to think this girl should have worn the headscarf in the mosque?

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Her mother sounds like a lovely tolerant woman (not).

yanbu

she and her mother are clearly thick, ignorant racist bitches.

Stupid woman! And "dress like a muslim". As if, until very recently women wouldn't have been required to cover their heads and legs in a Catholic church too. St Paul has something to say about the subject iirc. So hardly discriminating against Christians.

Some people just like attention.

before anyone mentions it, i know IABU to link to the DM. I was just so shocked that they seemed to report this in a vaguely positive way.

YANBU - Stupid woman.

St Paul was a bit of a nobber though wasn't he?

Didn't realise I had been forced to 'dress like a Greek Orthodox' person every time I covered my head, legs and shoulders when visiting Greek churches on holiday, am WELL AGGRIEVED now!

It's just irresponsible for anyone to publish such ignorant and uninformed crap, irrespective of the racism.

A friend went to Rome, and she wasn't allowed in to the sistine chapel because her dress was too short..she went and bought a pair of trousers to hastily put on beneath the dress and was then allowed to enter....should have gone to the daily mail instead

Bet they just wanted their pictures in the paper,

In my grandmother's generation all women covered their hair when they went to church.

I've seen women turned away from a Spanish Catholic church for inappropriate dress.

I think it was just an attention seeking ploy on the part of the mum. Some people like to make a big deal out of nothing. Why would she go to the papers regarding this? Unless her daughter is off school a lot, one mark wouldn't exactly be a major deal would it. It could always be explained away.

I wonder however, if it was the mosque that insisted on the dress code -specifically the headscarf. Or whether the school thought it would be a good idea (walk a mile type of thing)? If she had turned up and said, I didn't want to wear a scarf would the mosque have said nope you can't come in.

I'd be more concerned with the phrasing "voluntary contribution" tbh

yanbu but I was roffling at the headmaster's letter:

'the school is REQUIRED to promote tolerance respect and understanding. This is known as community cohesion.
'A failure to do this could result in an unwelcome inspection judgement. None of us would relish that. '

'The second is that the school is REQUIRED to promote tolerance respect and understanding. This is known as community cohesion.

The school is REQUIRED

'A failure to do this could result in an unwelcome inspection judgement. None of us would relish that

Unwelcome inspection judgement

Are they forcing the girl to do something that goes against her faith so they dont get an unwelcome inspection judgement?

What a stupid woman. She isn't 'dressing like a Muslim' she's showing some respect.

I've been to Catholic christenings and been asked to wear a hat/headscarf (not catholic so don't know if that's still common place).
If she went to the Vatican she would be asked to cover her head - would that be offensive to her as well I wonder?

'as if, until very recently women wouldn't have been required to cover their heads and legs in a Catholic church too.

This is not correct in england. You are very out of date. I have not seen a woman covering her head in an RC church since I was a little girl. I am now 46. My SIL turned up to my wedding rehearsal wearing cycling shorts, which I thought was taking the piss, tbh, but nobody said a word to her. Not a word.

Another woman I know, a teacher in her forties, sometimes appears in longer shorts, too.

Caged - i think it said the mosque circultated the list. Seems pretty standard to me? That photo is slightly terrifying however.

Oh what a silly cow. Fab attitude to teach your child. dick head

You must have respect before you can get it

the £3 was probably towards the coach if they went by school coach.

As a Muslim I have visited churches both as a child at school and as an adult to support my catholic friends during weddings and also funerals. So that argument by the lovely mother about how many muslim children go to churches is redundant.
My children go to an Islamic school, part of their education entails visiting other places of worship, including churches, and the children would be expected to be polite, and very mindful of the requirements that the priest had stipulated beforehand.

'Are they forcing the girl to do something that goes against her faith so they dont get an unwelcome inspection judgement? '

Last time i looked wearing a headscarf and trousers were not against the christian faith.

studying the Moslem faith does not go against anyone's Catholic faith (only practising it does).

One of the reasons we have so much religious intolerance in the world is because people aren't required to study other faiths.

Thankfully in RE in this country we study them properly.

She was really objecting to having to visit the mosque rather than just study it in the classroom. That's what I read in the underlying tone of the article.

Of course, but that's scousers for you.

Jason - no they aren't, it isn't against Christianity to put on a headscarf and go into a mosque

Jason - it doesn't go against the girl's faith to cover her head. There's nothing in Christianity against it, it's just that (these days) it's not a requirement.

ok, my idea of very recently is perhaps a bit old (I am a historian). When you were a little girl is what I would think of as recently

it certainly used to be a part of Catholic worship and still is in parts of the world, so portraying as somehow anti-Catholic seems bizarre

The head shouldn't have tried to force her to attend though. Dd's class had a recorder recital in a local church hall and many children didn't attend due to 'religious reasons' even though the teacher was quite cross as it was just a recital and not a church service. However, no-one made them attend and that's how it should be surely.

abr1de (are you the same person as 'abride'?), that's not right either. Depends on the Catholic church. I have been to a Catholic Church in England (admittedly, attached to a monastery) where we were told to cover our heads, and that was only about ten years ago. Many of the congregation were Polish, and I understand that this is commoner in Polish communities.

I think this girl and her mother were being incredibly rude. Really sad.