To expect someone not to let their three dogs jump all over me

[8oreighty]

and "playbite" my arms?!!! I was on a rural path...fair enough, but I think people should control their dogs...I got muddy footprints all over me. It is also kind of scary if you don't know the dogs. There were two women with 3 dogs, not even an apology. Even when I said angrily, "please can you get your dogs off me". That's just not on - is it?

God this thread has been rumbling on doing the same old shitey shite all day.

Sunshine you are obviously a model citizen when it comes to dog ownership. Agreed. But you cannot and will not seem to accept what has been said over and over and over again that despite what YOU think about your god damn dog, there is always that 1% chance it could hurt someone. You still defend, defend, defend. Please can you just accept what everyone is saying, not just me, even other dog owners are saying it.

A child is worth more than ANY dog. It is not a human being it is an animal. Animals are hunters.

Next you will be telling us you kiss it on the mouth and it lies on your bed at night.

By Sneezecake Thu 24-Sep-09 22:14:45 Add a message | Report post | Contact poster
KM I hope you teach your child to respect aminals and not to go teasing them, as that is when the majority of dog attacks happen

Oh ffs have you even bothered to read the thread. Weegiemum's posts?????

i'm barking,of course! why? because i dont threaten to kill a dog stone dead or kick the shit out of it.

kerry you are very aggressive you have shown more anger on here than my dog has ever shown i think you should be put down.

end fucking of.

omg omg omg, my mother sleeps in the spare room as does her patrner because all her 4 dogs sleep all over their bed and there is not room for them.
I told you she was barking

if thats the case you should have no problem

What a reasoned, well thought out post sunshine.
It conclusively proves you are right.
Well done.

omg agin!! i did not say it's ok for a dog to bite a child, you should be able to protect your child other than trying to kick shit out of the dog, thats if it didnt kill you first if it's that aggressive.

yes i have read the entire thread

no fimbo my dog sleeps in her bed in the kitchen

Just had a quick look, not read it all, obviously.

Just wondering - the old thing of "dogs pick up on fear - so don't be scared the dogs will know and your children will learn to be scared as well".

How does one stop being scared of something that one is intrinsically scared of? And scared for good reason? Pretending won't do any good as the dogs can "tell". So what are you supposed to do?

That whole thing has never made any sense to me.

Sunshine, you are really not getting it are you.

Well that's fine then. If you accept a parent can use neccessary force to protect their child then that's generally what I'm saying I'd do.
I actually do not understand what you are arguing against.

KerryMumbles
You know what is what in regard to nut allergies, come and help me out on the nutella thread.

Oh, and by the way, as a parent I judge what level of threat a dog is to my child and I judge what level of force is required to remove that threat.
Thedog owner doesn't get to come and make that choice for me by telling me the animal won't bite.

no it has the right to freedom,just has much as you do.
and if you kept your dog on a lead it would be aggressive, so i'd be careful with what you say it could bite you on the ass in the future.

she doesnt take any notice of other people so anyone comes over to my dog, than it wont be my dog that is getting the shit kicked out of it.

'you should be able to protect your child other than trying to kick shit out of the dog,'

what are your other suggestions sunshine?

perhaps take a minute to shout the owner over to put it on the lead, maybe wait another minute to see if the dog just walks away itself? No, it can take a split second for things to turn very nasty, so my (and Im sure many other mothers) first instinct would be to deal with the dog myself and if that meant using violence then so be it - a childs life is not even comparable to a dogs life.

Here in black and white:-

Children and dogs can be a wonderful combination and with care and common sense, you can ensure a safe and happy relationship between them. Remember, however, that any dog - regardless of breed, age or type - can bite if they feel threatened and no matter how friendly they normally are, they can never be completely predictable around children. Dogs are animals and will always respond instinctively first, no matter how much training and socialisation has been given. However, very few dogs bite without provocation and almost all will give plenty of warning first so preventing children from teasing dogs and teaching them to recognise the warning signs will go a long way to preventing a tragic accident.

Remember, however, that any dog - regardless of breed, age or type - can bite if they feel threatened and no matter how friendly they normally are, they can never be completely predictable around children - the point that has been tried to get across all day.

A dog does not have the same right to freedom as a person does.
That is the entire point. They don't have the same rights as people.
And did anyone seriously suggesting going up to a dog and kicking it? Of course not.

yes as a dog owner i will use whatever force i need to on you if you touch my dog, as i would be protecting my dog just as you are your child.

N/A if my dog is acting aggressive, dogs normally give warning so i suggest you all go look it up.

goodnight.

I'm not sure that dogs do have the same right to freedom as people in this country do they?

In general animals which are capacble of inflicting harm are either kept in zoos or under lock and key otherwise. If a tiger excaped people wouldn't be saying it had a right to freedom on the high street, even if it was wandering around quite peacefully.

Dogs get around that as they are "mans best friend" and a popular pet and working animal and so different rules apply than for other animals with large teeth.

sunshine can you see that some people really don't like dogs or want to be around them and that's their choice? If someone didn't like cats (as an example), they could avoid them easily, but with dogs it is up to the owners to keep them away or face people acting in fear? Personally I like calm dogs, but if one jumps up near me I'm prone to panic and could well kick out through sudden reaction and seriously hurt a dog - that wouldn't actually be my fault or the dog's fault would it? It would be the owner's fault!