to think Delia is a bit of a tosser for saying' I am not a feminist - I like men'

[bigmouthstrikesagain]

Stick to the cooking theres a dear

I'm a raving feminist and I would WEEP at the idea of never seeing an erect penis again....

ah now sprogger, you don't mean you would 'give him your six months' you mean that both of you would each take six months as independent individuals in a relationship?...

perhaps we can have a full discussion about that at the Group Meeting this evening between 7.30 and 10pm

I am glad this has provoked such AN INTERESTING DISCUSSIOM whoops one handed typing with wriggling baby...

Would is throw a little kindling on the fire to relate a small tale - I work in what has traditionally been seen as a male environment (see life on mars). A couple of weeks ago as part of a debrief (after what was percieved as an incident only because it happened to a woman) I was told, remember who you are, you're a mum!

Rofl at the thought of Colditz's salty tears as an erect penis rides off into the sunset...

I think we can generally agree that not liking cock does not a feminist make

so you are a seventies police officer tattifer -

Though from that anecdote you would be forgiven for thinking you had travelled in time

See I would probably throw a party Colditz

... and while we are on the subject TSAKADP I am typing with two hands.

... and while we are on the subject TSAKADP I am typing with two hands.

one post per hand ABD?

bigmouth wish that I had her figure and and her shiny hair... er no I don't, I look just dandy in my dungarees!

I think my colleagues needed to travel in time - back to where they belong!

on paper Delia would be considered a 'better feminist role model' than I

Delia - career woman, successful, independant and hugely influential.

Bigmouth - sahm, providing all meals and occasional ironing for dh who brings home the money.

So I may be a 1950's housewife but I am still a feminist - I do believe that it is possible to describe myself as such.

it's great that Delia has got you all talking about feminism anyway

Usual mistake people make of confusing feminist-separatist and feminist.

I'm with sprogger on the splitting of leave. If this was possible and men were encouraged to do it, it would radically change the expectation that women would do all the childcare from birth to grave. I also believe it would reduce instances of absentee fathers because they would have a closer bond with their children.

I was only vaguely listening in to Delia this am and will listen again when it´s available. But my impression was that she said: "I´m not a feminist" (FULL STOP) and then moved on to "I like men" .... and moved on to something else..

My impression of what she said was that feminism wasn´t particularly relevant to her (given she is career woman, successful, independant and hugely influential...) She was conscious that men are treated better than women, so asks her dh to do certain things for her to get a better result.

She is a feminist success story really when you think about it.. She hasn´t had to deal with the issues most of us do.

Gah! Is her memory really that short then? Can she not remember when she first started her successful career that she would not have been able to get her own mortgage? And that 30 years before that she would have had to stop working once she got married?

I'm going to have to be kind and assume it's early dementia...

But not everybody worries about issues that do not affect them directly! And she´s not a political animal is she. As a feminist myself, I am not at all surprised about her viewpoint on this. (And I´m surprised you are as I don´t know ONE woman who would call herself a feminist)

I would and do! But who's even asking these days?

: )
Are we a very exclusive club? Who´s in?

I think it was the weak/ ignorant reasons she gave for not being a feminist that irked me. She was talking about liking men as a reason not to describe herself as a feminist sacher otherwise it would have been a rather odd non sequiter iykwim? Its not like she said 'I am not a feminist. I like cheesecake'!

I'm not a feminist, I don't like dungarees

(Half of that statement was untrue)