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to Hate/Love how repulsively bitchy MN is?

286 replies

Lucianne3 · 03/01/2010 00:10

I just can't stay away from AIBU....it's a more compulsive and shameful addiction than reading the Daily Mail online; same sense of barely-suppressed hatred and scorn, same vicious female bitchiness and judgemental outrage.

Happy New Year all of you...

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Undertone · 03/01/2010 15:57

I think it gets so bitchy because when you write an argument or a comeback, you get to read it back and get it just right.

In RL face-to-face disagreements I tend to say things like; 'Oh yeah? Well... well... I think you're wrong!' When retrospectively I realise it would have been much more effective to say 'I see. But unfortunately I can't talk to you reasonably when you have a face like that, as you look like a camel with indigestion.'

In written prose, I think we're all living the dream of getting to rehearse our comebacks - an effect of which is the superlative bitchiness on MN!

TrillianAstra · 03/01/2010 16:03

I love AIBU, although it should perhaps be called Come-tell-me-I'm-right-oh-yes-I-am-you-are-all-meanies-I-am-not-being-unreasonable-how-very-dare-you !

poinsettydawg · 03/01/2010 16:06

I think there is a lot of subjectivity about the meaning of bitchiness

Sassybeast · 03/01/2010 16:13

Le Queen a troll? - As in someone who 'makes stuff up on the internet?' Surely not ? Not Le Queen ? Really - not LeQueen ?

Kaloki · 03/01/2010 16:20

I think the word troll is used in really odd circumstances on MN. I've never heard it used for so many different reasons on any other forum (this is in about 10 years of forum use, sad I know)

But LeQueen's description of a troll is spot on, for everywhere apart from MN apparently. It's just someone who is trying to cause fights and being deliberately offensive. Eg. going onto a forum for a predominantly black community and posting about how great the KKK are.

Pikelit · 03/01/2010 18:03

AIBU mightn't be compulsory but it can become compulsive. I've little time for the mimophants though.

AnyFucker · 03/01/2010 18:04

mimophants ???

hbfac · 03/01/2010 18:07

Anyfucker - you know - those women who only date blokes who work as living statues in Covent Garden.

BoysAreLikeDogs · 03/01/2010 18:08

mimophant

V v good, pikelit

LeQueen · 03/01/2010 18:10

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BoysAreLikeDogs · 03/01/2010 18:12

no no no

mimophants are delicate sensitive fleurs when it comes to themselves and their feelings, and are elephants trampling over others and their feelings

hbfac · 03/01/2010 18:12

Oh very, very good, Boys Are Like Dogs.

BigBadMummy · 03/01/2010 18:13

I love it. I think I am addicted now. And my DH is now reading through things wondering if this is what women do all day.

If people get upset by the bitchiness, don't go there. Don't read it, don't post.

To me there is a certain amount of bitchiness in all women, it starts with puberty and therefore this is just part of the same thing.

I love some of the stuff that gets posted and some of the moral questions do get me thinking about my own stance on stuff. Reading other people's opinions can also be beneficial, you can see things from the other perspective.

Bring it on I say. And if you can access it on an iPhone it might just make me get one one day

