To feel so sad for this mum and baby but still think she could have been more careful?

[Vivia]

Was in Costa just now. I was in the queue getting a takeaway while two mums were sitting with their newborns on the comfy sofa nearby. Very gorgeous scrunchy babies. I noticed that one mum had the baby lying vertically on her lap, so baby's feet at mother's chest and baby's head near the table. I thought it looked precarious.

And it was. As I walked out, I glanced back I noticed the mum reach over her baby's head and pick up the piping hot mug of coffee. She dropped the large mug of black coffee on the child's face and body. In that split second, I almost didn't register what happened. I ran back in. The security guard from nearby was jumped over chairs and tables to get to the baby, the mother was screaming 'help me!' The security had whipped the newborn to a sink of water and staff were calling the ambulance. The baby screamed at first then went horribly silent. Poor child had been hit in the face by a large, falling china mug and thoroughly scalded by coffee.

I feel so sad but wish the mum had realized that reaching over a newborn to pick up coffee is a terrible idea? I don't mean to judge her but

Exactly Mrs Crafty.

A horrid OP, but if it makes new mothers think abuot hot drinks + babies, and toddlers = danger, then it will do some good.

The story is so horrendous that if true, will certainly find its way into the media. It's a good warning but very traumatizing to read about it in AIBU.

I had an odd feeling when reading the post, it felt wrong somehow, but maybe it was just me trying to protect myself from the reality of such a horrific incidence?

incident

You know what?

If I had witnessed something like the OP has described then yes, probably the forst chance I got I would come somewhere on here and post about it.

Oh how horrendous.

Just a split second like that can be terrible

Was in john lewis cafe yesterday and a mum was warming a pouch of food in V hot water (salding hot) in a mug (or bowl not sure) and in the split second it took for her to blink her baby had grabbed the mug and poured ot over herself, like in costa staff got her under cold water straight away etc but it was so horrible.

God I hope baby in OP and in john lewis are ok

I have not read the thread, but what a horrible thing to happen. Not sure if anyone else has said this already, but when i go for coffee with my children, i ask for take-away cups with lids on even if I am sitting in.

Vivia, I don't think you're a troll either.

I don't understand this either. Troll hunting is hugely annoying but only about 2 people on this thread have said anything about trolling. A couple more have expressed a concern that the mum might find her way to the thread. The vast mjority have simply expressed shock talked about the incident.

Vivia if you read the thread again you will see that it is only a couple of people saying troll. The other dozens aren't.

what a horrendous thing to happen, but I have to say accidents are caused by carelessness generally and dispite the horrid situation it's one that could have been avoided. Even as a new 1st time mum, i wouldn't hold my child while holding a hot drink or let any one else do it, I clearly remember my mil wanting to hold ds while drinking a cup of tea and when I took my ds off her she moaned that she always held her own children while drinking tea and had never spilt anything on them. That poor mother will have to live with her mistake ,just hope her poor baby recovers fully.

whew just read thru the whole thread and beside the fact that the whole story is awful I noted some arrogant comments from mums who seem to think coffee shops are play centres for their kids.

if you really think it ok that your kid is running around in a coffee shop then i guess it's totally your fault if your kid then manages to get spilt coffee over him.

don't often agree with the DM but agree wholeheartedly with this: www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1229049/Its-cafe-creche-leave-brats-home.html

wishing speedy recovery for baby ,

Caroline the child in question was a newborn baby, not a child running around the shop. I am not quite sure what relevance your post has TBH except to link to a standard DM child hating piece.

If all teh mums around here stopped going to coffee shops, about 3/4 of them would close. Many of them welcome and encourage mothers with children.

pmsl @the predictable 'we hate children' DM link.

Well - if it hadn't already kicked off, it really will now....

Oh do bugger off caroline. Ffs.

As ISNT says, when you run a coffee shop in Nappy Valley here in SW London, you either court the Mummy brigade or you go out of business.

Gawd I love it when people say "I don't read/agree with the DM" and then follow it up with "I agree with what I read in the DM". Why the disclaimer at the front?

islandofsodor "If I had witnessed something like the OP has described then yes, probably the forst chance I got I would come somewhere on here and post about it."

This is a bad sign island this means that like me you are starting to view the world according to what sort of post it would make on an online forum.

ha! a link to the DM, how yawn. What a load of old tripe caroline

carolinecoffee - are you Jan Moir? either way you are a twat.

OP could you give the coffee shop a call and see if they know how the baby is?

I think it's silly of OP to flounce off like that just cos of a few doubters. OP told us about a piping hot large mug of coffee ending up on a newborn's face and body.

The image is shocking and will have upset many.
If OP knows what happened to the poor baby, she should
definitely let us know.

the poor Mum will be in hosital not reading this shite

however if ppl are that worried (and I get its a valid concern) get MN to pull this thread

But again, this has stayed with me and made me think and if future accidents are avoided through this thread it cant be all bad

LYNDASILVERTONGUE 'Btw, for those of your worried about the baby being scarred for life, I was badly scalded on the face a couple of years ago by boiling water and although it hurt like hell and I looked dreadful for a few weeks afterwards, I'm completely healed and have no scars now.
Hopefully the baby will have the same outcome (and children tend to heal faster).

Lynda a babies skin is much much thinner than an adults.A burn which would hardly leave a mark on an adult can be a fullthickness burn on a baby.I have found a chart which says temperatures of 70 c a full thickness burn results instantly on contact and at temperature of 65 in 1 second

Ok. Still hope the baby's ok. And it's Lyra, not Lynda.

Its pointless pulling it and no harm done in posting

As long as people follow the rule about not saying anything you would be mortifdied if they ehard there is no issue

And troll hunting is to be expected on MN, and ignored. I'm sure I can recollect recent posts where 2shoes and Peachy were asked if theyw ere trolls so really, its just like dust inevitable and best swept under the carpet and ignored