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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To make DS2 clean the entire house?

233 replies

MrsSnape · 19/12/2008 17:50

In the past few months DS2 (7) has:

Kicked a hole in his bedroom door
drawn all over his bedroom door in felt tip/biro
wiped poo on the bathroom wall because he couldn't be bothered to change the bog roll
Dropped endless food on the living room floor.
Spilt drinks all over the sofa
Wiped red paint all over the hallway wall
Riped my leather computer chair because he was 'bored'
Got red 'fake blood' all over DS1's carpet which will not come out
Wiped grubby hands on the sofa instead on going to wash them properly

And just now he had bolognese on his hands and I caught him casually wiping it on living room radiator.

Sick to death of it, he has no respect for anything.

I'm thinking tomorow I will give him so anti-bacterial wipes and send him around the house cleaning from top to bottom. Just like I have to every day.

AIBU?

OP posts:
jollyoldstnickschick · 21/12/2008 13:02

dsrplus8 Dont even try and justify yourself to aam its none of her business she twists everything anyway.

All shes done on this thread is blame poor parenting and speak shite,she doesnt understamd sn and in her ignornce doesnt want to.

aam I have said to you what i needed/wanted to say that you are a nasty vindictive person ,dont even try and diagnose me before you dig into p.a.b look for simple irony and sarcasm!! or are you being melodramatic???

lily I'm not going to discuss how some people on benefits manage their limited finances carefully and so can afford to buy 'extravagant' things but these fmilies tend to have no mortgage,utilities are pre paid,and have had to budget for food wisely so can save up all tear round to afford these treats - why mrssnape should justify it to you or me isnt in the op.

LilyPotter · 21/12/2008 13:04

Might not be in the OP, but it wouldn't be the first time a thread has gone off topic.

dsrplus8 · 21/12/2008 13:13

jolly .your right she is speaking shite , more shite then a toddlers nappy!lol,your spot on about some on benefits saving all year, ive a friend who puts £5 aside every week so she can give her dd a gift at christmas and birthdays, and pay for her school trips ect, this woman is unable to work as she has a terminal illness and worries about setting her daughter a bad example,...but how many employers would be happy with her bringing her oxygen tank to work? i think aam is a troll/or trolling!

alfiemamagotstuckupthechimney · 21/12/2008 13:35

dsrplus, I think your right, I actually think she is a bully, been flamed and now trying to talk herself out of it, she is showing herself to be very ignorant.

I have also (oh god here we go again, Im being so self absorbed these days) bought a wii for the family, I thought it was a great idea.

dsrplus8 · 21/12/2008 13:48

i do shared gifts too. its a great way of helping our kids get along with each other...all our dcs play the wii we have , and its one of the things our ds3 does well and "concentrates on" -yehaa we found something that helps a wee bit. OP wiis are fab, even the grandparents can join in and play with the kids!>>

aam · 21/12/2008 13:48

Sorry to burst your bubble - I'm not trolling.

To get flamed by the likes of you lot is a pleasure!

I'll say this again:

The OP admitted her parenting or lack of could have lead to her sons current habits.

Even though she said he has dyspraxia ( I never denied this) MY POINT IS THE OPs PARENTING IS AT THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEM AND NOT NECESSARILY DYSPRAXIA.

Hope that's clear

This might be hard for the OP to hear but why is everyone else so annoyed?

aam · 21/12/2008 13:55

Several of you sound insecure about your own parenting.

It has been known for parents to excuse their childrens behaviour by saying 'It's not his fault he is ....'

The particular condition probably genuinely do have is used as an excuse for anything and everything.

I saw it first hand in my years of teaching.

The mothers were typically neurotic ( ring any bells?)

Sad to say the did their children no favours.

dsrplus8 · 21/12/2008 13:57

you shouldnt need to ask? stop playing innocent now. you cant go insult people and think it ok and everyone will still like you, are you aware of what you are posting aam? you infered that my adhd is a result of poor parenting , an excuse for bad behaviour. go away and google adhd and dyspraxia , and find out what you are talking about and stop talking shite. you still havent answered my question of "whats your problem with larger families?" perhaps you are envious madam?

dsrplus8 · 21/12/2008 13:59

oh your a teacher? NOW we are neurotic? teachers like you do children no favours, you are a troll

alfiemamagotstuckupthechimney · 21/12/2008 14:00

So if your not a troll, you must just be a genuinley lovely person (not)

If you cannot see that your comments are disrespectful to not only the op but to people with sn children, then there is no hope for you and this thread has shown you up no end!!!.

The op has clearly also exp that she hasnt been on the ball lately due to depression, this is not her saying that she doesnt know how to parent. It also means that maybe the op doesnt realise that many of the traits could be related to the Dyspraxia, which is an sn (something that you did deny the child to have).

