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Hating the middle/upper classes

270 replies

Ryoko · 31/03/2010 16:34

I was brought up on a council estate, my dad worked full time, we got some benefits.

Work is hard to find (1 in 3 people in London is unemployed) the unskilled can't even get a job flipping burgers because the Uni educated are clogging up the jobs market.

Is it wrong for me to hate the upper/middle classes?

I live in a private rented accommodation now with my other half, we both work full time
and we will need state help to pay for the baby to go to nursery or to support me to stay at home.

All I hear from the middle/upper class is insults aimed at those on benefits or in council housing or just plain working class, calling us all scroungers, work shy, underclass etc, they seem convinced that living on benefits is great the poor are poor because they are lazy and are sponging off of them and that the poor should not be allowed to have kids if they need help from the tax payer to bring them up.

while moaning about how there tax money is given to the underclass they don't bat an eyelid at running multiple cars, jetting off on holidays, think that owning a home is a right not a privilege and spend obscene amounts of money on fashion, gadgets and the like.

Am I wrong to hate them as much as they hate us?

Do the middle / upper class no longer see the working class as the salt of the earth people because political correctness has stopped them blaming societies ills on other groups so the poor working class is the last easy target for them?.

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OrmRenewed · 31/03/2010 16:35

Ermmm I think you might be generalising a little here.

JustMoon · 31/03/2010 16:36
Biscuit
maduggar · 31/03/2010 16:37

I dont think they ALL hate you.

DemonChild · 31/03/2010 16:38

Are you from CUK? If so please have a

CountessDracula · 31/03/2010 16:38

I think you should stop reading the Daily Mail

LaurieFairyCake · 31/03/2010 16:38

But no one hates you?

You have a job, contribute to the economy, have a stable home life - what's to hate?

I think some right-wingers and twats hate 'benefit-scroungers' cos they're not bright enough to notice that those that reach the media are the most ridiculous stories exploited by a right-wing Daily-mailesque contingent.

Most people on 'benefits' are trying their damndest to survive and improve (just like everyone else).

OrmRenewed · 31/03/2010 16:39

i don't think ryoko is a CUKer. We spoke yesterday on a different non-trollery subject.

lockets · 31/03/2010 16:40

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Rockbird · 31/03/2010 16:40

"the unskilled can't even get a job flipping burgers because the Uni educated are clogging up the jobs market."

Random statement of the week maybe? How can one lot of people be clogging up the job market? If they need a job they are in the job market, aren't they? Weird...

I think you need a good long lie down and give your shoulder a rest from that chip.

runnybottom · 31/03/2010 16:42

Get a grip and stop thinking about other people. And sort your terminology out, its all over the place.

maduggar · 31/03/2010 16:43

How dare Uni educated people have jobs! Im outraged on your behalf!

DemonChild · 31/03/2010 16:43

I apologise. In which case .

And everyone should stop reading the Daily Mail, we'd all be a lot happier

EccentricaGallumbits · 31/03/2010 16:44

I hate the lower classes. all of them. even the nice ones.

Ryoko · 31/03/2010 16:49

I mean clogging up, because they are paying for Uni courses in jobs that they never get and employers will take them for a minimum wage position over someone who really needs the job more so the unskilled never get a look in.

I've only been employed for 2 and a half years before then I used to get insulted by people on the net forums when I said I was unemployed and I'm going to be getting benefits again (of some kind) soon when the baby is born so they will probably start insulting me again for that.

But why did it all change, why all the crap about Chavs.

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CountessDracula · 31/03/2010 16:49

Actually 4.5% of working age people are unemployed in London

stats here

So where you get the ridiculous statistic about 1 in 3 Londoners being unemployed from I have no idea (DM perchance?)

CountessDracula · 31/03/2010 16:51

(line 103 in case it is too tiring to look through all those figures)

maduggar · 31/03/2010 16:52

Now Chavs should be stoned to death. Along with you other lower class people.

CountessDracula · 31/03/2010 16:53

You are more likely to be insulted for being a bigot than on benefits here tbh

I thought chavs were people who spent money they didn't have on designer clothes and cheap gold jewellery

Not people on benefits

lockets · 31/03/2010 16:54

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Ryoko · 31/03/2010 16:55

It was mentioned on the BBC news the other day, they also said 70% of benefit fraud is done within the working tax credit system.

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CountessDracula · 31/03/2010 16:56

did they also mention that 87.5% of statistics are made up on the spur of the moment?

maduggar · 31/03/2010 16:56

Why dont you marry a rich man or get yourself a uni education?

ZZZenAgain · 31/03/2010 16:57

Well if you feel hated and hating back works for you, go for it but long term is that going to satisfy you?

"Do the middle / upper class no longer see the working class as the salt of the earth people because political correctness has stopped them blaming societies ills on other groups so the poor working class is the last easy target for them?"

you mean racism is not permitted so let's all bash the working class instead? I don't really think so, racism hasn't gone out of existence, has it? I don't know what period you a re thinking of when working class were considered the salt of the earth but I don't know if you are not looking with rosy spectacles at the past

Ryoko · 31/03/2010 16:58

"did they also mention that 87.5% of statistics are made up on the spur of the moment?"

No but then how do you know thats correct and the statistics for the statistics is not made up?

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CountessDracula · 31/03/2010 16:59

IT WAS A JOKE