to be annoyed at the smugness of people living on a shoetsring

[headlessandclueless]

i probably am.
mumsnet is full at the moment of people going on about how little money we have and how wonderful we are. or at least it seems that way to me.
what so superior about that? and even more so if you are a single parent? unless you are a widow, you made a choice to be a single parent, knowing full well that meant less money. yes, i know that in some cases of domestic violence, its not really a choice, but, it seems that in most cases i have seen on mn, its simply a case of, 'not being happy' with the partner.
whatever, if it makes you happier, fine, but stop harping on about how skint you might be, and how other people have too much money.

rant over.

I've never had it.

Don't ever give it to the kids though, espesh not anywhere near bedtime.

The best baklava I have found in London is in the shop opposite Queen's Ice and Bowl in Bayswater. The stuff at Selfridges is pretty good but massively overpriced.

When I worked in an area of Glasgow which has a large Asian population I had four three pieces of it every morning for breakfast. So many shops sold it that I never had a problem finding it.

Unfortunately I haven't found anywhere that sells it locally.

Did you have it with a shot of turkish coffee LTBR? Got to love a drink that increases your heart rate before you even drink it.

Oh god I can't leave this thread alone.

Being skint doesn't not make you a better person?

WTF does that mean? Who said it did? In any case I'm skint and I'm not skint. It really depends on who I compare myself with. I'm a fantastic person in lots of ways and a bloody awful one in others. Sorry OP, I just don't 'get' you.

I understand, Pag ; it's the simplistic take that it always going to be wrong.

Pistachio is the best.

I quite like the one that's topped with something similar to strands of shredded wheat rather than filo pastry. I'm not sure what it's called.

if you go looking for something, you'll find it.

be it smugness or perceiving someone having a pop at you, etc.

better to try to find something more positive, isn't it?

With coffee yes.Unfortunately not with Turkish coffee. I'll have to try that next time I'm in the area.

No need to have a pop at me Expat!

I love baklava - haven't had it for ages - although it does make my teeth ache.
LAst place I had it was the Greek Vine restaurant in Claygate - a lovely venue for parties/hen nights, where the waiters smash plates and everyone gets up to do the Greek dance.

ok - it's thread promoting but I don't care my opinion on the subject

Shut up, shut up, shut up and make the noise stop!

That was an incredibly shitty OP and wtf is wrong with being a wee bit self-congratulatory if you can make your limited income stretch far? I'd rather hear someone boast about how much they saved by doing X,Y,Z than hearing someone boast about how much foie gras and Pimms they plough through each week.

And if you think that bereavement and domestic violence are the only legitimate causes for being a lone parent then you need to fucking wise-up.

Utter bollocks.

the issue i have with single mums is that they are easy targets for the worst of misogyny that is present in our society.

no one ever mentions the irresponsible horn dog who goes round fathering loads of kids and abandoning them.

no one ever suggests long-term contraception or sterilisation for him.

prison's too good for hte likes of men like that, though.

yeah they're judge me until the cows come home expat..........but they won't be so ready to judge my DS's "father" who lives round the corner and doesn't do anything for them and has only seen them once since we split

I actually think I understand where op is coming from, but that it is badly phrased.

When my dad left and my mother was single, we moved to a one bed flat for (then!) £25 a week. We were SKINT. It had a lot to do with an overextended mortgage that they had defaulted on, I think, because they were both teachers so they shouldn't have been in the red as much as they were. I remember we used to search for coins around the edges of the carpet to go to the shop for bread and milk, hide behind the sofa if there was a knock on the door in case it were bailiffs.. you get the picture.

It was dire.

Now, I am a 'wealthy' person with a family income of 53ishK who can shop in M and S if I choose and fly home to Ireland when I want. But I am still royally irked by the fact that I can't afford a modest three bed house despite being in a double incomed home. I am even more peeved that despite all my mother's attempts to ensure I was 'financially independent' so I didn't find myself in the situation she did should my dh ever leave/die etc that I am not, despite being highly qualified and on a professional wage.

Come on folks who are skint, it ain't purty. I do read threads where people with no money make out that it's fine to feed/clothe/house a family of 4 on 20K in the SE and of course all these people on 45K could too. Bollocks to that, I say. It's rubbish. Just because people who earn more wish they had a bit more financial security does not mean that they are spendthrift cappucino drinkers, it just means their version of 'rubbish' is different to yours. They are entitled to moan on too, in the same way that the fact that there are millions in the world coping with multiple disabilities and going to bed hungry in war zones across the world, without even clean running water or access to basic healthcare does not mean it's not shit to not have decent benefits for the disabled in our society.

[drool] sounds gorgeous riven, will hunt it down ,

Sigh. Why isn't there an edit facility?

This:
" I do read threads where people with no money make out that it's fine to feed/clothe/house a family of 4 on 20K in the SE and of course all these people on 45K could too"

should read:

"I do read threads where people with no money make out that it's fine to feed/clothe/house a family of 4 on 20K in the SE and of course all these people on 45K could too if they weren't so hell-bent on eating fancy pastries and wearing designer shoes and laughing in the face of the poor."

LetThereBeRock

I think what you're describing is cataifi - pronounced ca-ta-ee-fee

yum

I am absolutely sick and tired of people having a go at single Mums. I've 3 close friends who have recently become one and in every case they have had no choice whatsoever, it's been down to cancer, male midlife crises with a bit of domestic violence chucked in for good measure.They are left picking up the pieces and just trying to make life Ok for their children who without exception have been affected by what's happened. That is the little girl who saw her Dad throw her Mum across the room, screams every night and is terrified of her Mum having a new relationship as she's worried about what her Dad will do. Or the girl whose Dad couldn't wait fir her Mum to get back before telling her he was leaving which he did outside the chip shop then buggered off inside to get the tea leaving her sobbing in the car. She is now being incredibly rude to teachers and is heading down the route of being marked as a bully. Or the little girl who gad to lean on her Mum to manage to walk out behind her Dad's coffin who then couldn't sleep on her own for 6 months.

That's just my immediate close friends round where I live, there's plenty more at the DC's school with similar stories.

Too right OP - goddam those single mothers and disadvantaged people that manage to muddle by on sod all, scrimping, saving, sacrificing and just about existing.

Who do they think they are?