hbfac · 03/01/2010 18:13

@ BALD 18:08

Unlikelyamazonian · 03/01/2010 18:18

what to do with yellow xmas socks? Zeitgeist: John Philip Sousa Artists do not create in a vacuum. They reflect their times or at the very least are affected by the lives they lead which are also influenced by the public sphere. The term for this reflection is ?Zeitgeist.? It literally means ?spirit of the times.? John Philip Sousa and his works can be classified under this term of ?Zeitgeist.? Most of Sousa?s music was composed during a period known as the gilded age. This period is known for its gross materialism and blatant political corruption in the United States. However, Sousa?s music does not seem to reflect this corruption, but rather it reflects a way to deal with the corruption and mishaps of the times. John Philip Sousa, also known as the ?March King,? was born on November 6,1854, in Washington D.C., near the marine barracks where his father, Antonio, was a musician in the marine band . He received his grammar school education in Washington and for several of his school years enrolled in a private conservatory of music operated by John Esputa, Jr. . There he studied piano and most of the orchestral instruments, but his main passion was the violin. He became very good at the violin, and at age 13 he was almost persuaded to join a circus band . As a young boy, the martial music of army bands in the streets of Washington during and immediately following the Civil War had a profound effect on him. When he was not yet fourteen he enlisted in the Marine Corps and succeeded in becoming a member of the marine band . This is where he picked up a liking for marches. After being discharged from the Marine Corps, Sousa toured with several traveling theater orchestras and in 1876 moved to Philadelphia. There he worked as an arranger, composer, and proofreader for publishing houses . While on tour with an opera company in St. Louis, he received a telegram offering him leadership of the Marine Band in Washington. He accepted and reported for duty on October 1, 1880, becoming the band?s 17th leader . The marine band was Sousa?s first experience conducting a military band, and he approached it unlike most of his predecessors. Rehearsals became exceptionally strict, and he shaped his musicians into the country?s premiere band . The military was important to Sousa?s music style. His main musical compositions were marches, which were the most widely used form of music in the military. His first two marches that he wrote as leader of the band, ?The Gladiator? and ?Semper Fidelis,? were received with great acclaim in military band circles and from that time on he received ever-increasing attention and respect as a composer . Both of these marches were high-spirited and uplifting, just the thing to raise moral among the troops as well as promote nationalism within the states. In 1889, Sousa wrote a march called ?The Washington Post? march, which was soon adapted and identified with the new dance called the two-step. Right after this march was written, a British band journalist remarked that since Johann Strauss, Jr. was called ?The Waltz King,? that American bandmaster Sousa should be called the ?March King.? With this Sousa?s regal title was coined and has remained ever since . Sousa lived most of his life during a time known as the gilded age, named after the famous book by Mark Twain. The gilded age was a time of gross material interest among the American people and blatant corruption among the politicians . Within congress the Senate generally overshadowed the House of Representatives. Some critics even called the Senate a ?rich man?s club.? The House was one of the most disorderly and inefficient legislative bodies in the world. As a result of the civil war, the division between the Democrats and the Republicans was even more sectional than ever . In this case it is very hard to find the ?Zeitgeist? in Sousa?s compositions of this time. In fact they even seem to contradict the spirit of that era. All of the marches that Sousa wrote during the gilded age were extremely upbeat and energetic, while the time was corrupt and backhanded. This is because Sousa was responding to the negative messages being sent out by the political society by helping Americans realize how great their nation is. All of his musical pieces expressed a certain proud nationalism that helped the people cope with the harsh times. Sousa?s most famous march, ?The Stars and Stripes Forever,? was written, in 1896, by Sousa on a boat ride from Europe to the United States. The manager of the Sousa band had just died and Sousa knew that he had to go back to manage the band. On the whole ride back he kept hearing a tune over and over in his head. When he got to land he set the tune down on paper. Eventually he even set words to it . In the march Sousa proclaims that other nations may think that their flag is the best, ?but the flag of the North and South and West is the flag of flags, the flag of Freedom?s nation .? This song became so popular with the American people that Sousa?s band played it at almost every concert until his death . On December 10, 1987, 55 years after Sousa?s death, ?The Stars and Stripes Forever,? was designated as the national march of the United States. A White House memorandum states that the march has become ?an integral part of the celebration of American life .? The march is still identified today with the ideas of freedom and nationalism. In conclusion, John Philip Sousa was a great American composer who helped America forget their troubles during a time of disunion and confusion. He reflected the ?Zeitgeist? by reacting to the corruption of the day through music. With his help our nation regained its true sense of pride. Word Count: 991

I guess yes?

SolidGoldBloodyJanuaryUrgh · 03/01/2010 18:19

Wrong thread? Or even wrong website?

hbfac · 03/01/2010 18:20

That was quite random ...

LeQueen · 03/01/2010 18:21

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BoysAreLikeDogs · 03/01/2010 18:21

I am hoping that UA is showing that AIBU is a zeitgeist??

either that or she's been inhaling helium balloons again

JustAnotherManicMummy · 03/01/2010 18:22

I have no idea what Unlikelyamazonian just said but expect it was tres clever.

But just wanted to say I luuurve AIBU.

However, it can get a bit samey so after the first 5 months should only be dipped into every couple of weeks. IMHO.

SloppySecondsIsBest · 03/01/2010 18:24

How bizarre. And why did I read it all the way to the end? That is time I will never get back...

JustAnotherManicMummy · 03/01/2010 18:25

Unlikelyamazonian are you ok?

MonicaMoniker · 03/01/2010 18:28

I'm surprised at the word 'bitchy' tbh. You haven't lived till you've been flamed on Mumsnet. It's happened to me once or twice - I just pick myself up, dust myself off, namechange and off I go again...

MrsMattie · 03/01/2010 18:30

Being flamed on AIBU is a rite of passage on MN.

But please - no DM comparisons! That should be written into the MN Rules as blasphemy...

AnyFucker · 03/01/2010 18:37

monica, you don't actually have to even name-change after a kicking on MN

I've had a few (and given a few) and just carry on regardless, yesterday's news and all that...

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