to think this girl should have worn the headscarf in the mosque?

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Her mother sounds like a lovely tolerant woman (not).

I certainly agree with the strange nature of this, Cory. I think this is an odd little story altogether, and the mother and daughter are trying it on.

yabu - you could have said it was a daily mail thread couldn't you....

The article says that the mosque liaison with the school asked for the dress code. I would only take issue with the request if they asked for the girls to wear burkas. Surely it is only a mark of respect that the girls cover up to the degree asked, looking at the way some girls dress for school they should be asked to cover up more often.

We're (evangelical - sort of!!) Christians.

My dd1 (10) had a trip to the mosque in Glasgow last year. She had to wear a long skirt or trousers and take a scarf to cover her head.

Why should I object? She was learning many valuable lessons about another world religion - I went on the trip as a parent helper! I wore plain black linen trousers ( was worried that jeans would offend - though it turned out they were fine!) and a headscarf of my own.

I've happily dressed in long skirts and head coverings to enter catholic churches (including Saint Peter's in Rome).

Anyone making a fuss about this is being racist, IMO!

You were in a monastery, that's rather different. And Poles are more conservative than the English.

I have never been to an 'ordinary' RC church in England (or Scotland) and seen anyone forced to cover up their heads, and I must have been to dozens!

YANBU. It's called being respectful, and yes, the mother comes across as a bit, erm, unhinged.

I'm sorry, I hope I wasn't rude on this thread, apologies, if so. It's just it seems that so many topics provide a reason for people to have a dig at Catholics. I know that wasn't what was meant here.

I am still feeling raw for being called an enabler of paedophiles a month or so back. Yes, I was/am abride. I sometimes switch spellings around to throw off a little 'follower' I had for a while! I have another very similar moniker too but you'll forgive me if I don't spell that one out just at the moment.

As I said, this woman and her daughter are just weird.

Oh, no, I didn't think you were rude! I thought they were being very silly. Imo, I would imagine most Catholics have a better understanding of their own faith than this, so I wouldn't consider them as exemplary Catholics either.

Btw, the church wasn't in the monastery, if that makes sense - it was basically on the same site but not in the enclosure.

I bet she's the kind of mum that always has a reason why school rules mustn't apply to her family, her dd must be allowed to wear what she likes, and bring her mobile into the classroom and eat junk in the middl of a lesson.

Bet the teachers love her.

hool trip to a Mosque and a Buddhist monastary with my son's class last year. The folk in the Mosque were so welcoming.

The children just wrapped their school scarves round their heads and wore school tracksuit pants. That was enough... no fuss needed.

They treated all of the children to drinks and crisps at the end of the visit.

I think visits like this are not only educational, they promote tolerence.

That girl missed out IMO.

That should have read... I went on a school trip to a Mosque....

What a pair of ignorant twunts. They might have their 15 seconds of fame now but it means that everyone knows how thick they are.

We had to cover up when in Thailand recently. Damn those fundementalsit Budhists. They'll soon be telling us how to run our schools.

Fransandisco (love the name) I think you're right actually, they shouldn't have been forced to attend but it is quite important for children to get an understanding of different faiths. It was obviously in response to their ofsted rating though. Wonder how this little upset will score with ofsted?

Just reread and saw the mosque did ask, but it reallly wasn't much of an ask was it a scarf and a longer skirt

If respecting someones culture whilst on a 'visit' to a place of worship, whether that be a church, mosque or gurudwara, means you'll be 'dressing like a {insert whatever religion}' - then the mother is just an ignorant racist twit who needs to put her teeth away...thats an awful picture of her! ewwwww

When I was at school during Religious Studies I visited a church, a mandir (Hindu), a Gurdwara (Sikh), a Mosque (Muslim) and a Synagogue (Jewish) and my parents NEVER objected and I am a better person for it!!

YANBU - showing a bit of respect is hardly a chore.

With regards to covering up in a Catholic Church in some countries its still expected. I wouldn't go to church with my shoulders uncovered or in anything shorter than the knee anyway.

If i was visiting the place of worship of another faith I would remove shoes, cover hair etc as required. I would also be grateful for the opportunity to learn about other cultures and beliefs.

They'll be the the type of family who I've seen walking around Egypt, Jordan and Thailand with legs and arms exposed because they wanted to get a tan.

In one place in Jordan the daughter had a on shorts and a bikini top and the mother complained everyone was staring

when my sons' class visited a mosque, he wore a scarf, as his hair is so long, a hat wouldn't cover it. He did this off his own bat, even though the teacher said a baseball cap was fine...

It drives me mad when people don't show respect.

When I was at school we went on a trip to a mosque, synagogue and evangelical Christian centre all in one day, without changing clothes. I had no idea at the time that I was being forced to dress as an evangelical Christian Jewish Muslim. In retrospect, of course I should have contacted the Daily Mail (in fact the Christian centre didn't have any specific dress codes, just the synagogue and mosque, so I suppose I was just being forced to dress as a Jewish Muslim, but even that would be twice as good as this story).

lol a the Jewish Muslim

Stupid bloody article. Nobody was told to dress like a Muslim. The mother is an idiot, you should expose your children to different religions and you should also teach them to have respect for the customs and beliefs of others.
I hope the mother looks in here, then we can point out that she is teaching her daughter to be as bigoted as she is.

YABU. One thing is to understand and tolerate other religions, one thing is being forced to wear the veil, which goes against the girl's human rights.
She stood up against a tradition which sees women treated as second-class citizens, and nowhere in the Koran does it say that women shoud wear the veil.
Good for her for making a stand, pity the rest of society is not ready for it yet (you're all proof of it, calling her mother a racist and other insults!).