, I wanted to help him, so started making meals that were low fat, low calorie, healthy.

Without fail he would come home with the smell of chocolate on his breath.
Why should I put myself out if he was eating on the sly.

Ultimately we are all responsible for what we shove down our throats.
I have little sympathy OP.
You can cook for yourself, eat just a little of what OP prepares with a large salad on the side.
Your OP is not responsible for your intake. That is on you.

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