In thinking Mumsnet is not what it was?

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I have been a poster here for seven years, my first post was asking for help after a DX on DS1 regarding medication, I was overwhelmed by the amount of people who took the time to respond and give advice and share stories.
I remember there being a lot of jokes and support, one poster who lost family in 9/11 was an inspiration and at any time day or night there was someone about for a chat, it made night feed more fun.

Yes there were times when people "fell out" this is life, and the odd nut job who tried to convince people that 4 times the amount of calpol was safe but on the whole it was a nice place to be, however just lately (mostly since AIBU was added) it seems people are getting really nasty.

No longer can you have a good debate with out the usual stupidness and name calling, if you question immigration there is no debate you just get called racist, people with problems get called troll, the term Jog on is used daily as is daily mail reader, and I ask myself when did this site become a playground with the childish name calling, where are all the grown up, funny, articulate women who you could have a grown up discussions with.

It is so boring seeing the same old faces spouting the same old crap lines.

I guess someone will say if I don't like it leave, and I just might do that as mumsnet is not the place it was

3 days I fucking wish, I'm not flouncing = I'm using real life support (wherever the fuck that is) rather than relying on a forum, as people shouldn't be using an online forum support even if they've nobody fuck else to talk to.

I like to think it's a series of new faces spouting the same old crap lines.

And have you noticed policemen have got younger too? And some policemen are even women!! Hell in a handcart, used to be able to leave your front door with a clip around the ear during national service for only a shilling dribble grumble feed the budgie vera lynn mutter mutter mutter.....

OP, I completely agree with you...I think maybe AIBU and since we went mainstream, got in the nastier tabloids every five minutes, etc etc has attracted loads of eejits.

Don't get me wrong - still plenty of lovely people here, really nice people, but I do get the feeling many of them are trapped in a place that has changed dramatically and no longer feels like home - though it's still better than a lot of forums.

It just doesn't feel like it did, and of course that is inevitable but it doesn't make it Ok.

Glastonbury springs to mind - it's called popularisation and it killed glastonbury, and it's killing MN too.

I still haven't found an alternative on which to waste time of a boring weekday, but I am increasingly reluctant to come here...it's more a feeling of 'is there really nowhere else' than 'oh good I can sit on MN for a while'

not pleasant and makes me feel sad, but I think now is the time to jump ship if you haven't already. It's going to the dogs. And people like Tiggy down the page are a super example of this.

Do you know what I miss the most...being able to talk about Cod! there, I've said it...Cod Cod Cod Cod Cod!

[wistful]

yy i know she's still here

but I miss her being visible iygwim, none of this subterfuge

no way round it of course but another example of it all going wrong poor Coddy

It's posts like that sp that really annoy me. It's not 'going to the dogs' just because it's not what you once knew. I've been here 3 years which I think is a reasonable amount of time and even in that time it has certainly changed. But it's incredibly self centred to say that it's all gone tits up because the oldies don't like it any more. It'd be pretty dull if it was the same posters, same format as it was seven years ago and not a very good business for Carrie and Justine. I thought we'd got over all this with the Great Christmas Saga of 2008.

As for not getting support if you're not known, I've had three major incarnations here, no one knows who the hell I am, but I get loads of support whenever I've asked for help. There is still nowhere else like this for serious support in a child related crisis, which after all was it's original remit.

I guess people have three choices; either go and leave us to it, stay and stop whinging or make an effort to improve things. This sort of chest beating thread is pointless.

There endeth the sermon

Cod is really obvious. Even when she changes her name you can spot her almost straight away. It's her "unusual" posting stylee..

yabu - its an internet site. bovvered.

Everything changes over time and it is a good thing-an 'old guard' going on about how it 'used to better,'isn't something you want IMO. Things become stagnant without new blood. I have been posting for quite a long time and people have always been very unpleasant, if you challenge their core beliefs.

I think MN jumped the shark a while back but I find myself able to ignore the twats now and hide/ignore.

It is less cliquey than it was when I joined where the same old faces thought they owned the boards and I think that's a good thing.

MN has recieved more publicity, therefore it will attract more people (I heard about it years ago through word of mouth) and some of those people are going to be twats. Tis a sad fact of life.

I took a break and am much better for it now.

I will agree there is far less debate than when I joined and lots more bitchy one liners that show little imagination.

There are quite a lot of people, some topics more than others, who don't like debate-you are just supposed to agree! (This has always been the case and it hasn't changed).

