...to want DS's nursery to not use words like "ta" and "doggie"?

[Naetha]

I understand the benefit of getting babies/young toddlers into the habit of saying "ta" instead of thankyou as it's easier to say, but when they're 2+ and saying thankyou perfectly well, isn't this a bit infantile?

And why doggie?? Surely dog is easier and straight to the point.

Am I just a snob?

The key worker at my DSs nursery is maybe not the brightest button but she genuinely cares about him and looks after him well. That is all I need. I do use "ta" but lived up north for a while where it was more normal to say so.

i think you have to be intelligent to teach life skills and social interaction.

Not that I think regional dialects are bad - I'm quite interested in them and how some are bits of Norse left over etc. I reckon Ta must be something like that.

I think you have to be reasonable intelligent to be able to type fast enough to have your post turn up where you meant it to...

So for all of you that talk about learning things twice, will you be teaching the alphabet using the actual names or the sounds?

Ta wouldnt bother me TBH.

See what I mean?
I don't like 'ta' just cos it doesn't make sense to me but if DD picks it up from someone and uses it then so be it. There are worse things she could be repeating...
And DD grunts for dog, so any word would be better than that surely

DS still makes a brum brum noise for a car even though he can say the word

tak = thank you in swedish (hassled)

So in fact your darling babes are being taught another language...

(phew, wipes brow, that was a close one.....)

Ta, thankyou, cheers.... whatever.... at least the children are being taught to thank someone, which can be quite refreshing sometimes...

.... from the person who has been a paediatric nurse for 20 years and has a few degrees under her belt....

orangina - ta . Have just been trying to Google it - didn't get very far but I did learn that ta-ta meaning "Goodbye" was first recorded in 1835. Or something.

skol!

Ah, orangina, if they're being taught Swedish then that's brilliant - always hoped DD would end up bi-lingual.

And as n adult I say Ta to people all the time - and I wouldnt class myself as a thicko.

i think whoever said the problem with 'ta' is that people think it is common is onto something, defintely. for me when i was dropping my kids off at nursery to people i would have nothing in common with, and would generally think - i am just being brutally honest here and hope i won't be blasted into orbit for it - that they are less well educated than me (no fault of their own - i come from a well off background with educated parents etc, i am sure many of those don't) and that i don't really like the way some of them talk - either saying 'ta' or talking to each other about the children 'awww isn' 'ee so cuw' etc - but then i would happily leave my kids with them all day while i swanned off to work and had a great time. i think it just shows up one of the many dilemmas for working parents who are not millionaires - we have to work to pay bills and survive, but in order to go to work we have to leave our kids with low paid workers, as otherwise, we wouldn't be able to afford to go to work!

hand on heart, who here has left their kids in the charge of people they wouldn't like to spend a whole day with themselves?

maybe i am alone in this extreme snobbery and inner conflict! I accept that is a possibility!

There is some logic to using "doggie" and "birdie" etc., in that it emphasises the end sound of the words. When children are starting to talk they will often say "doh" and "bur" for "dog" and bird" so the baby talk can aid their speech development. Most children will automatically drop the baby words as they get older.
However, I can't see the point of "ta" for thankyou....though come to think of it, thankyou is actually quite a tricky word to promounce correctly.

Aren't "ta" and "doggie" simply extensions of Motherese?

Isnt doggie and birdie etc just a part of the whole 'motherease' language development and actually better as children hear these words better as their ears are attuned to the singsong intonation of the voice. At least that is my understanding of it (unless the theory has changed since I studied language development).

OP is talking about children over 2. these can all surely say 'thanks' instead of 'ta'?

all three of my children started with ta, using the theory that they will continue to use that into adulthood would mean that the first babbles of baba, mama and dada must also be immediatly corrected. As an example my oldest, having a cat called jack, made the assumption that ALL animals were in fact 'jacks' strangely enough he is now 19 and never points and shouts 'jack' at every animal he sees...you see they grow up and learn the correct names for everything...you need to get a grip and stop worrying about things like this...your life and theirs is far too short...and i think to accuse the majority child care workers as 'thickos' smacks of gross ignorance.

Think objected to 'ta' is just snobbery TBH as its a regional expression. Dd used ta-ta when little as was easier for her to say and is something most Irish children are taought when little. She now says thanks or thank you without any problem (well when she remembers).

yanbu
I hate ta, think it is better to teach children real words.

i've already said thickos was lazily chosen expression. the majority are not very well educated and their low pay reflects this though. that is indisputable.