to be disappointed that the inmate who attacked Ian Huntley didn't do a better job?

[Vallhala]

Unfortunately it appears that Huntley will survive.

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8579226.stm

AIBU in thinking that it's a pity that the harm caused to Huntley wasn't fatal?

YABU

I think DrNortherner has the best idea - isnt there a film like that?

No, we don't have capital punishment. We have murdering physchopaths who commit heinious crimes and end up incaracrated in a prison full of other murdering phychopaths. Live by the sword die by the sword.

I don't approve of capital punishment, but I won't be losing any sleep over his injuries tonight - put it that way.

Valhalla, what I'm finding more shocking about this thread is that a person who could defend an animal (dog) who has killed a child, so vehemently as to put the blame on whatever else, finds it difficult to extend such sympathy to a human being.

YABVU

Noo, this thread is going bad again.

Can't we get back to the radishes? Thanks for the link to horseradish btw

YABNU, to have this as a gut reaction as this was my reaction to the news tonight, then I took a step back. I wouldn't have wanted to start a thread about it.

I am not in favour of capital punishment.

I would like to see murderers like Ian Huntley imprisoned until they die. I would like to see all prisoners doing some sort of hard physical productive work to benefit all of society (cleaning up litter, manufacturing solar panels, growing food, whatever it is) but unfortunately it is too expensive to ensure their security to allow this to happen.

QC, I can spell Valhalla! What I couldn't do, for reasons I still have no idea, was return to that name in my MN personal settings after I'd name-changed in order to post something when I didn't want to reveal who I was (nothing terrible btw, just something which would have revealed the identity of me and the person I was speaking of). The only way I could return to the name I am recognised by on here was to change it yet again by altering the letters of Valhalla.

Anyhow, more importantly, I've offended most of you, and for that I'm genuinely sorry. I am loathe to say much but can only explain that I know Soham well and how the crimes have affected the community and, in one case, a family member. I don't speak on their behalf as I said, but purely personally. I just can't see the logic in keeping alive a man at public expense (at the risk of sounding like a DM reader) who imho should never be allowed to be free again.

I'll leave it at that as otherwise I will upset more people and that's not my intention. Please accept that I'm not running away but just don't want to conntinue to offend.

I don't agree with capital punishment either, but murderers like IH should never be let out, ever, they should die in prison. They should not be kept away from other prisoners and if someone in the system takes a pot, so be it.

YABTU

If you want someone killed, you are a murderer (at least, a court could sentence you to life).
The fact that you consider a certain person's life less worthwhile than most - makes you just like any other murderer.

I did read your post above. I feel so strongly about what I've just said, I had to say it.

Agree bobbit (ouch), their time in prison should be productive labour to benefit society in some way, not chain gang stuff, god I'm soft! Would rather murderers like him didn't sweep my street though.

Sewing mail bags would work for me or breaking rocks, I'm flexible.

I personally, wouldn't want to live in a society that legalises putting people to death and I haven't had to.

But for murderers I want to see them locked up until they cannot murder again and that is until death.

Thats the point though no sentence befits the crime.

Venables, Thompson, Huntly to name a few can never have enough of a sentence they took anothers life. Not bad enough that they killed but they killed innocent children.

I know if it was my child they had killed I would feel no sympathy for them in circumstances such as this.

I do agree with the death penalty, lets face it very few crimes these days result in mistaken identity with this grand technology and science we have now, IMHO if you are found to have murdered someone then your punsihment should be death. Why should a murderer have any value of life? albeit locked up, the same for rapists and peadophiles.

He's not likely to be released tho is he ?

TheLadyEvenstar, Sean Hodgson was released only last year after having had 27 years of his wrecked by a wrongful murder conviction.
www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/mar/22/sean-hodgson-compensation-justice
Don't kid yourself this couldn't happen now.

Even if detection was 100% correct at all times (which it isn't), you still have the moral fact that, by wanting another human killed, you are a murderer.

Killing people's wromg. if you kill someone and we catch you we'll, erm, kill..... you...... Hmm, something doesn't quite add up there.