...to want DS's nursery to not use words like "ta" and "doggie"?

[Naetha]

I understand the benefit of getting babies/young toddlers into the habit of saying "ta" instead of thankyou as it's easier to say, but when they're 2+ and saying thankyou perfectly well, isn't this a bit infantile?

And why doggie?? Surely dog is easier and straight to the point.

Am I just a snob?

Well said, Mrsdoasyouwould, take a look at the new thread that's been started following on from this one!! Foundation Stage Profiles (nightmare....)

I think I shall... Will find some Bailey's first..

i think pscmum has gone

I think "hiya" is worse than "ta"! DD has picked that up from somewhere other than home.

PSCMUM - Many women choose to become childminders because it enables them to remain at home with their own children. I used to be a childminder. We come from all walks of life. I am not poorly educated. I made a decision to give up teaching because I wanted to be at home with my own children.I also wanted to contribute financially to the household, so it seemed a good idea at the time.
I believe that child care is not valued and there is an assumption that caring for other peoples children is easy and that child care workers have few other employment options. This was not true for me and so I would not make that assumption about others.

I am so FUCKED OFF with the bashing early years professionals have taken on this thread.

FWIW I am in the final year of my early childhood studies degree, I am working towards Early Years Professional Status and I actually left school with 12 GCSEs. My parents are EXTREMELY proud of me and all I have achieved and funnily enough, the parents of the children for whom I care feel the same.

I get paid the same money as the cleaner at my pre-school, yes it's shit, but hey ho there it is. On my crap money I manage to contribute to supporting my family. I do my job because I LOVE IT, not because I was too thick or dim to go into anything else and not particularly for financial gain.

It is attitudes like this that seriously make me consider whether this is all fucking worth it.

But then I think of the opportunities available to me once I have my degree and EYPS. I can then go on to teach (shock horror! especially considering my background) and I know that in the future my family will come to have a better life than we do now (although it isn't actually that bad). I also know that the children I am working with will benefit hugely from my knowledge and skills and from those of professionals following similar paths.

I am a qualified primary teacher who works as a nanny...does that make me thick or not?

Disgusted at some of the comments on here. Surely the criteria for looking after a child should be they are loving, caring and trained to the correct level. NOT whether or not they use the word ta. FFS

as a parent using nursery since baby room,i have always had very positive interactions and rapport with staff and their care of my children

a good childcare worker is a considerable asset and we appreciate your efforts

Thanks ladies!

No giraffes, don't you realise that the minute you put on any sort of nursery logo'd polo shirt, all your brain cells get sucked out of your ears rendering you unable to form proper sentences. Surely they teach you that in nanny school. Oh no I forgot, nannies didn't go to school, that's why they're nannies.

I despair...

(any reason why you're ceilidh-ing btw? )

There are some great staff and there are some thickos.
Because the pay is crap, not enough good people go into childcare. That leaves nurseries fighting over the staff. The good staff go to the better nurseries for generally better pay. That leaves the cheaper nurseries needing staff. They can either give up and shut down or employ young people for who nursery works seems to be something to fill in the time between clubbing.
If the staff in your nursery aren't that bright it's you're own fault for going somewhere cheap.

PS. Don't forget men work in nurseries too.

how sad that people are nit-picking nursery staff for saying things like 'ta' and 'hiya' - who cares? surely the fact that they like their job and are competent is more important?

DS is yet to go to nursery, but when he does I'll just be happy he gets on with staff and other children when he's there, regardless of the 'hiya's' and 'ta's'

FWIW I actually say 'ta' occasionally and I say 'hiya' quite a lot so don't get what the hang-up is. what's so wrong with these words???

i pay good money for so called thickos to ignore my children.so i can live an avaricious lifestyle.putting handbags before maternal instinct

lovechoc - you're nowt but a commoner, love

"i just think, it is one of the most important jobs a person can do - spending time with a child during their formative pre-school years - and so i'd like to see people who had studied and have in depth knowlegde of child development, psychology, structured play etc, to do that job. I just think it is such a shame that it is a job we don't value more highly"

Oh crap....I spend all day with my girls (SAHM) and do not have an in depth knowledge of depth knowlegde of child development, psychology, structured play etc....

Is this going to be a problem?

Probably diff, your daughters might end up as nannies...

and yes OP since you asked, you are a snob.

dont make me laugh.sahm isnt a job.it is what mums do

this over embellishing of roles and tasks is laughable.i make dinners but dont need food handling certificate,commis chef training,coshh knowledge,blah blah

that's in your opinion ofcourse SM. for some SAHM is a job in itself, where going out to do 'paid' work take a back seat for a few years.

The OP should have picked a better husband so she could stay at home and look after children herself. I can only assume the OP has a face like a monkey's arse.

yanbu my hubby does it all the time when talking to ds eg calls crisps =chippies hate it

I always say ta. But then i am 34 not 2! For years i always said so called proper words to the children because thats what nannies are supposed to do, but with my own child i say ta, doggie etc. She wont be saying ta and doggie when she is older and not bothered even if she did. Must go take woof woof oops i meant dog for walk.

OMG, Rockbird....not a nanny!

I don't care what they do, as long as they aren't as narrow minded as some on this thread!

"dont make me laugh.sahm isnt a job.it is what mums do"

OK, lets turn this into a SAHM v WOHM shall we? No, I don't think so!

And actually, I take my hat off to any person willing to spend a few hours with some one else's children. It is not an easy job, but most of the do it because they love the job & get the rewards form the child (smiles etc) not because they want to be millionaires.

And these childcare workers are the main reason that many mums are able to work! If we didn't have child carers, mums would have to stay at home.

that's not what i meant so dont twist it,we are all mums we all raise our children. was responding to "muthas the hardest job in world speech..."

er,we are all parents we all raise our family.regardless of whether one is in employment/study or not

YABU. I don't really think it matters what they say at nursery, as they seem to revert to the way you talk at home.

I have had my kids in 3 seperate nurseries over the years (due to house-moves, moving from 0-3 to 3+) and I've always been happy with the standard of care. I don't send my children there to learn elocution. I send them there to be cared for and amused while I am at work. Our 3+ nursery is top-line, run by an ex-teacher (MY ex-teacher!) and I have been really impressed by the education the dd's have had there.

I think that nursery nurses are low-paid in the same way that most people in a "caring" job are poorly paid (nurses, vet nurses) It says nothing about how "thick" or otherwise they are I presume people who think otherwise must regard premier league footballers as fecking geniuses! We do not, unfortunately, live in a meritocracy- the level of pay rarely reflects how skilled/ important a person's job is, IMO.