my new boyfriend says he is going to vote BNP

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that's it really, I was really shocked and went into a bit of a rant. I can't believe someone I've been intimate with and been close to would vote bnp.

daftpunk - you only have to work in a school in a white working-class area of the UK to understand why working class males are at the bottom of the heap educationally. It's because they read crap, watch crap and eat crap. They don't value education and they are culturally starved of anything of value.

My dad was born onto a Dagenham council estate, one of six sons of a single mum. He was in the library reading Dickens at 12, left school at 14 to work as an office boy at a newspaper and attended night school in the evening to learn about literature. His mum used to take the lightbulb in his bedroom out in the evening to stop him from reading (and 'wasting' electricity).

How many working class men read anything other than tabloid crap these days? How many can play an instrument or speak another language, or cook anything other than shite food? Go to other countries and you often find working class people still have some culture worthy of the name. Not in the UK. We're fucked.

I blame the Americans. And Rupert Murdoch.

"Er, yeah...the prospect of free housing and a life on benefits does wonders for your metabolism."

But amazingly the offer of free education to 18 and a subsidised university education doesn't seem to tempt a lot of working class British men to achieve does it?

People in this country have opportunities to better themselves, but they're not interested.

We are fucked...but we can recover..

And we will..

Any way BACK TO BASICS (where did I hear that before)

OP you bloke is a worthless twat, unless you want a life of being a door mat move on.

Now who would like a nice cup of tea and a scone?

"I would want the best person for the job, the one most qualified and best suited to it, be they black, white, able bodied, heterosexual or homosexual, the best person with the best skill set for the job"

So the fact that now, and in the past white, middle-class men have dominated all the most desirable professions is a good indicator that they had the best skills for the jobs?

Or is it that there's already positive discrimination going on, but it's just unspoken?

Yeah, the poor white men, its not like they run everything is it...oh wait, it is!

If it wasn't for the pain it'd inflict on their poor kids, I would be wishing (NOT praying) for every bigot who tells their children homosexuality is wrong to one day hear the words "Mum/Dad, I'm gay".

I have a friend whose lifelong depression stems not from being gay, but from being brought up to believe it was wrong and knowing that their parents would never accept them. Hideous internal conflict.

tittybangbang and others your bigotry against the white working class is worse than anything the BNP say.
You should be concerned that a huge swathe of the UK population are underachieving.Contray to what you believe nearly everybody wants the best for their children.

That is not what I am saying at all Titty, if I was hiring and the best person with the best skill set was a white heterosexual man then he would get the job, if the best suited was a (how did DP term it?) a black disabled lesbian then she would get the job.

I would not give either a job on the basis of their colour, sexuality, and so on.

Best person for the job..absolutely..

Don't give someone a job just because they're black or disabled...that's patronizing for a start..

Women-only shortlists..?

Bollox...

But DP if the best person for the job was a black disabled lesbian and not you then they should get the job....

Of course they should get the job, if they're the best qualified, but they shouldn't get the job purely on the basis that they are black, or a lesbian or whatever...

Apart from anything else...how can you prove you're a lesbian..?

Can you please give an example of where someone has got a job simply because they are gay? Or disabled? Neither is there much proof of affirmative action in the US style.

Let me guess though, someone you know had a friend who knows for a fact that you only need to say you are gay to get a job! And you too could have a great career if only you were lucky enough to be in wheelchair!

Listen to yourself! You have been brainwashed. You have bought into the blame game that its all someone elses fault, namely the immigrants and gays.
Get a fucking grip and think about it.

DP - your racist claptrap is just so so tired.

IT HAS NEVER HAPPENED that a black disabled lesbian has been given a job ahead of a better qualified white hetero. Never other than in your diseased rantings.

What is really pernicious about this is that I suspect you do not believe that a black disabled lesbian could possibly be better at a job than a white hetero.

Well said SGM,

I grew up in a one parent family (me and sister same dad) on a council estate in Brent, I was white (still am last time I looked ) and I was a minority, almost all of my friends were of other colours, races, religions.
I would like to thank the tax payer for feeding and clothing me, putting me through school and keeping a roof over my head.
I did not make it to uni, I am never going to be the CEO of a major company...however I wanted better and I worked to achieve better, I have two children that their father and I raise, they have seen their father work every day of their lives, thay have seen me work, (part time since they were school age) they know if they want nice things they have to get an education and a good job,
Coming from a poor background is not an excuse to wollow in a poor me mentality that is a major problem in this country.
I wanted a nice home I worked bloody hard for it, I want my children to do the same and it is a case of monkey see monkey do in a lot of cases.

Oh my God....i just read daftpunk's link.....

Wow talk about shit

daily Christian assemblies;

The teaching of a full curriculum of British history. This will instil in our young people knowledge of and pride in the history, cultures and heritage of the native peoples of Britain, and not the cherry-picked politically correct drivel being fed to children today;

The abolition of fees and the restoration of full grants to university students studying proper subjects (as opposed to fake ?social sciences?);

ah hem...like politics

The ending of the scandalous and racist neglect that has left working class white boys at the bottom of the table for academic achievement;
hilarious

It is highly likely that the non-indigenous birth rate in Britain will exceed more than fifty percent of all births in this country,? the doctor said.

really? Based on...?

Seriously if you think their policies are bad you should read the comments. One person said the one thing people from the third world were good doing is breeding, must be because they listen to DP's catholic teachings.....

I am going to write my own manifesto and name it....this is bullshit, dressed up as scaremongering racist shit, but still bullshit all the same.

"This will instil in our young people knowledge of and pride in the history, cultures and heritage of the native peoples of Britain."

Excellent. Down with the Normans! Vikings OUT!

Exactly, tortoise. All ten of them that are left (once you've weeded out ALL the non-native invaders) will be super-stoked about our proud island history.

Will Mr Griffin be leaving in the history books the bit about how we (indigenous British peoples) went out in to the world and took land that was not ours> Waged war on well just about every body, sent holy men out to take our religion to the masses weather they wanted to convert to it or not???

Do you think the history will discuss all the non whites entitled to be here because the British Government invited them?

Daftpunk - seeing as you directed us to that link, I want to know exactly whivh part of the history teachings you believe are "politically correct drivel"?

He also says 20% of residents are....
"Britain is being colonised by the Third World, with at least twenty percent of the resident population either born overseas or descendants of foreign-born parents."

So he now thinks we should lose at least 1 in every five people?

Where does he get his figures?

It must help to have DM readers and people who can't read as his supporters but even so, are people really that naive?

Will BNPs history lessons teach us that Hitler was a very nice man and just a tad misunderstood?

"Contray to what you believe nearly everybody wants the best for their children"

Well yes. But sadly there are a lot of people who aren't willing to put any effort or sacrifice into GETTING the best for their children, and prefer to take the path of least resistance when it comes to - well, more or less everything.

I'd include myself in this group sadly. I would love my children to achieve very highly at school - they ought to as they're extremely bright. But I'm too bloody unfocused and disorganised to get my finger out and put the time in to properly help them with their work, and I can't afford private tutoring, so my kids are under achieving at the moment.

A lot of it comes down to sheer bloody minded effort and hard work on the part of parents, it really does. Or at least for those of us who can't afford to live in areas with good schools, or afford private education.

The easiest thing is to let your kids eat rubbish, watch rubbish on tv and play on the computer all day. Which is what a huge swathe of working class kids do, all day, every day, when they're not in class day-dreaming about being on X-factor.

I know the hard-working, organised mums at school and I admire them with every inch of my being.