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AIBU?

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AIBU to believe that Hollie Steel should not have got a second chance to sing on Britain's Got Talent?

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MichKit · 30/05/2009 03:23

Especially after she had, what I perceived, a proper little temper tantrum, with stamping feet and all when she was told she would not get a second go after messing up the first time? And AIBU for being really annoyed at her mother for letting her go on into that pressure cooker of a situation when she was so clearly not ready for it?

I am a sad person to be sitting here at 3.22 am, but DD has chicken pox, and I am trying to get her to sleep without scratching

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Blondeshavemorefun · 30/05/2009 12:41

dh got REALLY cross at her last night

it was crocodile tears - there are NO tears till the end

she should have NEVER been given another chance - NO ONE else EVER has been given a 2nd chance in semi finals and it was unfair

what was worse,was the fact the judges choose her OVER the opera bloke - who was bloody fanastic to do both high and low notes in the song!!

maybe he should have cried

SparklyGothKat · 30/05/2009 12:49

Just watched it on repeat as my sky+ failed last night... That was a tantrum to me too.. looked like what DD2 does when she can't get her way.. no way should she have gone through.. Greg was robbed

mamadiva · 30/05/2009 12:53

I don't think she should've had a second chance, not because of the tantrum etc it was probably frustration more than anything else, but because she is obviously not ready for the pressure and it won't get any easier if she wins. Although have noticed she never stops crying even though there is never any tears, quite annoying I must admit.

Agree there should be an age restriction to stop pushy parents. The way her mum just 'pushed' her back onto the stage was actually quite horrible to watch and made me a bit uncomfortable.

I have to say though am sick and tired of singers and dance acts surely the royal variety is about fun and laughs not istening to someone who should be on the XFactor!

Stavros Flatley seem to be the only act left who can actually provide some fun so hoping they win but no doubt will be a singer, namely Susan Boyle who's unattractiveness has made her famous

Tinker · 30/05/2009 12:56

This was one event where ITV would have been right (well, maybe?? ) to have rigged the voting so that she didn't come in the top 3 last night.

wannaBe · 30/05/2009 12:56

tbh am quite shocked at some of the comments on here, from people who claim to also be mothers, directed at a ten year old child, who, regardless of peoples' opinions of the reaction, lost her nerve in front of an audience of several million people, and who is now being watched again and again for entertainment value on youtube.

And people are making judgements about her personality - I assume you're all happy that people do the same of your children when they don't act as you would like them to?

I agree she shouldn't have been there, but she was, and now she will have to grow up knowing that she lost her nerve in front of an audience of millions. Do you think that will be a positive thing for her?

I think adults on the whole are fair game for criticism. But I don't think that children are, especially when it comes to making comments about the kind of people they are.

belgo · 30/05/2009 13:04

I agree wannabe. I'm sure I read that her parents originally had put her older brother into the competition, keeping Hollie out of it because they considered her too young. I wonder if they wish if they had stuck to their original decision, especially if they read any of the stuff that is on here.

mamadiva · 30/05/2009 13:05

But Wannabe the thing is she has been put onto our screens by choice so we have the right to judge it is a talent show after all, if people don't like the act then they say so and everyone will have an opinion about all the performers attitudes and personalities.

I doubt it will scar her knowing what happened on TV she will no doubt go on to get some sort of deal for a year maybe 2 if she's lucky and will probably forget it all throughout her 15 minutes of fame.

At the end of the day who's going to moan about a child who forgot about her songs on a program where howvere many million people are watching? Hardly that bad and totally excusable it's the way she and her mother reacted that shocked me.

Bonneville · 30/05/2009 13:13

Anyone remember if all the final ten acts go on the nationwide tour? Is so how will she cope with this?

Blondeshavemorefun · 30/05/2009 13:14

thing is though, why did she get nerved anyway

if you watch on sky+/you tube - she is singing ok anyway in 1st auditon

she was too young to be able to cope with the pressure, esp when against older/better people

and i blame the 3 judges for putting her through against the opera bloke

LadyAga · 30/05/2009 13:18

there's nothing brave about acting like a brat

belgo · 30/05/2009 13:24

that's not very nice Ladyaga. And possibly against the philosophy of mumsnet.

BitOfFun · 30/05/2009 13:25

Oh fgs get a grip- the way some people are talking about this kid is simply disgraceful. Plain nasty.

Lizzylou · 30/05/2009 13:30

Agree totally with BOF, Belgo and Wannabe, this is a little girl, someone's daughter/sister.

