to think Delia is a bit of a tosser for saying' I am not a feminist - I like men'

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Stick to the cooking theres a dear

silly woman. actually lawks i think she is a bit of a dimwit.

I agree bigmouth. It is scary how many young women reject feminism..............and I suppose if you look at the sheer numbers of plastic surgery procedures and the general "getting your tits out is the best way to be 'successful'" attitude amongst young girls, then I suppose feminism has failed on many levels !

feminism is definitely being countered by "girl power" (which IMO seems to be the "opportunities" to star in reality TV, become a celeb, release an album but never follow it up because you have no talent, sleep with a footballer, release your (semi) autobiography).

Was appalled that Garvey didn't pull her up on it though. Don't know why she just let her bleat on without challenging it. Jenni Murry wouldn't have let it pass.

Yes it is scary as being a strong independant women means being surgically enhanced and preserved - because beauty is valued more highly than personality or brains in a woman still.

And I don't see that changing any time soon.

Thats generous fio - but isn't alcohol a truth drug?

I heard some women were defacing advertisements for plastic surgery on the Tube........see here

I quite fancy joining in the fun !

I think maybe she just isn't too bright...

I agree with Pruners. Its kin dof up to feminism to change to get the right message out as quite recently, it seems feminism doesn't like many women either.

I watched that Rise of the Super Chef thing that was on a little while ago and Delia was on there abnging on about how she's not a sell out and you won't see her putting her name to any products or you wont see any gimmicks in her programmes.

I think she must have forgotten her last book 'Delia How To Cheat' and she says shes not a sell out..............

Shame really as she is a very skilled chef.

He he, you all need to be reading Ladies Against Feminism - Delia would sound like Gloria Steinem then.

Delia's "how to boil an egg"
And what's worse is I think my mum bought it (or had it bought for her) - who has been cooking all her life

Oh dear, and I do so love her cookery books

Its not that feminism doesn't like women: it doesn't like what cultural pressures are put on women.

If we take the plastic surgery example..I don't vilify any women who has plastic surgery - there is no surprise that women do this considering the climate. But I do question the forces that lead her to think that it was necessary for her to mutilate her functioning body. And for me, there is a functional aspect to plastic surgery in attempting to make yourself more sexually attractive........but mutilation is taking it too far and for it to be acceptable for women to have to go through this to become sexually attractive is just wrong diddly wrong.

Ahh Delia, bless her. Even as I rely on her cookery course book and seem to haul it out every other day, her completely old-fashioned view of the world and mimsy take on things really irritates me.

It's funny isn't it because she actually leads the kind of life many a feminist would hold up as a shining example. It's really got nothing to do with how you feel about men.

Everybody seems to have a different idea of what feminism is though.
Some of the working mothers on here, for example, think that the sahm's are slaves and servants to their men.
They certainly don't respect women choosing how to live own lives.
I was also quite disturbed by the advice to boys thread on here- the first one was when a woman says no she means it- really? and others followed about respecting your wife- if they are decent people surely they will do this anyway?
I do worry about boys growing up with that kind of negativity surrounding them.

Anyway, that's all a different issue isn't it?
Maybe she thinks feminist means lesbian a la ali g

Delia always says she is a journalist, not a cook, in real life

outs self as neighbour of Delia

I am currently a SAHM and have always considered myself a feminist many disagree as mrsG has said
it is quite dangerous imo to discount feminism when clearly there is no real equality and women seem to be more objectified than ever.

I can't get my head around the idea of putting your tits out and rolling about drunk is somehow equated with liberation

The point for me of feminism is that it isn't a fixed ideology it has to move with the times (while holding onto core values) so it does mean different things to different people. It is not a political party with a fixed party line - or at least imo it should not be.

That would be lovely if if were true Peas. More and more to seems to me however that feminists wrote the script of feminisms story in the 70s, and refuse to devate from it, even though we live in a very different world today.

What it refuses to acknoledge, is that many of the 'cultural pressures' that were there in the 70s have all but gone - thanks to feminism. But stil it refuses to acknowledge womens agency in the choices they make today if they happen choose a different path from the male 'ideal'.

As for augmention, surgical or otherwise - men and women have always done this and mena and women will always do whatever they can to be attractive to the opposite sex, to meet the ideal in what the desired sex wants. That's not a tyranny, thats just sex. I wouldn't call cosmetic surgery mutlilation either. If so, all surgery is mutilation.

Delia introduced me to the joy of cooking as a student through her Cooking for One book and perhaps in a way I think she did a lot for feminism by making young men at the time feel that they could and should cook for themselves and that has transferred with them into their later life.

I hate the whole girl power idea and utterly reject it's shallow materialistic philosophy but I do stil wonder what 'feminism' actually is.

Well funding for women's studies has ended in the UK. I think this has a lot to do with feminism becoming intellectually redundant and drowing in post-structuraism and cultural relativism. If there was ever a feminist crisis, it's now. But where are they?