Anyfucker

I officially do not have a clue what you're on about...

I have mail from who...?

And what am I being thick about..?

I cat'ed you dp

you know...email

do you have email ?

If you don't accept Cat, that is fine. I haven't been notified that you don't, however

No skin off my nose

Has nobody ever contacted you off board before ?

< bewildered >

I don't think it's MN that has changed, i just think the longer your here the more samey things become.

When i first joined about 3 years ago, everything was new to me and fresh and i remember on certain topics the "old" lot on MN used to write "yawn" and "not this again..." because they had been there, done that and bought the debate t-shirt on the subject. But because i was new i would happily debate out my opinion on the 4x4/bf v ff/parking etc threads.

Now though, those threads all seem the same and when i see one i think not this again... because having been here 3 odd years i have seen them out to death.

But one thing i have to remember is the newer members haven't seen those threads to the death so i just leave them threads now and let the newbies get on with it.

I remember my first thread though and getting flamed ALOT

I'm new and I like it here .
Can someone tell me who Cod is? And why is she so great?
Personally

Whoops - new kitten walked on laptop and posted that way too early.

I was going to say I am a bit of a fan of some posters already: Dittany and AnyF*er. I do not always agree with them, but I do like the way they say it.

See AF I can't even say your name?

I have been here about 4 years and agree with Gibbon that it is much less cliquey than it was. However, I do think that because of its current size it feels less like a community and as a result people are perhaps less careful about what they say than they might have been when they felt that they generally knew people. Still great for advice though and whiling away time I don't really have.

you could if you really tried, CMA

although AF will do

Well, yesterday someone gave me a top tip for how to spell definitely.

Anyfucker

Yes quite a few people have contacted me off board....I didn't realize my CAT facility had run out.....can I CAT you...?

sure

although the moment may have passed, slightly

Whoisasking what is the top tip for spelling definitely? I need tips like those.

last week someone on here tried to explain the affect/effect useage, but I still don't get it.

On a more serious note (ahem ...) I really don't think that someone who declares themselves a political activist for the BNP should be allowed to post on MN at all (considering that they bring their politics onto every single thread I can recall in some way or another). I mean, if we are talking about giving this place a spring clean, that obvious and ongoing source of pollution would be my first port of call.

Though this may sound hypocritical, it would even be better if only 'she' was made to namechange - it's the continuity, the gradual building up of a persona and normalisation of 'her' views among everyone else's that is most worrying.

And before anyone leaps up to defend 'her' by pedalling the line that we encounter people like that in everyday life, I would like to say that I for one don't know any Facists as well as I have got to know this one.

Some posters get flamed and put in their place almost instantly for trying to advertise their websites or sell their books but we are meant to stay all matey with someone spitting out the contents of last night's D. Sanchez with Mr Griffin - all in the interests of democracy. Crazy, I'm telling you.

I did a big flouncy thread when I joined four years ago and got the usual responses (c or s in that?) 'grow a thicker skin', 'get your hardhat', 'where's the popcorn'. It was the initiation from hell but strangly liberating. I took all the comments to heart and felt at any moment a surge of frontline MNers would plough through my screen and beat me to death with their perfect command of the english language, life experience and sharpened tongues but along with the suggestions to slip into something more comfortable like a fucking coma were the many suggestions to relax, remember there were thousands of us and appreciate that we are not all the same. Would be pretty boring if we were.

I've had a few barneys but I have also felt completely overwhelmed by the kindness, advice, support offered by complete strangers in times of need in my life.

I have, at times, wanted to write a strongly-worded letter to the gods demanding the immediate lobotomies of one or two posters but that's life isn't it?

The troll shouting thing gets a bit tiring but not to the degree that I'd spit the dummy and give up what I consider to be a great support network whether it be for sincere advice or just a laugh to escape rl for a little while.

Don't be jogging anywhere. Have a big slice of this yummy cake, tea or coffee?

cos I'm posh dontcha know

I normally roll my eyes when I see this type of thread . But in the last two days i have found a couple of threads full of the most stupid, ill-informed, wanky, twatty stupidity which are casually banal in content but filled with loads of posters levering their knuckles off the floor to type 'oh yeah, I agree'. The overall effect is of a bunch of women that only the imagination of Matthew Wright could summon.

So i am guessing I need to fuck off for a short while and see if the impression dims a little.

When MN starts to appear changed, when it disappoints you, it is always about you.