ok...will try this again, aibu to be put off a school by the amount of children with SN?

[daftpunk]

posted this in education, (Pre-school, like the twit that i am).....my ds is due to start secondary school in 2 years so we're looking around already, i am a bit put off by a school with lots of SN children, as SN also means behaviour problems....i'm not sure if i am being unreasonable.

Live by the sword and die by the sword? LOL!

'I'd like to take this opportunity to thank everyone who has helped and supported me' - you haven't won a prize, dear

You haven't learnt from it, you've twisted your words over and over to make it sound like you didn't mean SN children at all when the first half of the thread sees you defending that very viewpoint.

The people on MN who really have learnt from their threads tend to come on and address the points raised and say that they fucked up - this is your very identity, being offensive, and nasty, as shown by your list. The one YOU wrote.

No one can boot you off but opening your mind a bit further and educating yourself wouldn't do you any harm - though I can't see it happening.

Sorry, I refreshed, I wrote that ages ago

Yes, the thread should die, it will do, but it should not be deleted.

I think some people on this thread have rather enjoyed using it as a stick to beat DP with. I don't agree with what she has posted here and i think it was insensitive. But im sorry, but if you say as parents of NT (what does that actually mean) children, that a high proportion of SN doesn't concern you then as distasteful as that sounds, then you are a liar. Its a horrid concern to have and im ashamed to admit that it would concern me. But as i said in my previous post, my concern would only be that, OK - does the school have the resources to cope with this? I would have to check it out. Im pretty sure that parents of children with SN or SEN would also want to make sure that the school can provide the support that their children need. Actually, thinking on it, if i were a parent of achild with SN, a high proportion of other children in the school would concern me if there were limited rescources. My DD has had quite a serious speech delay, i suspect she might be dyspraxic, so i am not being a smug mother of an "NT" child either.

DP love, you need to learn from this and move on - you know i like you, but fucking hell lady. It would be an awful shame if you had to lose the support you obviously get and need here over your provocative attitudes.

I'm not a liar.

What an odd thing to post.

Its an amazing concept to some people that there are other children in schools

DP you can always home educate if you're worried about who your child might have to mix with

not odd at all - im just pointing out that as uncomfortable as it makes us feel, as parents, we went the best for our children and would want to be assured that the presense of children who are going to need extra help and attention isn't going be at the cost of the rest of the class. I would have thought that this would be the case as schools employ teaching assistants specifically for this purpose and i think that its far better than seggregating children when they are perfectly able to cope in the mainstream with a bit of extra help.

My friends little boy is on the ASD spectrum (is that what its called?) he can have physically violent outbursts and be very disruptive. I have to say i am a little worried about him and DD being at school together - they both start in september. They will be partners in crime - they set each other off. But thankfully, we know he has some issues, years ago he would have been written off as just naughty. He is possibly the most charming little boy i have ever met and i would hate to think that he would be excluded from mainstream school because of his behaviour issues. But it is still a concern for me as i KNOW he will distract DD if they are sat together

Cammellia, even more amazing is that was un unfortunate typo on my part. I meant to say that parents of children with SN would be concerned if there were other SN children in the class as they would want to ensure their child received the support they need. Sorry.

Luce there is no such thing as a smug NT Mother you know anyway

Just a smug nt so far moter- who knows what tomorrow brings? None of mine were SN afaik in 2005

Tis in the best interst of everyone to build great schools for SN and NT kids JIC

lulumama - no I would never say that you were childish and of course, I see your point about the many heartfelt posts on this thread.

I guess what I'm saying is the first line of lucyellen's post, that people ARE using this thread as a stick with which to beat DP. I know she does this a lot, I've been on those threads. It doesn't mean to say that gives us the right to verbally attack and abuse a fellow Mumsnetter does it? The point has been made about this thread. Now I feel, others are coming on just to join in the general beating. It's distasteful.

Report her by all means, voice your concerns to MNHQ, although I'm sure they are keeping a close eye on proceedings. But don't keep up with this kind of verbal abuse now.

i couldnt agree more peachy.

Although I have to say that the rest of lucyellen's posts I feel, are ignorant and blinkered.

yay well thanks for that rhubarb

Ive said that i would be concerned that the school could cope, i think that is ligitimate, i also pointed out to DP that if she school has a high proportion of SN then it most probably copes bloody well. Yeah really ignorant.

Right, thats it - im off (again) whenever i come on fecking mumsnet that thing happens with time and gets sucked away - my DD needs her dinner! I just can't DO mumsnet - honestly, it is an evil addiction .

I would hate to think ive offended you though rhubarb.

No, not offended me. I just disagree that mums of NT kids really do worry about the proportion of SN or SEN kids in the school.

I now work in a Yr6 class, they've had SN children with them all through school and are a lovely bunch of kids, very tolerant and patient. Their parents main concerns are bullies - and it's the kids main concerns too. I would have thought that the higher the proportion of SN and SEN kids in a school, the more tolerant and respectful the children as a whole.

It's never been raised as an issue to my knowledge, either in this school, or the secondary I used to work in. And trust me, many parents aren't backwards in coming forwards. If that's how they felt, they would have no hesitation in saying so.

This has got to be one on the worst threads I have seen on here and I've seen a few.have to agree though that DP is her own worst enemy but also very manipulative.I remember looking around all the schools for ds and never once thought about this or heard anyone else even mention it.I agree with whoever said Home ed is the answer.That way everyone wins

I could never Home Ed, I see quite enough of my kids as it is!

I would have to be paid serious £ My ds is getting on my nerves as we speak

I would like to PT home ed but tried it and was not good [bush]

Am too lazy

Nice bush you've got there!

Grew it 'specially for you Rhubs

Needs a bit of pruning though, if I may be so bold!

fair enough rhubs

thing is, i don;t see te need to report DPs posts to MNHQ, or have them deleted .. it is not taht level of offensive or personal attack.

so i think it is fair to discuss on this thread, rather than starting antoher

anyhoo, am going to leave this trhead now and have a nice glass of wine!

jumente...that's a shame, because for reasons unknown, i can't help liking you.

wheres ure sense of humanitarisim DAFTPUNK I myself have a beautiful son who is currently atm in attendance in main stream education with a full statement of special educational needs - im so proud of his acheivments hes made non the less in making the grade to continue his secondary education in YES u guessed MAINSTREAM education. You should consider ure blessings in having had a child whos been lucky enough to have enjoyed good health & relatively ease of education..take a moment to consider the effort these kids with special needs kids have made to be able to stay in mainstream education when other kids have taken this as a god given right to them! [winks] look in a mirror hun beauty truely is skin deep ure silly comment in itself is quite UGLY & offensive

I probably remind you of your mother...

Wow you have the skin of a rhino