To expect someone not to let their three dogs jump all over me

[8oreighty]

and "playbite" my arms?!!! I was on a rural path...fair enough, but I think people should control their dogs...I got muddy footprints all over me. It is also kind of scary if you don't know the dogs. There were two women with 3 dogs, not even an apology. Even when I said angrily, "please can you get your dogs off me". That's just not on - is it?

Yeah dogs just jump up at your back or come round to your front. Turning my back has never worked for me.

Don't you? Well you blardy should, and it should be 'provisional' until your dog is trained, and until you get your full licence it should be kept on a lead.

Also, dna of each dog should be kept on a database and traffic wardens should collect samples of poo left on the street to be analysed with the owner paying for the expense and then fined and then get points on their licesnce.

The dog licence was got rid of in 1987, and now any untrained fool can keep dangerous animals in their home.

We still have the dog licence here but I think most just ignore it.

ok in general if you ignore a dog they will ingore you there are always exceptions to the rule

I hasten to add I wouldn't kick another person's dog as a first line of defence - a command or gesture usually works, or getting hold of its collar. I've never had to do it yet but the situation might arise (much more likely with a dog than a child). If the dog wasn't responding to other measures I think I'd want to keep my hands out of its way so it might have to be a boot-push or stick-poke.

good job my dog isnt dangerous then.

no i didnt read your thread,i feel for your son i do, but he obviously needs help realising not all dogs are the same and you do to.

Any dog can be dangerous, it is a fool that doesn't understand that

Your dog is especially dangerous if you can't see it as a possibility,even a remote one. Complacent owners are the ones you have to be most careful of....

i have no reason to belive my dog is dangerous, she has never shown any form of a aggression to anyone or any animal.ever. poor little baby is scared of cats.

Even when we had a dog license, it said nothing about the ability of the owner to train the dog; it was purely a tax on dog ownership.

Of course all dogs aren't the same, but the problem is you have absolutely NO way of telling which ones are dangerous. A good bet is a dog who isn't responding to an owner calling.

The problem is NEVER with the child. Fear is usually unnecessary, but fgs it is a human right. It is NOT a dog's right to enter a humans personal space without invitation. Therefore it is the DOG that needs to be trained, not the child.

You can repeat this as often as you like sunshine, but it does not take away from the fact that my son was mauled by a dog whose owners said exactly the same and even when faced with my seriously bleeding son and paramedics, said it could not^ have been their dog - even though my son's blood was on the muzzle and neck of the dog!

It is your total insistence that your dog is reliably safe that is an issue for me!

no if my dog attacked then i would make no excuses for her at all, but she hasnt.

But Riven - sunshine doesn't accept that.

Her dog is safe, apparantly!

Sunshine, if your dog did attack, would you have it destroyed?

yes i would weegie.

That really shows you have trust in your dog.

I appreciate that.

Do you accept that there are a lot of owners out there though who say the same as you but don't have suck good dogs?

can i just say that all animals are unpredictable, cats, dogs, gerbills, lizards, they DO NOT have human feelings/behaviours or anything else its only because dogs can cause more damage if they bite, that the non dog-owning general public dislike them. can i just say that i was viciously bitten by a cat but no action was taken, because it was a cat, it would have been dfferent if it was a dog

yes my dog is trained to recall.

i have no issue with her at all

she is trained
good with kids
good with people
good with animals
never barks at anyone or anything
never jumps up people
does not lick people
she goes to the field or park and stays at my side, unless we are playing
she never growls
i'm sorry i understand that if your child has been attacked why you would be scared.
but i do not belive my dog would harm anyone and i'm sure i know her enough to know the signs if she was going too.

If dogs are on leads then there should be no problem with them biting or jumping up etc. Unless as in my case you have a tiny dog which people insist on trying to stroke and letting their children try to stroke her even when I stand there telling them that my dog bites.

My dogs are kept on extendy leads and are 'reeled' in when any one approaches. One gets over excited and the other is fear aggressive.

If I was out and a dog jumped up at me or my DDs I would push it off and ask the owners to get it away. I personally think kicking it is a bit much. However if a dog attacked me, my child or my dogs I would do what ever I needed to to make it stop.

I think that if we had dog parks like they do i the US where parts of parks are cordened of so dogs can run around with no leads and in the rest of the park they have to be kept on lead it would solve a lot of these problems.

yes i do weggie completly, i wouldnt make excuses for her at all and if she showed any signs of aggression she would be kept on a lead and muzzeled.

But watch out if you do defend your child against a dog. My poor father kicked a dog away from my sister who was in a pushchair at the time, in the village post office. Wasnt a hard kick more of a shove, the dog had nipped my sister (aged 2) in the face the previous week. This was 30 odd years ago and some dog owners in the village still talk about it! Luckily my father has a thick skin and is totally unrepentent.

YANBU - I really dislike those people who have dogs/cats that think just because they love them, you should love them too .

I agree with weegiemum, dogs should be trained not to jump up on strangers. Obviously this is down to the owners, its their responsibility.

I hate it when dogs come near me when I am out with DD in the buggy, if they come over to the buggy looking curious then I would have no problem in pushing them away with my foot. Wouldn't feel the slightest bit bothered by it but really the owners should be controlling dogs who do that and especially jumping up on people and play-biting their arm.

OP - I would have been terrified and probably would have went off my head at the owners too.