I have not seen anything in your posting that would help the op at all, apart from making her upset. Like she has said its a good job she is thick skinned (and why would she say that if you did not upset her).

juuule · 21/12/2008 14:02

"To get flamed by the likes of you lot is a pleasure!"

My, my you are feeling superior.

aam, surely you can see that there are ways of saying things. You have come across as very judgemental and and somewhat holier than thou in some of your posts. Whether you meant to or not, that's how it has appeared.
Possibly to the point that if anyone agreed with any part of the things you were saying they would still distance themselves from you due to the tactless and sometimes nasty way you "said" them.

Yes, sometimes it helps to be 'straight' about things but not in the derisory manner that you seem to have adopted on this thread.

Yes, MrsSnape admits that she may have parenting issues so I'm not sure why you keep saying things such as "This might be hard for the OP to hear" Whether it is or not she appears to be taking it onboard so surely move on.

jalopy · 21/12/2008 14:05

I think aam speaks alot of sense.

aam · 21/12/2008 14:07

dsrplus8 Jealous?

If I wanted a big family I would have one.
I'm going to keep my opinions on big families to myself.

I have grown up in one.

I guarantee in the future your many children will let you know the effect of large family dynamics.

alfiemamagotstuckupthechimney · 21/12/2008 14:07

You were a teacher poor children.

You have probably just upset the minority (your words) of the sn parents, good luck to you.

Dominique07 · 21/12/2008 14:08

age 7 is old enough to recognise bad behaviour - he is not bad, but each incident should be calmly dealt with.
If he has made a mess on the carpet he should clean it and never be allowed messy things there again.
Is he the sort to be embarrassed/upset when told off by you or the teacher?

juuule · 21/12/2008 14:10

And got the attention of a couple of large family posters.

aam · 21/12/2008 14:10

Thank you Jalopy.

Really hope I haven't caused offence to large families.

Just my personal experiences. BTW, at the time I loved it - never knew any different and there was a lot of love in our household.

alfiemamagotstuckupthechimney · 21/12/2008 14:11

I dont get it Aam you have said here

By aam on Sat 20-Dec-08 11:56:54
I'm not denying some children are more challenging than others. Believe me I know,I have four!

Sorry but to me you have more children than me, I would say 4 children is a LARGE Family

TROLL TROLL TROLL

aam · 21/12/2008 14:15

alfiemamagotstuckupthechimney

I don't think I have upset all SN parents.

I'm sure some people accept there is more to all children than their SN.

You seem hellbent on seeing this as THE defining feature of the OPs ds and probably your own poor ds.

He's just a nessy 7 year old without boundaries.

aam · 21/12/2008 14:17

4 isn't that much lol.

I come from a bigger family.

It's a very view.

aam · 21/12/2008 14:18
  • personal view.
aam · 21/12/2008 14:20

God alfiemamagotstuckupthechimney you are so narrow minded,

Just because I din't agree with you doesn't mean I'm a troll.

alfiemamagotstuckupthechimney · 21/12/2008 14:23

He is a 7 year old with DYSPRAXIA (look it up) which means he has poor fine and gross motor skills, he is not messy because he wants to be.

And dont you dare suggest anything about my poor ds. The fact that my poor ds cannot walk properly, how can that be my parenting skills.

Well perhaps when you are talking about the dynamics of a large family, you should say what you mean by large, the average family is 2.5 children so anything over would be considered large.

alfiemamagotstuckupthechimney · 21/12/2008 14:30

No the fact you dont know what your saying, could make you a troll.

If I am narrow minded, Id rather be that than a bully.

dsrplus8 · 21/12/2008 14:40

Aam , im am sorry that your childhood in a large family has coloured your opinons of them in a way. as for my children .... time is telling already.... dd1 has highers and is sitting more, dd2 is dux in her high school, dd3 is at primary and doing secondary level coursework having compleated the required levels two years early, ds1 and ds2 have dyslexia, but both excell at sports and drama and currently in local boys football teams, ds3 is adhd and is responding well to non drug therapies, diet and behaviour management, ds4 is 3 and started simple addition sums and basic reading ,dd4 has delayed development/non verbal undergoing diagnostic/ genetic tests and having salts therapy.i am smug in the knowledge that my kids perform to the best of thier abilities and i am assured of their happiness, both dh and i reguarly tell dc we love them, are proud of them and are lucky we are to have them and how fab it is that they show ech other affection and help each other. i am lucky, now answer me this please, how do you compare that to your experiance of a large familly ? i think its immature of you too assume everyone has the same experiances, it is true we become who we are as a result of our upbringing(partially),but ultimatly it is our choice to let it be positve affect or negative regardless of circumstances(i myself grew up in a large family ,but also was abused and neglected as a child, i refused to let a horrendous time impact on the rest of my life, if i had the abuser would have won, and still would have, sorry off on a tangent again)Aam , you need to think before you post.

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