to sometimes think that I am the most feminist person here?

[stubbornhubby]

I have been on MN for only a short time and I have to say it is fun I like it here.

but I do despair: I sometimes seem to be the most feminist person here! Almost every thread seems to have women willingly subjugating themselves to their "D" Hs Ps Cs and ILs. Washin and Ironin and Pickin Up, being treated terribly but 'deserving' it (and DH rarely means it), happily changing names, wearing rings, and doing what the vicar tells them.

Or AIBU?

I do the cooking and cleaning because I'm better at it than DH. He puts the petrol in the cars, digs the garden and puts up shelves because I can't be arsed he's better at it than me. Does this mean I've failed the test?

If he cooked and cleaned, and I dug the garden, would I have passed?

Feminists? Let's see...

Dittany. ImSoNotTelling. LeninGrad. And several other posters who are regulars on the Feminist section.

I consider myself a feminist, and I absolutely love reading the Feminist threads, and the contributions from the above posters. Don't have the courage to post myself though

Welcome to MN. Hope you're wearing flame-proof body armour as you are shortly going to be flamed and knocked down a peg or two...

Oh, and yes, YABVU.

I'm witholding sexual favours because DH hasn't bought me anything with diamonds in it since DS was born. He doesn't seem to have noticed though - just thinks we're both tired. All my other friends got jewellery for having DC's.

Nice one LEQ.

must try that next time (although i am currently refusing to give birth until DH has done the bathroom, don't know how much leverage i can apply in a single instance...)

I was at Greenham and I Embraced the Base and Reclaimed the Night and and qenerally marched and chantesd. i sdn;t think Pole dancing is empowering or a valis form of exercise. I think that women should not change their name on marriage and should be universally Ms at times when a honorific is appropriate.

Qm I allowed into the bated community that is feminism?

it's not my balloon i have to worry about bursting....

so far it has got me a new set of kitchen units and a built-under washer dryer.

i was going to post a picture once its all finished and ask if it is appropriate to find a man more sexually attractive for demonstrating superior DIY skills.

I think it is. and he's so happy whilst he's doing it.

See, I don't agree that Dittany is the 'biggest feminist' on MN, although she is very committed and overt in her views, and I respect that. It seems to imply that there are degrees of feminism, and that you can be a feminist, but fall short somehow. I think that there are different strains of feminism, and that Dittany represents one very well, but that there are other posters who are just as committed to fighting sexism, but don't take the same view on strategy, if you like, but still want to see an end to women's oppression.

I rather doubt that the OP is the biggest feminist here too, on the same logic, but I can see why he might have the impression that many women put up with a lot of shit.

I was also going to ask if you've come across Dittany yet but obviously not or you wouldn't be asking this question

oops, x-posted with BoF

But do you think, BoF, that 'Dittany' would think she is the biggest feminist on MN? On the grounds that no one else comes up to her standard of zeal?

Now why on earth did I do that... I meant to say Dittany and used the wrong flippin marks!

I'll get me coat...

Thumbwitch, no, I don't think she would say that. But I think that she would probably hate seeing feminism and fighting sexism to being solely restricted to entirely being in accordance with her own opinions- I know she loves a good debate!

She does too..

um. i've been on a few threads that might not give quite that opinion...
dittany is certainly fond of feminist debate though lol, which is why when anyone mentions the f word, she generally pops up. where is she?

quite agree that dittany does not deserve the title 'biggest feminist on mn' though. most prominent, yes. hence all the refs . including from me.

OP: YABU. Feminists don't split their infinitives.

This is why many women dislike the term 'feminist' because it seems that you have to act a certain way in order to be one, and if you don't then you are mens lapdog etc i thought feminism was about getting equal opportunity/rights and treatment for women AND allowing women to be able to make choices they want in life.

If their choice involves willingly subjugating themselves to their "D" Hs Ps Cs and ILs. Washin and Ironin and Pickin Up, happily changing names, wearing rings, and doing what the vicar tells them then so be it it is their CHOICE and to tell the truth you are no more a feminist than a SAHM who says she is also a feminist.

Erm...wearing a ring & changing names is nothing to do with 'not being feminist'!

And actually, even tho I am not one, I think I am the most feminist here, because I often do jack shit around my house & right now dh is mopping & hoovering & I am sitting on my arse doing nothing!

But maybe he is henpecked instead!

It isn't a fecking competition!