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AIBU to believe that Hollie Steel should not have got a second chance to sing on Britain's Got Talent?

130 replies

MichKit · 30/05/2009 03:23

Especially after she had, what I perceived, a proper little temper tantrum, with stamping feet and all when she was told she would not get a second go after messing up the first time? And AIBU for being really annoyed at her mother for letting her go on into that pressure cooker of a situation when she was so clearly not ready for it?

I am a sad person to be sitting here at 3.22 am, but DD has chicken pox, and I am trying to get her to sleep without scratching

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littleboyblue · 30/05/2009 03:47

This is why there should be an age limit, which would be a shame for the children that are ready for the pressure and can handle it. I did feel for her, but if she was allowed to do it again, then they all should have been. When Greg messed up a bit, I said to dp, maybe he should stamp his feet and demand to start again, surely that's only fair?

McDreamy · 30/05/2009 07:12

Yes there was certainly an air of something not right. I wonder if the judges regret their decision putting her through, not because she wasn't better than the other chap, she was, but that it was clearly all wrong.

Too young, can't handle the pressure, little chance of winning anyway. I wouldn't let my 10 year old apply for a show as big as that. She has plenty of time.

LadyAga · 30/05/2009 07:13

I agree with you, looked like a tantrum to me. I don't like her.

Tambajam · 30/05/2009 07:25

I didn't think it was a temper tantrum. She was upset. I think she was really brave to come on again.
However I actually agree with you that it wasn't entirely fair she got a second chance. Previous acts have messed up (e.g. not brilliant rock chicks the other night) and didn't get another go. She almost certainly went through on the vote because she messed up and was brave enough to try again and people were caught up in the drama. Thankfully Aidan chap at least won and she didn't deprive someone brilliant of a place in the final.
YANBU but I still don't think it was a tantrum.

PM73 · 30/05/2009 07:51

Agree i dont think she should have had a second chance,it just goes to show that she is too young for the stress of it all.

I am glad that Aidan got through,he is a brill dancer & looks a nice young man.

I said to my dh when she was crying when she forgot her words there is no way in hell i would let my ds go on a show like that,its too much pressure for lo's.

OracleInaCoracle · 30/05/2009 07:55

tbh i wasnt entirely convinced by the "crying" there were no tears and she sounded like ds does when he wants something that he cant have. agree that shes obviously not ready and shouldnt have been put through.

purepurple · 30/05/2009 07:57

BGT is an awful programme and should be taken off the air.
I fail to see any value to it whatsoever.

Unless, you like laughing at the mentally ill.

oodlesofpoodles · 30/05/2009 08:01

I think that she should have got a second chance because she is only 10 and it would have helped her get over the embarrasment and boost her confidance. Adults can manage to overcome things like this better and it was kind to try and help her deal with it as best as she could. I don't think it was a tantrum, just complete frustration at doing badly that she couldn't handle very well.

Huge mistake to put her through. I expect they want to boost the ratings as people watch to see if it happens again

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idranktheteaatwork · 30/05/2009 08:11

I agree with op, she shouldn't have been on stage let alone given a second chance.
Granted she is talented but she is also way to immature and seemingly highly strung to be in that type of situation.

And it did look like a tantrum to me with the footstamping etc.

catwalker · 30/05/2009 08:22

I agree with OP. She was obviously going to get more votes because people would feel sorry for her and she attracted so much sympathy and attention. I wonder why they have an age limit on the X Factor (14/15 I think)but don't on this show when young kids are going to be subjected to the same sort of pressures?

sockmonkey · 30/05/2009 08:22

DH and I had this discussion last night.
The Producers said there was no time for her to start again, she wailed and stamped her feet and got her own way.

She was too young, too immature to go on the show. Bad move.

PuppyMonkey · 30/05/2009 08:26

Oh, I was sobbing my heart out about it all. Sucker that I am. But yes, you're probably right - it wasn't fair. Anyway, it's all academic because Susan will win tonight. Fix.

belgo · 30/05/2009 08:29

I've just seen it on youtube and she looks so small and vulnerable. I think they were right to allow her to start again, but I don't think she should have been allowed in the competition in the first place. She's clearly too young.

IneedacleanerIamalazyslattern · 30/05/2009 08:30

I have said all through this that there is no way I would let my dd go through something like that show at 10 years old.

