ok...will try this again, aibu to be put off a school by the amount of children with SN?

[daftpunk]

posted this in education, (Pre-school, like the twit that i am).....my ds is due to start secondary school in 2 years so we're looking around already, i am a bit put off by a school with lots of SN children, as SN also means behaviour problems....i'm not sure if i am being unreasonable.

Or man..................

Thanks Fio!

i will defend her..she has become a very good friend of mine and has supported me through a helluva lot for a long time now
i know that she is not all those things you think she is
she is a real person and she does have feelings

she started a thread which if worded differently would not have caused such an outcry, i dont think it was an unreasonable thing to ask, a lot of people have described some of their own experiences and certainly i, and am sure others, have learnt things from it

you can throw all those names at her reality, i can tell you now, she isnt any one of those things

punky...are you ok

I know this debate has ended but just wanted to add my bit anyway!

In response to the OP I do think YABU, I worked in schools for 2 years when I left school and I often found that having SN/SEN children around helped the other kids enormously, ofcourse I am not saying they are different as such but the diversity of it helps others around them realise that just because someone has X does not mean they can't do Y. It teaches and helps people to understand that behind every handicap there is a person who is perfectly capable of beinga good friend/learning/interacting and playing just like them!

My brother has ADHD and Word Dyslexic so he needs a lot of extra support in some of his classes yet excels (sp?) in others so please don't forget that just because the stats say X% does not mean that everyone of those will actually be heavily dependant on 1:1 support.

It should not affect your DS in anyway if it does then it is down to bad structure within the team rather than the children who use the service so don't be put off by it try reading up about the rep of the school rather than who attends it because trust me there are far worse out there!!!

Also wanted to add that I have actually spoken to DP on a few threads and she seems genuinely nice, yes she may have some outright views which I may or may not agree with but that does'nt mean she's a troll at the end of teh day you can't go on about diversity within schools and then turn round and say well you don't think like us so naff off, diversity works everywhere...even on mumsnet.

So Punk pick yourself up and put it down to bad wording, don't worry about what people say you are entitled to your opinion even if it does offend I'm sure we have free speech in this country...well as long as it does'nt clash with the law

lol

DP reminds me of those two kids TV presenters who would go somewhere quiet and shout "BOGIES!" and make everyone look disapprovingly at them.

I wonder if people would be supportive if the thresd had beed racist instead anti SN?

2shoes... "I wonder if people would be supportive if the thresd had beed racist instead anti SN? "

I havn't read the thread to be at all "anti SN" at all.

2shoes... where does this thread read to be anti sn

Can you honestly say this statement from the OP: "i am a bit put off by a school with lots of SN children, as SN also means behaviour problems"

is anything other than anti-SN.

What would you call it?

Reality is spot on, as usual. I'd go for option B too, have often said DP is either a troll or an idiot.

DP you are SO fake - 'your post broke me' - yes, dear, I'm sure.

don't pick on 2shoes just because she wrote "thread" when she meant "thread title"

Harley, she may well rescue baby birds for all I care, her posts on this thread are digusting, whoever's friend she is. Her views are bigoted, narrow-minded, and she even wrote a list of people she's offended as if she is proud of it. Sympathy? No.

2shoes is right, if this was racism she'd be hounded off MN like UCM. But instead it's 'naughty DP'

TBH if dp doesn't post just to inflame I think that makes it worse.

I don't think it's anti-SN, I think it's ignorance but if you are unaware how the system works then I could see how it can be daunting until you know the facts it can seem as though 1 disruptive child in the class could be bad for your childs education that's not how it is though!

There are disruptive children out there both with and without SN/SEN so there is'nt a way to escape it but the likelihood is that 'normal' children are probably more likely to disrupt class than a SN child because the latter will have a support system in place to prevent this as much as possible.

Oh and in reply to 2shoes, I would not change my opinion had it been racist/sexist whatever because like I said I like diversity, many people don't like most of my opinions but I don't care because the thing about this planet is we are all different in body and mind if we were all exactly the same life would be pretty dull!!!

See, the inflammatory, bigoted comments I could just about stomach as some immature person playing devil's advocate for kicks.

But the subsequent faux-injured SHITE just makes me want to heave.

Reality's post 'broke' you, you can't see for tears? Give me a fecking break.

jumente go heave somewhere then darlin
for someone who was staying out of her way in future, you arent doing a pretty good job of it

and who's picking on 2shoes? me?

Thanks Harley, but I found the latest comments so distasteful that it was difficult for me to leave it alone.

I want to stick around and defend this side of it, really.

harley i know your not picking on me

fio
what the fuck are you talking about

I might be prepared to think this thread was an ill advised, badly phrased but genuine request for opinions if the Op didn't have 'form"

I'd like to apologise for my post of 15:56.

I'm not sure why I feel I ought to but it was a bit unfiltered and I don't want to be so aggressive.

I still have serious doubts about the OP's intentions but will refrain from expressing them in such a deranged manner.

I do believe the powers that be have some kind of handle on it in any case.