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To find that parents with kids aged 10 insisting their children believe in Santa are creepy?

209 replies

ssd · 14/12/2008 09:28

I know of some mums who insist their kids believe in santa and the kids are taller than me, whats wrong with kids NOT believing in santa?, doesn't make you a bad parent

OP posts:
TheVirginGoober · 14/12/2008 22:44

Myth?? MYTH?

PAH!!

TLESinChristmasStockings · 14/12/2008 22:46

Goober i too know the truth PAH some people eh

gypsyme · 14/12/2008 22:49

My ten yr old asked me tonight 'pinky promise no crosses counted is santa real' I said 'pinky promise no crosses counted he is' am I a self indulgent manipulative parent and now going to hell?

gypsyme · 14/12/2008 22:53

Same child is petrified of every small creak and groan our house makes every night so I do ponder on her willingness to allow the stranger know as FC into her room. Similarly am astonished that I have managed to pull it off each year after a few glasses of bubbly and a neurotic child who hears the wind before it has even rolled off the coast a hundred miles away . . . . .

TLESinChristmasStockings · 14/12/2008 23:01

Is Santa Claus real?
In: Christmas, Myths and Folklore, Saints [Recategorize]

Is Santa Real?
There are different opinions on this. Here is what contributors have had to say:

Santa Claus is as real as one wishes him to be. If you believe in Santa then he is real. If you don't believe in him, then he isn't real. He is real as long as you believe.

Yes, Santa Claus is real because he was already declared a saint. Therefore, if he is a saint, he can perform miracles such as giving gifts to a mass number of good children.

I really think that Santa Claus is totally real. But I am only 6 years old so you might not believe me. By the way my mom is typing this because I can't read and I am just saying this to mom and she is typing.

Yes, he is real! Can anyone else give presents to good little girls and boys and make it home in time for dinner?

Is Santa Claus real? Yes! Santa Claus is real! And I'm going to find him. I'm part of a growing team of "Santa Seekers" who intend to prove to the world that Santa Claus is real. We'll use science and faith respectively. And you can join us! Is Santa Real? Maybe you should join our "Search for Santa!" Or watch me in the new film.

Santa Claus is totally totally real. There are about two billion children in the world (people under the age of 18). But Santa doesn't appear to handle Muslim, Hindu, Jewish, and Buddhist children. That reduces the workload on Santa to about 15%, now with a total of 378 million children is easier. He has 31 hours of Christmas time to do so. That is 91.8 million homes. He goes East to West because of time diffrences. So therefore he is real.

"Santa Claus is as real as one wishes him to be".

Yes, Santa WAS a real man. He lived in Turkey.

The existence of Santa Claus is only as subjective as anybody else's.

If you are ten or under, yes he is. Don't worry about what others say. Go back to what you are doing. If your older than ten then Santa is the giving spirit of Christmas. It's about giving to others and being selfless. The spirit of Santa is in us all and as long as we remember what Christmas is really about then yes he is real.

Santa Claus, in the United States is real to almost every child. The story of this magical man that each year drops from the chimney with gifts, is born from a very real man named Nicholas,later called Saint Nicholas, who lived in the third century AD. He spent his life devoted to giving everything he had to those less fortunate

SEE SANTA IS REAL I KNEW MY DAD NEVER LIED TO ME!!! HUMPH

nooka · 14/12/2008 23:37

I've never believed in Father Christmas, it's not part of our Christmas tradition, and never will be. My children at 8 and 9 love Christmas just as much as their "believing" peers, and are in all other ways fairly similar. It has no bearing on the quality of your parenting, or the "grownupness' of your children. I think the lengths some people go to to preserve this bit of fantasy are rather odd, but that's their business, not mine. We have presents that we give to each other, the children write lists with ideas for the family, and I do stockings. They know I choose everything inside to give them pleasure, and they appear to like that idea. Christmas for me does not equal Santa. It is about being with your family and friends, sharing good food and showing your love for each other. Santa may be the icing on the cake for some, but it is not a requirement.

TisTheSeasonToBeSolo · 14/12/2008 23:42

My 10yo Ds is shocked that some kiddies in his class(and most are older than him)say that FC isn't real. I asked him what he thought about it and he still believes. Good for him. Kids grow up far too quickly these days and it's lovely that there is still some magic around him...Oh and he's put a tooth under his pillow tonight!!!!

nooka · 14/12/2008 23:53

I asked my children about this after KatieDD's thread. They looked at me really oddly when I asked if children talked about FC at school. Apparently in their circles they don't. More interested in who scored the touchdown (we are now in Canada) or the impending nuptials of Night and Black Beauty (stuffed animals), and who kicked down their snow arch (the wedding was going to be underneath). ds (9) thinks milk and cookies etc is quite funny, but does not seem bothered that we have never done it. He told me that the kid who was picked to be Santa in the recent school play was not impressed about it (he's 8). dd on the other hand likes to hold all sorts of beliefs regardless of whether we encourage them or not.

LolaTheShowgirl · 15/12/2008 01:27

My mum screams out 'who's coming' to me every few days in the run up to christmas and gets (jokingly) upset if I mention anything about him not existing! She remembers how special it used to be, I think and wants to keep that magic alive...and i'm 24

TLESinChristmasStockings · 15/12/2008 08:50

Lets see

Children of 10/11 believe in Father Christmas

OR

Children of 10/11 are deciding what gang, weapon, drug, drink, car, etc to use or damage

I know which I would prefer!!!

silentnightplease · 15/12/2008 09:19

This is my first Christmas on Mumsnet and oh how I love it!

