Hating the middle/upper classes

[Ryoko]

I was brought up on a council estate, my dad worked full time, we got some benefits.

Work is hard to find (1 in 3 people in London is unemployed) the unskilled can't even get a job flipping burgers because the Uni educated are clogging up the jobs market.

Is it wrong for me to hate the upper/middle classes?

I live in a private rented accommodation now with my other half, we both work full time
and we will need state help to pay for the baby to go to nursery or to support me to stay at home.

All I hear from the middle/upper class is insults aimed at those on benefits or in council housing or just plain working class, calling us all scroungers, work shy, underclass etc, they seem convinced that living on benefits is great the poor are poor because they are lazy and are sponging off of them and that the poor should not be allowed to have kids if they need help from the tax payer to bring them up.

while moaning about how there tax money is given to the underclass they don't bat an eyelid at running multiple cars, jetting off on holidays, think that owning a home is a right not a privilege and spend obscene amounts of money on fashion, gadgets and the like.

Am I wrong to hate them as much as they hate us?

Do the middle / upper class no longer see the working class as the salt of the earth people because political correctness has stopped them blaming societies ills on other groups so the poor working class is the last easy target for them?.

"However does that make it right for those who have been lucky enough to get somewhere to complain about the tax they pay being used to support those less fortunate"

of course not, but it is wrong for you to assume that all middle class people do this.

Sky diving can't be anymore expensive than a pair of Nike trainers as beloved by some working class oiks.

Do you know, Ive been here nearly 6yrs and I never tire of these threads!

(Oh, I see, feel a bit silly now!)

Wouldn't constant sky diving give you nose bleeds?

what a horrible thread.

Ryoko, wind your neck in love.

Whatever you are trying to do is not big, nor is it clever.

I thi8nk it might not be good for you boobs.

Maybe also for your knees

And a flappy face?

re horse; I can never seem to tenderize beef properly anyway so probably safe to assume horse cooked by me would be tough.

I think the government needs to stop telling people porkies about Uni degrees, people need to learn that they will not get a job in IT paying 30k+ because they have done a course in it.

All this encouragement to education has done is made the degrees worth less and made it harder for the poor to get a job, someone with a degree in Latin and media studies is going to get a minimum wage job over a school leaver.

Anyway the point of my post was about all the middle class people spending silly money on things while moaning about the tax money they pay being given to the poor.

They should be ashamed this country would be in a right state if the poor where not supported and given help.

I'm thinking of the gravitational pull..

and then the jolt of landing

Ryoko, while I sympathise with your struggles, I can't help feeling that you would be better off using your energy to find creative solutions to your problems rather than creating sweeping generalisations to write off millions of people who you've never met.

For example, I know lots of well-educated, middle-class people who definitely do not earn lots of money, have no family inheritance, and struggle to make ends meet.

Do you not see the hypocrisy in your own statements? Lots of people have pointed it out already. You are complaining about the prejudiced sweeping generalisations which some middle/ upper class people make about the working class. Yet you are making prejudiced sweeping generalisations in order to make this complaint. With this in mind, do you really expect people to take you seriously?

ha ha, so if i go sky-diving, im middle class? yeehaw!

Bogan2, the only time I have tasted horse it did not taste like beef, it tasted very sweet (like meete marinated in strawberry juice)and was actually quite disgusting (to me anyway!) I never wished to renew the experience.(sick face)

How very dare the middle class spend money on things they enjoy while you keep having babies you cant afford!

brogan2: use a bit of class stereotyping to tenderise your horse meat; it'll work a treat! (mmm...horse en croute: slurp!)

I think OP doesn't have a degree because shes more than a little dim, rather than lack of funds.

Nice one OP....who really talks like that?

meat marinated in strawberry juice....

I couldnt give a fook what class I am in, me and dh help to contribute to the economy in both work and personal lives, I have family who adore me and friends who think im barney lol, seriously why do you bother getting heat up about mindless snap shot mindless statements!

If your happy in your job and personal life why does it matter what some mindless comment.

I went to university
Where's me horse???
I feel hard done to goddamit

OP I think you may find that many graduates are deemed overqualified for many jobs... certainly true ime.

My parents didn't have a bean when I went to university, I worked to support myself.

But then I have no idea what class I am, working class background but have degree and nice car now, so I have no idea whether or not the OP hates me, so I see no further need to justify myself

Right, just one rise,

A genuine question, maybe two for you Ryoko,

1)If you are struggling that much why are you having a baby? Another mouth to feed and yes, another person for others to support.

2. Why do you not move out of London where your rent may be cheaper?

3. Why not either you or your partner look into some form of training?

4)You are aware aren't you that plenty of people on here actually grew up in real poverty (myself included) yet I made the decision that I could either carry on in the same mould or take it upon myself to break the cycle.

at beef in strawberry juice. Yuck!

Your last post tells me you got the exact feeling of what it tastes like!

I had chicken with apricots once. That was disgusting too.

To me, fruit only really lends itself to ice-cream and crumble.