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to enjoy wine every night?

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barnsleybelle · 25/07/2009 17:49

Been to a football gala today with ds and got involved in a discussion about drinking.
I probably drink at least 2 glasses of wine every night. Sometimes half bottle sometimes full.
DH works away so my nights when dcs are in bed are my time. I look forward to my wine.
Anyway equal amounts of mums at the gala either agreed with me or were horrified.
What's the general opinion on here i wonder???

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noddyholder · 27/07/2009 16:56

JV that is irrelevant tbh.It is the act of metabolising the alcohol regardless of how 'dilute' it is over time that causes cirrhosis not a particular tipple!

expatinscotland · 27/07/2009 17:04

Well, if anything this thread has just hammered home how weight I've gained not through drink . I can't deny that that extra 2st I'm carrying is probably as bad for my health as the level of drinking the OP does because I have heart disease and hypertension in my family.

I think I need to aim for going crisp-free for two nights in a row.

Seeing threads like this, however, I do wonder if all the people who are so particular about the number of units they drink/week (and keep in mind for some of us that number of units = zero) are carrying 2 extra stone around like me, or more.

Because tbh, that's not exactly risk-free when it comes to our health. [considers buying running shoes

Nancy66 · 27/07/2009 17:08

Research has proven that high alcohol consumption can trigger breast cancer in women.

I said earlier in the thread that I had two friends who have had BC in recent years. both were big, big drinkers. One was slim, a non smoker, a regular exerciser, in her 30s and no family history of breast cancer. Hower she drank about 45 units of alcohol a week. Her consultant at the Royal Brompton said he had no doubt that her lifestyle had caused her cancer.

He had been researching alcohol and it's connection to breast cancer for years and he believes that the alcohol link is very strong and important.

expatinscotland · 27/07/2009 17:11

Did she take the Pill for years and years, too, Nancy? Some consultants feel that plays a part.

Unfortunately, no one knows what triggers cancer, if they did they'd probably be the world's greatest hero.

Anyone else carrying an extra 2st+ and in denial about the health risks and want to join me on a slimming thread (since we're confessing, I just drank a 500mL bottle of Coke ).

Nancy66 · 27/07/2009 17:19

No - but she was childless. Apparently not having kids does increase your risk of BC.

My friend was very upset and shocked and totally confused that there had never been any government health warnings of the link when so much attention is paid to smoking - but, since her diagnosis, there has been a government campaign.

barnsleybelle · 27/07/2009 17:23

@ expat yet again... do you know expat if i see you have posted on a thread i look regardless of my interest in the topic. Your posts are always soooo honest.

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expatinscotland · 27/07/2009 17:26

See, I think the issue is we just can't pinpoint it to one thing, though.

I mean, I used to smoke a pack+/day, drink way too much (did both of these for years), took the Pill for over a decade, didn't have children till later in life and now I'm overweight (which is also has a major link with BC), if I were to get it, no one would be able to say exactly what it was in my lifestyle.

Personally, I'd be seriously pissed off if a consultant went and told me 'It was your lifestyle'. His job is not to guilt patients or assign blame for their friggin' cancer, there's enough guilt to go with that, it's to treat it.

K999 · 27/07/2009 18:12

Hello Barnsleybelle - how did your interview go??

barnsleybelle · 27/07/2009 19:45

OOh hello K9... I got the job!!! yee haa. After 2 years as a sahm it's gonna hit me hard. How did you get on?

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K999 · 27/07/2009 20:19

Oh, well done you!! That's fab!!

My interview went ok...it was a competency based interview so not too sure whether I answered all the questions in they way expected....still I am having a glass of wine to celebrate the fact that I got through the interview.

Think I will adopt the 2 days off rule - but will start tomorrow!!

barnsleybelle · 27/07/2009 20:22

... I'm gonna do the 2 day off rule too, but like you im celebrating tonight!

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Nancy66 · 27/07/2009 20:25

Expat, I think it is his job - and he only said that after she asked him what could have caused it.

She needed to know so she could curb her drinking in the future to prevent reoccurance.

expatinscotland · 27/07/2009 20:36

if she asked it's one thing, but even he does NOT know what exactly caused it, and i think it's dead wrong to tell someone, 'yeah, quit drinking and it won't re-occur'.

like i said, what if someone like me went in there? there's no way of knowing what the hell it was. stress has been shown to have a strong link with some cancers, overweight, smoking, eating certain foods, even some viruses.

but if she hadn't asked. no, it's their job to treat you, not heap blame on a person. that's low.

like someone would be craving booze on chemo, anyhow.

honestly, it's one of the things that can lead to an increased risk of breast cancer.

NO ONE knows for sure what the hell might trigger it off from person to person and i think it's bloody irresponsible, unprofessional and downright dangerous to tell a patient it was on thing in particular or another.

research it in your professional life, sure, of course.

a bit like telling the parent of a disabled child it was their fault for eating or drinkign something, when 9 times out of 10 no one knows what caused some forms of disability.

SolidGoldBrass · 27/07/2009 22:11

MIFLAW: I certainly didn't mean that all teetotallers are killjoys. I am fully aware that some people do not drink alcohol for a variety of reasons and would never harass anyone who doesn't drink, call them boring purely for not drinking or try to coax or force or trick them into consuming alcohol against their wishes (my brother is a teetotaller, it's his choice and his business). However, some non-drinkers are arseholes (one of the most tiresome people I know is a reformed alcoholic who never shuts up about it) - as indeed are some drinkers.

MIFLAW · 28/07/2009 00:51

Fair enough - I hoped that was what you meant ...

World is full of arseholes. It's enough to drive you to drink.

ChoChoSan · 28/07/2009 13:20

So, come on... who gave their liver a night off last night?

8oreighty · 28/07/2009 14:15

another night off the booze...so two nights...still feel groggy when I wake up...it does mean I get fed up with tv by about 9:30 and decide to go to bed.

barnsleybelle · 28/07/2009 17:09

I had a wine or 2 last night as i was celebrating my successful interview
My 2 nights start tonight.

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K999 · 28/07/2009 19:02

I didnt last night....and already have poured a glass tonight!! Wil start tomorrow......I promise!

Jude68 · 29/07/2009 14:16

Is it too early for a dribk now? I can barly make it through till 6pm most days. The thought of a nice glass of red, that first sip gets me through the tedious bathtime routine and the last hour of CBeebies...am I going to hell?

Jude68 · 29/07/2009 14:17

oops..terrible typing. I'm sober, honest!

8oreighty · 29/07/2009 16:20

ok 3 nights now...don't actually feel any better! And have ended up doing loads more housework than usual...hmmm.

MIFLAW · 29/07/2009 16:25

8or - why the assumption that you will feel better after 3 days? Depending on how much you have been drinking (and any other ongoing bad habits, not to mention underlying illnesses) it might take you a while longer.

Try to be positive instead that you don't feel worse than you do!

8oreighty · 29/07/2009 17:07

I was only having a glass of wine each night, thought if I gave it up I'd be filled with energy and jump out of bed in the morning, but no difference at all...maybe a glass is actually fine. I suppose when I do have a glass now at the weekend I will get quite pissed quickly so will then drink even less...is good to do it

horsemadmum · 29/07/2009 21:14

Hey Barnsleybelle

I dont think it sounds bad, i think everyone has become very hyped up due to government /marketing pressure. If you believe everything you read, than you will get cancer from eating certain vegetables after 9pm !!!!!!!!! I think that only you know your body and if you feel fine emotionally and physically than there is no problem !!! ~Myself and my friends drink similar amounts and i dont look at them in a negative manner xx

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