I think the fact that she wanted to try again was extremely brave and think that getting to do it again and managing it was a great thing to do for her self confidence but I also don't think she should have got through. On the actual night of the royal variety performance she will not get the chance to do it again if the same thing happened to her and I think they judges as much as they were possibly giving her the sympathy vote I suppose, have to remember.

watsthestory Susan Boyle has MH issues think that might be what purple meant.

OracleInaCoracle · 30/05/2009 08:32

pm, i agree, susan WILL win, and i think its a shame. she was good, but not that good. diversity were much better and susan has had an unfair advantage what with all the media attention and hollywood support. if i were in the final tonight i would be so disheartened, because it will be the Susan Boyle Show, and there are several acts who are just as (if not more) talented.

purepurple · 30/05/2009 08:35

I think most of the people that put themselves forward for the auditions have mental health issues. Or their parents do. I find it excruciatingly painful to watch any of it.
It's a very sad indictment on our society that the height of people's ambitions is a television talent show (the sort of thing that you would avoid like the plague if you were on holiday at Butlins)
I just don't get it, any of it.

Kimi · 30/05/2009 08:55

She was not that good to start with, she is too nervous to be able to do this, her mother is a sad pushy cow and if my child had a strop like that I would hang my head in shame.

The fact that in todays society behavior like hers is not only accepted but championed is disgusting, I think Simon should have said you are the biggest brat here tonight not you are the bravest here, having a strop because you are not good enough to do something, so you get another go at it, and the sympathy vote is not brave it is not brave.

The saddest thing is that the bloke who got sent home DID have a talent but that amounts to nothing when a stropy child cries and strops.
So what is she going to do in the rest of the rounds? Cry her way through?
I would fall about laughing if she won and forgot it all in front of the queen, can't see HRH saying "oh whiny little brat go again"

purepurple · 30/05/2009 09:30

what made me laugh was Simon Cowell saying 'however we do it, we will make time'
is he God, can he control time?
Or has he the power to delay news at ten?
all for a stroppy 10 year old?
I bet she is a bloody nightmare to live with now

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WinkyWinkola · 30/05/2009 09:38

I felt the mother was a bit pushy.

Child crying in her arms and all she could do was turn around ask Simon Cowell if she could perform again. Eh?

The kid's ten. She's allowed a tantrum or a stamping of feet.

What matters is how the adults respond and that the adults are fair and treat each contestant the same way. Allowing her to try again isn't fair on the others.

But I also think she's too young for that kind of pressure. Not all ten year olds are too young but this one is. Perhaps she was even worried that her mum would give her a row about it.

soopermum1 · 30/05/2009 09:46

shouldn't have let her go on again. it took time away from the other acts and from their moments in the limelight, wasn't fair on them and her mother should have explained that to her. i work in tv so know how much running around, panicking and possibly lost revenue would have been attached to this. her mother should have discussed with her, before she entered the competition that you have one go at it. that's the entertainment business, we don't pay money to go to concerts or plays or musicals to see the performers (including children sometimes) start crying then start the whole thing again.if it had been my daughter i would have ushered her off the stage not let it drag on for her distress to be seen by the entire nation, but i can't imagine this is the first time this little girl has broken down, i'm sure she's performed on stage lots of times before and has had the chance to show nerves before, so surely her mother knew it could have happened. if she wins will she cry again on the royal variety show?

flamingobingo · 30/05/2009 09:47

I felt it wasn't fair on the other contestants. They must have found time by taking it from the following acts somehow, and it was apalling that she only got the extra time by wailing about it.

Simon Cowell's always saying, quite rightly, that if contestants on this show (and others) can't hack the pressure in the audition/heats, then they shouldn't be in that profession, at least not yet.

Hollie's going to have to deal with horrible comments and going to have to grow a very thick skin if she wants to stay in the entertainment industry, and she clearly isn't ready.

Her mother should have seen that and taken her home and fed her chocolate cake and ice-cream and watched a feel-good girly movie with her.

beanieb · 30/05/2009 09:48

I think she clearly had a tantrum when they first said she couldn't sing again, and also I didn't see tears so am not sure the crying was actually genuine.

sockmonkey · 30/05/2009 10:02

good point sooper, if she can't cope with the pressure at the semi-finals what chance does she have infront of a bigger audience at RVS?

Mother should have ushered he off and let her try again in a couple of years when she has matured a bit more... it worked for George Sampson