It was awful watching last night and I don't personally think she should have been given another chance, but she is hardly the bloody antchrist!

Molesworth · 30/05/2009 13:31

Storm in teacup. I don't think the judges should have put this little girl into the final, but I suppose a crying child makes good television

OTOH Aidan Davis was brilliant and I'm greatly looking forward to seeing him perform again.

FairLadyRantALot · 30/05/2009 13:42

I agreee, the way peple are down on the girl is horrible

I think people also have to remember that this was a life show, so surely it is natural to be more nervous?

tbh, I hate the way people are so quick to judge...

my son took part in a documentary a few years ago, and of course they just showed him at his worst...and misconstrued the context, and people were horrible about him, saying what a horrible boy he was and how annoying, etc...he was 3, nearly 4 ffs...

LadyAga · 30/05/2009 13:42

what is the philosophy of mumsnet belgo?

I didn't it to be nasty; but I didn't see anything brave happen last night, I saw a child have a tantrum because she thought she wasn't going to get he own way.

I regularly see a little girl running around the local park and swimming pool without a hair on her head or face but always with a big grin on her face and being absolutely delightful. I think she is brave.

Thankfully Hollie hasn't got a hope in hell of winning, the other little girl who sang and didn't get through was far more talented. Her voice was superior and she had a natural charm.

I think they were nervous due to the bad press involving Susan Boyle, BTG and Simon have been accused of taking advantage of her and they probably wanted the positive PR. I think they were damned if they do and damned if they don't but the preferred to err on the side of sticking up for a 10 year old girl.

I guess they have to play to the majority demographic.

twoluvlykids · 30/05/2009 13:44

The poor little girl was only overwrought, not having a temper tantrum!

She did well in the auditions, but that's much less pressure.

I didn't see a stroppy little girl, nor a pushy mother, I saw a child overwhelmed with signing live, the hype of it all, and a caring mother who just wanted Hollie to try again.

Don't we all encourage our children to do their best, and try again if it doesn't work the first time?

I don't think she will perform well tonight, however, and Simon Cowell was laughable when he promised to fix it for her to perform again.

Amanda Holden was very sweet to her, I thought.

FairLadyRantALot · 30/05/2009 13:44

oops, wasn't a documetary as such....ooops...not sure what it is classed as, lol

Lizzylou · 30/05/2009 13:48

Yes twoluvlykids, I thought Amanda Holden was lovely to her as well.
I found it awful to watch, it was just so sad that she was so upset and made me cry.
She looked like a cat caught in the headlights, so little and vulnerable, not some scheming minx trying to win over everyone.

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MichKit · 30/05/2009 13:51

Its funny that mum's know exactly when children are having tantrums. Unfortunately that is what I thought happened last night. IMO, the child was visibly upset when she forgot her lines, but the tantrum afterwards was not nice and very uncomfortable to watch. When I dared suggest on another forum that children can have tantrums and manipulate the situation using tears, I was blasted as an unfeeling and hard hearted person. But, in my own house, my 18 month old DD is well capable of manipulating us with fake crying. So it was really unfair imo, to let a crying child have another go, when this would have definitely not happened for adults. The thing is, I would have thought, and I still do think that its too much pressure for a LO of that age, but there have been younger kids on the show who have been amazing and composed.

I agree with one of the posters here, she should have been taken off the stage, comforted, and told firmly that she cannot have another go. Who knows, the public may have well voted her in, anyways.

But seeing the mother's pleading for her to have another go, plus being on stage with her later on, is not fair to anyone. Totally wrong decision in this case. If the mother has any sense, she will withdraw the child today, as despite the sympathetic tabloids, there is a hell of a lot of scepticism and backlash going on.

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FairLadyRantALot · 30/05/2009 13:54

Mich, some mums took it as her having a tantrum, others didn't...or are you suggesting those mothers that didn't see it as a tantrum are inferior?

Lizzylou · 30/05/2009 13:56

I didn't see it as a tantrum and have DS2 who is quite the master of tantrums

FairLadyRantALot · 30/05/2009 13:58

my 5 year old and indeed my now 6 1/2 year olds are masters of tantrums, too....luckily they do seem to reduce as they are older....phew....

LadyAga · 30/05/2009 13:58

oh for gods sake rantaolt... how on earth can you read inferiority into mich's post?

defensive!

Molesworth · 30/05/2009 13:59

I think her 'tantrum' was an expression of frustration rather than an attempt to be manipulative, and I think it's OK that she was allowed another bash, but WTF were the judges thinking when they put her through to the final?

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