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AIBU to believe that Hollie Steel should not have got a second chance to sing on Britain's Got Talent?

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MichKit · 30/05/2009 03:23

Especially after she had, what I perceived, a proper little temper tantrum, with stamping feet and all when she was told she would not get a second go after messing up the first time? And AIBU for being really annoyed at her mother for letting her go on into that pressure cooker of a situation when she was so clearly not ready for it?

I am a sad person to be sitting here at 3.22 am, but DD has chicken pox, and I am trying to get her to sleep without scratching

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browntrout · 30/05/2009 10:12

I've just watched it on youtube and it is pretty awful viewing. I agree she shouldn't have had another chance - there is £100k at the end of this and I think other contestants may well feel understandably miffed about not getting another go just because they are a bit older. My 2.5 year old DD asked to watch it again - when I checked whether it was the one where she sings the whole song or the one where she cries, she said, that one (meaning the latter). I can see her being a pulling the legs off spiders kind of girl.....

posieparker · 30/05/2009 10:15

The parents should have been told during the break (before voting and results) that in the event she comes 2nd/3rd they would not choose her for another distressful audition.
I don't actually think she was very good at all, first or second time, I was much better at her age (along with many many many 10 yr olds with talent and confidence).
Dreadful exploitation by both the show and the parents.
I will interested to hear the backlash when she messes up again tonight.

bubblerock · 30/05/2009 10:19

OMG, just watched this for the first time on Youtube I'm not sure what to think to be honest, clearly a lot of pressure on the girl and the whiny tantrum (without tears) was cringeworthy! But she was just being a typical girl - unfortunately in front of millions on TV!!

FairLadyRantALot · 30/05/2009 10:25

I had quite mixed emotions about it last night about her....thought she was very sweet etc...but emotionally she wasn't able to stand the pressure, and the parnts should know that and they should not have allowed her on the show, yet....I think she is a good enough little singer, although her shaking voice last night made her sound a bit goatish, bless...
I don't think she should have gone through though....whilst the other guy wasn't that great this time, I still thinkhe would have been better in the final....

tbh, I think it is really sad that tongiht it seems to be mostly a singing and dancing competition....not really much variety is it....

lockets · 30/05/2009 10:26

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LaDiDaDi · 30/05/2009 10:30

I've also just looked at it on You Tube and I agree that she shouldn't have had another chance to sing.

BitOfFun · 30/05/2009 10:30

For all that people are criticising the pressures etc of kids and vulnerable adults being in the spotlight, lots are forgetting that this is a public space too, and are throwing around terms like "whiny little brat" etc etc about a nervous and upset little girl.

Anyone of these people's families could be reading this- I don't think it's very pleasant, or even justified...we're hardly talking about Karen Matthews or Baby P- show a bit of consideration!

FairLadyRantALot · 30/05/2009 10:36

Oh, and I didn't think she was having a tantrum, she was upset, and embaressed, etc....I think there is a difference...and I think not allowing her to at least try again and get through it, that would have broken her spirit and it would have been very hard to come back from that....you know what they say, if you fall of a horse you have to get straight back on, otherwise you never going to again...

Kimi · 30/05/2009 10:38

If she is like this at 10 just think how manipulative she will be at 20,

She is not a poor little child she IS a whiny manipulative little brat,

beanieb · 30/05/2009 10:40

it was unfair on the last contestant who was rushed through the final bits and who probably would have gone through based on her original shaky performance.

Kimi · 30/05/2009 10:43

I think in the light of day they should reverse the out come and put the bloke through not her.

I am almost tempted to watch it tonight to watch her f* up some more.

wannaBe · 30/05/2009 10:44

Simon cowell isn't God but he owns the production company so I think he could find two minutes out of the bullshit they spout to allow her to perform again.

I think they were damned either way tbh.

If they'd said no I can see the headlines "distraught ten year old not given the chance to put right," or some such.

