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To feel so sad for this mum and baby but still think she could have been more careful?

329 replies

Vivia · 09/03/2010 10:25

Was in Costa just now. I was in the queue getting a takeaway while two mums were sitting with their newborns on the comfy sofa nearby. Very gorgeous scrunchy babies. I noticed that one mum had the baby lying vertically on her lap, so baby's feet at mother's chest and baby's head near the table. I thought it looked precarious.

And it was. As I walked out, I glanced back I noticed the mum reach over her baby's head and pick up the piping hot mug of coffee. She dropped the large mug of black coffee on the child's face and body. In that split second, I almost didn't register what happened. I ran back in. The security guard from nearby was jumped over chairs and tables to get to the baby, the mother was screaming 'help me!' The security had whipped the newborn to a sink of water and staff were calling the ambulance. The baby screamed at first then went horribly silent. Poor child had been hit in the face by a large, falling china mug and thoroughly scalded by coffee.

I feel so sad but wish the mum had realized that reaching over a newborn to pick up coffee is a terrible idea? I don't mean to judge her but

OP posts:
LynetteScavo · 10/03/2010 17:24

Carolinecoffee... youv'e posted a link to the DM on your first MN post. Nice one. Not sure of the relevance, though. We were discussing a baby here.

Babies have such delicate skin compared to adults, as anyone who's child has had a burn will know.

I really would like to know if the baby is OK.

Twilightobsessed · 10/03/2010 17:39

You don't often agree with the DM, Caroline? Why the fuck do you read it then? And what the fuck are you doing posting a link to it here to annoy the rest of us?

I hadn't planned to post on this thread again but Caroline you have really fucked me off.

Twilightobsessed · 10/03/2010 17:41

I've been thinking about that poor baby and mum all day and I really really hope they are all ok

carolinecoffee · 10/03/2010 17:49

twilight, no i don't often agree with DM but i do sometimes.
i read whatever i feel like reading at any given time and if my post annoys the rest of you, what do you expect me to do? say sorry that i have different opinions to the rest of you?

what should i have posted on my first post? what are the fucking rules according to your highnesses?

carolinecoffee · 10/03/2010 17:55

i've checked the rules as far as i could and couldn't find anything about not being allowed to post a link to DM. please correct me if i'm wrong.

Clarissimo · 10/03/2010 18:08

No rules at all but if you will search DM on here you will see there is both history and a strong feeling (both ways) WRT it

SusieCarmichael · 10/03/2010 18:18

where is the op, i want to know what happened to the baby!

oh caroline was that really your first post? if so then well done!

SusieCarmichael · 10/03/2010 18:19

trys? tries? god knows

KimiGaveUpStarbucks4Lent · 10/03/2010 18:21

Oh dear God that poor poor woman and her poor baby

My nanna lost a sister who died after being scolded I was always so careful around hot drinks when my children were so little.

Do you think anyone from Costa will know how the baby is? Would you be able to find out?
If you do find out please update, oh that poor poor mother and baby

I love going for coffee (as my name suggests) and the amount of time small children running about almost get scolded is beyond belief .

LyraSilvertongue · 10/03/2010 18:29

Scold = tell off
Scald = burn

Sorry to correct you but there's such a big difference.

thesecondcoming · 10/03/2010 18:29

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LyraSilvertongue · 10/03/2010 18:30

Caroline, there's no need to be so aggressive.

ImSoNotTelling · 10/03/2010 18:32

"if you really think it ok that your kid is running around in a coffee shop then i guess it's totally your fault if your kid then manages to get spilt coffee over him.

don't often agree with the DM but agree wholeheartedly with this: www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1229049/Its-cafe-creche-leave-brats-home.html"

The child that was scalded was not running around the shop it was a newborn.

Given that the injuries the baby received could have serious consequences for the rest of its life, or even be fatal, I think linking to an article referring to children in cafes as "brats" is tactless to say the least.

KimiGaveUpStarbucks4Lent · 10/03/2010 18:36

Dyslexic sorry.

Pored boiling hot pan of water on herself from cooked and died.....

KimiGaveUpStarbucks4Lent · 10/03/2010 18:38

cooker

LyraSilvertongue · 10/03/2010 18:38

That's horrible Kimi. I've always been so paranoid about boiling water around my boys.

KimiGaveUpStarbucks4Lent · 10/03/2010 18:41

I remember my nanna telling us about it, I don't think she ever got past it really.
I would never let anyone drink hot drinks and hold my boys.

I see so many mummys in starbucks drinking hot drinks with small babies on their laps or while feeding them (i thought coffee + breast feeding was bad?)

spiderpig8 · 10/03/2010 18:42

I wish we knew how this baby was doing , I can't stop thinking about it

carolinecoffee · 10/03/2010 18:43

lyra, I didn't start out being aggressive just answered in similar way to how i was addressed by twilightsomething.

AliGrylls · 10/03/2010 18:50

Easy to be judgemental on this one - yes she should have been more careful but accidents do happen. When I hear these kinds of stories I always think "there but for the grace of God go I".

KimiGaveUpStarbucks4Lent · 10/03/2010 18:53

The thing is really this woman who may be a first time mum has had a terrible terrible thing happen, and to be honest most of us screw up as first time mums some time because no matter how much you prepare for motherhood it is a steep learning curve and along the way most of us mess up and the ones who say they have never done anything that could have had a bad outcome are lying deluded.

But I have been in coffee shops where parents (not only mothers dads too) do let children run riot and is is a stupid thing to do as an accident can so easily happen.

You would not let a child run around in a car park where there are cars pulling in and out so why let them run around a shop where hot drinks are everywhere.
I know this is a separate issue from the OP so if people want to discuss children in coffee shops in general then please think about starting a new thread and debate it there.

I do not think we need a troll hunting session, a DM bashing party, nor a full out bitchathon

Twilightobsessed · 10/03/2010 18:57

Caroline, under the circumstances of this thread your post and its link were tactless, offensive and stupid. I actually think I was rather restrained.

Morloth · 10/03/2010 19:00

KimiGaveUpStarbucks4Lent "I do not think we need a troll hunting session, a DM bashing party, nor a full out bitchathon."

Now now Kimi we all enjoy those, don't go squashing people's creativity.

To be fair I am yet to actually get a hot coffee in the any of the chains (Starbucks/Costa), they appear unable to make them no matter how many times you say "No EXTRA hot, like boiling, really really hot...". You still end up with a tepid coffee.

lockets · 10/03/2010 19:03

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KimiGaveUpStarbucks4Lent · 10/03/2010 19:10

Morloth I did not say we cound not have one at all, I just think maybe do it away from this thread

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