shy people get on my tits

[brimfull]

and I know I am being unreasonable

but I want to shout-' grow up and make a fucking effort!!'

and don't moan about your kids not having mates to play with when you never ask people back,never say hello in the street

thanks

needed to get that off my chest

Can I direct you to this thread?

How lovely for you to have such chutzpah and vim

It makes the rest of us look like a very pale imitation of your shining star !

Some people are so blindingly unaware of themselves that they think they are entertaining and interesting, because they are not shy.

When the opposite is true, they are crashing (and very loud) bores.

yes i think dont be so bloody rude

then tehy say" oh i have depression"

adn you think ( uncharitably) im not sodding suprised

lol, so what if you are outgoing and have always had a large group of friends, and everywhere you go people say hi to you BUT you are the first in your group to have a child and your dc is an only child therefor has no child friends except family and on the odd toddler group morning?
I have a large, close group of friends, but am the only one with a family. My ds has cousins though that he sees daily - but none of my friends have children. We go to a toddler group one morning per week, but all the mums have a good few years on me and apart from having kids we don't have much in common at all...

I find that self-obsessed, verbose people are actually the least confident and have the lowest level of self-esteem

You can hide behind a wall of verbal diarrhoea, can't you ?

lol at talkative people havign low self esttem

no they have manners

No, the World needs shy people. If everybody was like Davina McCall and Jonathon Ross it would be awful.

yes I think you can have enough friends

you cn have loads of acquaintances

ggirl, maybe they aren't shy? They might actually just not like you very much.

Talking at people is manners?

some shyness borders on rudeness

'then tehy say" oh i have depression"

adn you think ( uncharitably) im not sodding suprised'

You sound like a cock.

yabu I like the shy people the best

not shouty & boisterous just quietly themselves

There is a view that shyness is a sort of arrogance - < we're not looking at you y'know! > - such bolleux

i like people who are quiet.
just not shy, is not the same
please DONT BLUSH it makes me panic

How is being talkative having manners? Being a good listener to someone like that must surely be good manners.

Well, you already know your being unreasonable so wont rub it in...though I would like to know how you've managed to get this far in life without realising we are all different?

YABU and mean! I was born a quiet person and Have finally accepted myself this way. I make the effort when needed with people, but like lots of time alone. Why should that be a problem? Different strokes and that..

I am a cock.

but a lot of people think it

Who have manners, the people listening or the people suffering from verbal diarhoea?

non shy people are not always boisterous and shouty,I never shout am hardly boisterous but I do smile and talk to people,even if I can't be arsed

some shy people make an effort socially but

some don't make an effort and it comes across as rude

sometimes shyness can be perceived as rudeness, yes. this does not mean it IS rude. yapping on incessantly is quite rude imo

Mind you most of Mn is composed of shy folk.

what a ridiculous thread,

we're all shy but some of us make an effort???

wtf? it has nothing at all with not making an effort
in fact, this thread is really quite nasty i think. I have in the past suffered from quite crippling shyness, and it took me a very long time to overcome it, I am still terrible when faced with groups of people, or when meeting new people.
I would love not to be shy. I would love to be able to simply "make an effort"
it isn';t that simple,

of course I wouldn't voice my opinion in real life-far too rude

that's what mn is for

How about if you don't like them, you just don't spend time with them!?