But I don't think that she should have been put through to the final.

PurplePillow · 30/05/2009 10:48

This is the reason I will not let my 9yo go in for BGT.

My dd is a lovely singer and performs for things quite often (usually as part of a group or duet)but is not mature enough to withstand all that pressure and the huge crowds of people watching her.

After saying that if Simon was horrid to her I'd be up on an assault charge {wink]

herbietea · 30/05/2009 10:54

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onagar · 30/05/2009 11:09

I'm no fan of this type of TV, but I'd give a child a second chance in anything at any time.

Btw I remember having chicken pox even though it was a very long time ago. I found it much more comfortable if I was cold. You normally want to keep kids warm when they are ill, but in this case it made it worse.

Saggarmakersbottomknocker · 30/05/2009 11:15

I don't have a problem particularly with her having another go. But the kindest thing would have been for them to then say 'you did fab but come back when your a bit older/wiser/less likely to throw a strop on national TV'.

PartOfTheHumphreysGroup · 30/05/2009 11:18

yanbu, what a whiny little brat.

FairLadyRantALot · 30/05/2009 11:21

herbie...I think the otehr night it wasn't that he messed up, it was that his act wasn't that great, they didn't like it, and all ex'ed them before he could finish...he than said, well...the best was to come...and Amanda was saying, well, you know you have 2 mintues, build the programme up in a way that it will hold us in attention, or soemthng like that....slightly diffferent, isn't it?
Unless we talking about different scenarios, and I missed it...

tbh, I liken last nights event with Strictly come dancing, Rampakash and Karen's routine when her dress tangled in the microphone, or something....and they were allowed to go again...but that is just me...

CherryChoc · 30/05/2009 11:41

I felt when she first started to cry, she just looked terrified, I saw the foot-stamping as more that she was angry/upset/frustrated at herself, whether that was because she really wanted to go through or because her mum had drilled into her how important it was, I don't know.

I think it was a mistake to ask her just to sing though, I think it was lovely with the ballet as well and as she was moving about, concentrating on that etc, I think she would have felt less self-conscious.

AuntieMaggie · 30/05/2009 11:54

Missed this last night so am catching upon the repeat at the moment - that isn't crying - where are the tears????

Argh - am so cross that Simon gave into her!

MANATEEequineOHARA · 30/05/2009 12:01

OMG I was intregued so just watched on youtube, wrong in so many ways. God I actually felt sorry for Ant and Dec! Especilally when she cried "please", really, that must have been a horrid position for them! The whole thing was quite awful to watch.

AuntieMaggie · 30/05/2009 12:03

Just remembered the other 10 year old that got through to the final 3 on Sunday (can't remember her name) but the way she handled herself when she didn't get through compared to Hollie. She cried (with tears) but didn't whine or anything just left the stage.

IMO at 10 you're old enough to learn that you don't always get second chnaces when you mess something up. Might sound harsh but it's a life lesson we all need to learn and this girl will soon be off to secondary school where she won't get second chances or more time everytime she messes something up.

HolyGuacamole · 30/05/2009 12:08

I thought the mother was awful, poor kid, I just feel sorry for her. I do like the programme though but there should be an age limit.

When I see kids that age being paraded on telly, I just think of people like THESE. It just seems to me, to be too risky to put a child in such a vulnerable position.

StripeyKnickersSpottySocks · 30/05/2009 12:33

Was the mother begging Simon Cowell to let the girl perform again? I thought she was begging him not to say anything horrible? But admit I couldn't really make it out?

singalongamumum · 30/05/2009 12:34

YANBU. It was atrocious. She should have been taken off stage to calm down, and then told she could not do it again.

I agree it looked like a tantrum to me, but having said that she is ten and under a huge amount of pressure so it may not be her normal behaviour.

Don't agree that all contestants are mentally ill. Just think some people like being daft to make other people laugh. Some of them are a bit odd though, but horses for courses and all that!

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