Hating the middle/upper classes

[Ryoko]

I was brought up on a council estate, my dad worked full time, we got some benefits.

Work is hard to find (1 in 3 people in London is unemployed) the unskilled can't even get a job flipping burgers because the Uni educated are clogging up the jobs market.

Is it wrong for me to hate the upper/middle classes?

I live in a private rented accommodation now with my other half, we both work full time
and we will need state help to pay for the baby to go to nursery or to support me to stay at home.

All I hear from the middle/upper class is insults aimed at those on benefits or in council housing or just plain working class, calling us all scroungers, work shy, underclass etc, they seem convinced that living on benefits is great the poor are poor because they are lazy and are sponging off of them and that the poor should not be allowed to have kids if they need help from the tax payer to bring them up.

while moaning about how there tax money is given to the underclass they don't bat an eyelid at running multiple cars, jetting off on holidays, think that owning a home is a right not a privilege and spend obscene amounts of money on fashion, gadgets and the like.

Am I wrong to hate them as much as they hate us?

Do the middle / upper class no longer see the working class as the salt of the earth people because political correctness has stopped them blaming societies ills on other groups so the poor working class is the last easy target for them?.

I thought we were playing

[Is it too early for a proper G&T? Sits back comfortably...]
Where were we, oh yes, down with the lower classes, burn the chavs and Daily Mail, what else?
Anyhoo, carry on.

"did they also mention that 87.5% of statistics are made up on the spur of the moment?"

"No but then how do you know thats correct and the statistics for the statistics is not made up? "

I think that CD was making a joke.

I know Elle! Ive been laughing at that from the start.
This simply cannot be real.

I was merely pointing out the horses to show that her mother has money, she was not a struggling student she went sky diving 4 times a year.

My grand father owned a shop and drove a Bentley.

I am well aware that it's easier to fall down to the gutter then it is to work up to the top.

However does that make it right for those who have been lucky enough to get somewhere to complain about the tax they pay being used to support those less fortunate?

It's very easy for people to say go to uni to better yourself but your missing the point again, you need money to do that, how do you get money if you can't find a job, family has no assets and you rely on JSA?

PMSl at the statistics on this thread and the calculations - how m uch of a horse am I entitled to if I didn't finish my course?

Anyone else finding horse burgers too continental?

The message of this thread seems to me to be mainly: unskilled jobs are the traditional domain of the working class. If nobs take those jobs, there is nothing left for the working class except to go on benefits and for that the middle classes have a go at them. This is unfair.

Well OP what is the way forward then? We can't have "working class applicants only" tags for certain jobs. How would that work? We also cannot send everyone to uni and if we somehow did manage it, couldn't find skilled jobs for them all - and then we would need to bring in workers from elsewhere etc etc. I don't see what you have in mind really.

now Bentleys are chavvy

Student loan and less whinging helps.

You know in the scheme of things horses are pretty cheap
Compared to for eg cars
you can pick up a crappy pony for £500

Don't mind us on the horses, MN threads always go off on a tangent.

Plenty of working class people at universities. It is going to get harder when we get stiff fees though and that does seem to be the way it is going

Chav does not mean that.

It is the Romany word for child. So has nothing to do with class or council houses etc.

Get on the pill. Get out of London. Stop bloody whinging and get that sack of spuds off your shoulder!

what would you want a crappy pony for?

Are you back at the burgers now?

YABVU. I'm middle class but only because my grandparents and parents worked extremely hard to get themselves out of terrible poverty.

I graduated in the last few years and I can assure you that there are plenty of working class young people going to uni. And I went to one of the top 10 universities in the country. I met people from all walks of life.

Don't make generalisations. Two of my best friends at the school private school I went to lived on very rough council estates but had scholarships. One is now a solicitor and the other a teacher - both middle class now.

This has to be a joke.

This thread is taking some fairly random turns.
"She went skydiving 4 times a year"??
Have you had a sherry?

Ive always wondered what horse tastes like?

Kangaroo tastes funny.

Horse tastes like beef
or buffalo

ITTT, that's only to be expected when they're not real!

hi there cd

Is it tough? Ive always thought it would be tough?

whozat?

I'm middle class but have been raised on a council estate and in house with no toilet and bath. I think you are being unreasonable to make assumprions about the middle classes, but the upper classes are fair game ;)

I don't remember it being tough

moi

wouldn't it depend on the horse though, age, lifestyle etc (how often it has been sky-diving with you, that type of thing)