To now dislike my dd's class teacher after finding her on MN?

[absinthe]

She wasn't very complementary about the little dah-lings in her care and I am silently fuming now. I completely randomly feel upon her user name and looked at her profile on the off chance that it might be her and there she was - pics n' all. She does not post a lot but one of her posts would put her in line for at least a formal warning if not more.

Can't say who she is but it is definitely her - without a shadow of a doubt.

I have never had MN cross over into RL before. Is it wrong of me to glance at her generally boring posts, just because it's her?

Maybe I could drop subtle hints about the fact that I use MN too just to see her reaction.

In any case, I think it was a bit sloppy and feel she should have taken more care to make herself anonymous.

It's ok if no-one can work out who she is in RL

'Teachers don't automatically deserve respect or appreciation. It depends whether they are any good at their job and whether their general conduct and demeanour are worthy.

That is the same for any job.'

Yes, and there is no evidence that this teacher is not doing all of that when she's doing her job. There has been a movement to suggest that teachers should be monitored 24/7/52 to make sure that they are of the highest moral fibre but it didn't get enough support. Yet.

When they bring it in for all parents of children under 18, then I'll back it for teachers.

Ah right, glad that's cleared up.

Good old double standards eh? Where would we be without them.

This is a parenting forum, to discuss parenting issues. Can you really not distinguish personal from professional issues, violethill? The OP is raising an issue of possible professional misconduct.

This would be a non-issue if the teacher did have a profile page.

did not* have

I never said they did Bonsior, but there are very few professions where it is considered a national sport to find reasons to slag off all contained within it, or where digging around in someone's personal life is deemed appropriate and 'responsible' because of some as yet undisclosed comment on an internet forum...hence my piece of hyperbole.

But she did - the unprofessional words were, according to the OP, inextricably linked to the person.

It's like when you're in the supermarket and some little horror is playing their mother up and the parent says 'Oh look, theres Mrs Goblin. You'd better behave now'

And then you start playing rugby with them and a bag of pasta. And the parent looks cross that you are not telling their child off.

I'm not a professional when I'm not teaching Bonsoir, I can wear a red hat if I want to.

Hear hear goblinchild.

All the professions that deal with children (so health, childcare, education) regularly come under pressure from parents. Quite rightly so.

And we have the right to resist being crushed.

So you think that if DP and I run into his shareholders while on holiday in a ski resort (to give a recent example), we don't exercise a little more restraint in our behaviour than if we run into friends?

Professional relationships do not end outside the normal professional environment.

Completely agree goblinchild, what right does a parent have on my own personal life! absolutely nothing!
My profession does not deem me to have NO life away from my work, judge me on my work but not on my personal and private life!

But then again I can differentiate the difference between my professional and private life!

Crikey. Some of you teachers seriously need real jobs for a bit.

No they don't, but I would object to having every element of my private life being considered open to all and sundry. I hand over a section of my life to my work (probably more than I should), but I certainly don't hand over the whole blumming lot!

I am NOT saying that the teacher wasn't being potentially irresponsible, just calling for a little perspective. We STILL don't know what was said, which very much does affect the 'seriousness' of the incident. I am objecting the the principle that as she is a teacher it is ok to hunt around Amazon etc and and use what you see in there as a rod to beat her with.

Goblin, how can you feel proud of what you are saying? Proud that teachers apparently hate their jobs and their pupils and the parents but put on a good professional show at work? Did you really mean that? Do you think before you write?

Both of my sisters are teachers, I know a lot of teachers as friends. I don't know any who would talk about fuck off parents or slutty children and I can't believe you're proud of that professionally.

I was actually pulled up by a teacher once who denied that staffrooms are havens of bitchiness. So much for that.

You mean that you'd watch every word you said, stick to bland and inane, innoffensive conversations and make sure they only saw you drinking hot skimmed milk and smiling fondly at each other with 15cm between you?
Too much like being a Stepford Wife for me to cope with.
Would you never comment on anyone in an negative light on an internet forum?

glad im not a teacher....

As for the TES forum -- don't you teach your pupils not to do something just because everyone else is? That the ycan use their own judgement, make up their own minds?

Does the TES forum have identifiable teachers? If it doesn't, what's the point of bringing it up -- apart from to point out that while I find your comments rather grim, you're no worse than most teachers who are all shocking badmouths just pretending to be professional for the parents' benefit.

Haha Bonsior...how is teaching not a 'real' job? What is a 'real job' by thge way? And do you see what I mean now about perceptions of teachers?!

I for one (as have many of my colleagues) took the active decision to leave a very high powered, well paid job in the 'real world' to become a teacher. The pressures are very different, no more and no less. But I certainly never encountered such prejudice in my previous life.

Yawn, this is turning into yet another MN teacher bashing thread...

I don't think anyone is suggesting that teachers shouldn't have a private life. However, they need to exercise some restraint over those bits of their life that are in full public view.

Those are the professional standards that the rest of the grown up world has to uphold. Why should teachers be exempt? Or have some of them never really grown up and learnt about the sort of behavour expected beyond school?

Probono, I'm merely pointing out that professional behaviour is exactly that, being able to present yourself as organised, calm, patient, enthusiastic, intelligent and all the rest whilst doing your job.
Regardless of whether you have your period, a hangover, childcare issues or a partner dying of cancer.
Whatever the stresses a teacher is undergoing, it shouldn't leak into the job. Out of hours it's a different story.

It's turning into a teacher-bashing thread because the teachers who've commented have been paddling in the shallow waters of self-righteous malice for some time and continue to do so.

I agree with Anna