But....

It seems that the whole do your kids believe in santa issue is just another WOHM/SAHM - breast or bottle, childcare or no childcare argument.

Is that an obvious statement? It never stops surprising me how mean some people can be about a time of year that is supposed to be full of joy. My DD is 10 and her and alot of her friends still beleive.

I don't care. I don't believe in god but I would never tell her he's not real. She can beleive what she wants as long as she's not hurting anyone else.

kittybrown · 15/12/2008 09:21

My grandparents grew up in an isolated village in the part of the Neterlands called Zeeland. Part of the christmas tradition is the visit of Saint Nicklaus. He comes on the 6th of December. It's one of my favourite stories of theirs. Anelder formo the village would dress up as St. Nick, big white beard, red cloak, white robe and a mitre. He would ride into the village on a horse with his helper Schwartz Piet (Black Pete). Then he'd get out his two books one gold and one black. The good children's names would be in the gold one but there would always be one name in his black book usually a teenage boy whom Pete would sweep up into his big sack and load onto the horse. St nick would give out sweets to the rest and leave with the boy in the sack. The boy in the sack would stay at someone's house outside the village for a few days then reappear saying how he'd escaped and vowed to be good from now on.

My Grandmother has such fond memories of it. It was like a rite of passage. When you were young you totally believed it and were swept up in the drama of it and as you got older she says you played your part in it nobody ever said he wasn't real and from about 10 years upwards the best part was watching the younger children totally fall for the boy in the sack bit.

To me it sounds totally magical.

largeginandtonic · 15/12/2008 09:25

The twins just found out this year (10 in October) i was distraught They had been told by some little horror in the playground.

I am over it now > and in fact they have been superb about making Xmas all the more magical for the younger siblings

I was all for denial and dh said it was only fair to tell them i must point out.

lottiejenkins · 15/12/2008 09:40

Nooka you've just reminded me of last Christmas Eve, my ds pulled a tooth out and triumphantly burst into Grannies sitting room to sign to us (hes deaf) that the Tooth Fairy AND Father Christmas would be visiting that night! Lol LOl Lol!!

cory · 15/12/2008 09:56

In Sweden, Santa comes to your door. So of course, they are going to be that little bit younger when they start working out that that face behind the beard looks rather familiar and that it's funny that Granddad always has to have his nap at this particular time in the evening

But then follows many happy years of practising the suspension of disbelief, because this is a play that depends on everybody acting their part.
I see no harm in it.

edam · 15/12/2008 10:20

I know FC is real and I know he's my Dad! Dad does FC every year. Has been doing it since the 70s, originally at our village hall and now on the Severn Valley Railway. I rumbled him at the hall when I was tiny (really, how did they expect me NOT to recognise my own father?!).

It's rather lovely having FC for a Dad although sadly it doesn't mean I get any extra presents. I hope ds finds out what adults think in time to see Grandad being FC - will keep the magic going in a different way.

Keep your fingers crossed for this year, he's had investigations for an enlarged prostate and is not sure he can cope with children bounding on his knee.

TisTheSeasonToBeSolo · 15/12/2008 10:30

Hope your Dad ~ Erm, I mean Father Christmas is ok edam.

edam · 15/12/2008 11:11

Oh, he's fine, it's all benign. Just the investigations and catheter (now out) have left him with a few problems.

I had to restrain myself from saying 'now you know what it's like!' when he got cystitis as a result and was begging for sympathy...

PingpingsatonSantasface · 15/12/2008 11:16

YABU

Is Santa not real? I am 24 my Mum still insists that he is real.

threewisemonkeys · 15/12/2008 11:32

mumsanutter can I swap you my 8 yo DS for your eldest? - he sounds like a treasure! xx

Nighbynight · 15/12/2008 11:40

YANBU !

ChopsTheDuck · 15/12/2008 11:46

yabu.

They have to find out for themselves eventually, you can't dictate a cut of age.

My dd (8) had me all worried last week when she announced she knew who father christmas was. I waitied til we were alone, then asked her who it was, and she replied - st nicholas!!

sticksantaupyourchimney · 15/12/2008 12:55

Now I think people who try to keep their children 'young' can be a bit creepy. The idea of a prolonged childhood full of ignorance 'innocence' basically dervies from middle-class Victorian sentimentality anyway (poorer children were less indulged because their families couldn't afford to indulge them: they were needed to work).
I don;t think there's anything wrong with telling children stories and discussing mythical figures, be they the Tooth Fairy, Jehovah, Father Christmas, Ganesh or [insert names of all the others you can think of here], and pretend games are lots of fun, but there's no need to make such a big deal of it, surely.

tootyflooty · 15/12/2008 13:06

I spied my dad filling my stocking when I was 7, i wasn't distraught, as long as I had a full stocking at the end of my bed and pressies under the tree I didn't care who brought them! My 10 year old twins ask if santa is real, i just smile and say well I don't fill your stockings, I think they know really but just like to humour us olds!, the same for the tooth fairy, they know jolly well it is me, but I just never admit it when they ask. Nothing creepy at all, it is just a bit of fun after all. I did ask my 17 year old recently if he believed in the tooth fairy, obviously he didn't, so i showed him all the teeth i had kept from him. (may be that is creepy- they are even labled with the date they came out !!

piscesmoon · 15/12/2008 13:18

They must all be very good sleepers-I simply stayed awake to find out-while pretending to be asleep! It wasn't difficult-I was too excited to sleep anyway.