scots supporting england!

[glasgowmandy]

my whole family are die hard scots, and every single one of them is bashing england to loose the cup, i dont understand it, i hope they do their best and will support them all the way! arnt we all british supporters??

if i talk about it to any of them they are horrified, just this afternoon, my brother was saying he thinks im upsetting dad with supporting them.. oh my god its football, get a grip!!

well come on england!!

fed up with the tight wallet 'jokes', even my Polish friend makes them!

It's perfectly understandable if Scotland don't want to join in actively supporting England, but I do think there is no need to be quite so actively nasty about it, to the point of supporting whoever is playing England. Can't they just pretend something else is happening that evening?

Or, if they want, they could rig the pub up with a big screen and play some old glories of recordings from the last time Scotland did OK in the World Cup.

That is if anyone can get the Betamax player working.

wigglybeezer well said!

you can come over to mine for supper and meet my friends if you need a reprieve

I cannot imagine who you are mixing with that calls you a smelly sock

UnquietDad - shame on you - that was low (even for an englishman... ahemmm!!)

Actually it's like the english attitude to the French. Growing up in Scotland I never heard any ant French sentiment. In fact we always felt an alliance with them. Moved to the South of England and was surprised at the comments etc. Lost count of meetings, courses, someone managed somehow to get a dig in.

If you watch the rugby in Edinburgh city centre you usually find that the english supporters are in the majority!

Just for the record - I have been spat on by english people for my scottish accent, my Bank of Scotland money not accepted in England, sympathised with because "i've seen trainspotting and am sorry how you guys live"...I could go on.

I'm not denying that english get abuse off the scots but in no way is it a one way street!!

A lot of anti scots threads on mumsnet recently I have noticed.

Here's a good one. Last European Cup I was in my SILs house watching and actively supporting England, as I loathe Christiano Ronaldo and thought he behaved badly to get Rooney sent off. Her neighbour said to me, "Why are you supporting us, you're not even English? Jump on many band wagons do ya?"

Nice.

yeah, but at least we know what a real fish and chip shop is! .

What's with a Chines chippy? I miss chip shops that sell 'everything' under the sun!

To say that you want your team to do better than others is positive and good. To say that you want other teams to do worse than yours is a very negative attitude. I would have difficulty in liking people with that attitude.

I support England. I also want the other home nations to do well. Many of my friends and neighbours are Irish, Scottish or Welsh, and it would make them happy to be succsessful, and I want my friends and neighbours to be happy.

Spread love not hate.

I'll throw in anti-Americanism. I've noticed rather a lot of that on MN.

So are we saying that English people generally want the home nations to do well but Welsh, Scottish & Irish people don't give a stuff about the English team?

Why do you think that is?

Please stop talking about chippys! I really want a roll and chips with broon sauce for my tea now!

TiggyD it's a little more complex than simply being neighbourly. Enjoying seeing your rivals lose is just as much part of footballing culture as wanting your own team to win. And when it comes to international football you can throw history and politics into the mix too.

Ireland fans generally enjoy seeing England lose and beating England themselves. Ditto Scotland. Ask a Dutch football fan, or even a Dutch person, how they feel about their neighbours, Germany. And don't expect to see too many Croats supporting Serbia or vice versa...

or even Chinese chippy!

Surely they sell pickled onions? Certainly in the North?
Batter is much nicer than fish in breadcrumbs anyway.

Brown sauce on chips is just wrong.

mozette I'd say it's a mixture of history, politics and perception of media coverage and bias.

However, Altinkum, the Chinese takeaways in London sell crispy seaweed and crispy duck and I miss it like mad

Altinkum, maybe it should be an ishooooo cos it is legal tender after all. You wouldn't see us tight scots refusing the english pound I can tell ye.

Anyhoo i'm with TiggyD we should be spreading the love not hate. There's nothing like a game of football to bring out the bigotry (and sexism, racism, alcholism, wife beating..)

Letthereberock it's so wrong its right - especially a good vinegary brown sauce from Edinburgh mmmmm

noyoucant thanks for answering

8Ace, technically they are not legal tender in the UK. Nor are the notes produced by banks in Northern Ireland (Ulster Bank, Northern Bank, First Trust Bank, Bank of Ireland).

Only Bank of England notes are legal tender in the UK.

www.bankofengland.co.uk/banknotes/about/faqs.htm#16

That said from my experience a lot more shops in Britain now accept Northern Irish notes than when I was growing up.