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to feel uncomfortable being served by woman with tourettes that kept swearing at me?

633 replies

racmac · 30/11/2008 17:30

I went to a well known high street store and was served by a lady who had tourettes. I have no problem with this or any of her ticks BUT she kept saying cunt and wanker - i dont use these words in front of my children so dont expect others to AIBU in expecting that she shouldnt be serving customers?

It was rather disconcerting to be told "thats £20.00 please, cunt, wanker"

Racmac

OP posts:
luckylady74 · 30/11/2008 20:23

But paedophiles hurt small children - how silly was that analogy [must get off this thread]?

twocutedarlings · 30/11/2008 20:23

sparkles comments like

would you really want your child as an adult to be employed in a position where every day he is 'different'??

Are never going to go down well with parents who have DCs with SNs is it? no matter how much experiance you have.

jimjamshaslefttheyurt · 30/11/2008 20:24

onager are you completely insane or just incredibly ignorant about disability?

SpirobranchusGiganteus · 30/11/2008 20:24

There are two massive differences between paedophiles and people with tourettes.

One is that paedophiles attack and hurt people, performing an action that is illegal. Whereas someone with tourettes just says something disturbuing or makes a disturbing nouse.

The other is that with tourettes the action is literally involuntary, whereas with paedophilia is is a case of controlling ones desires -- difficult but not impossible.

I wouldn't have a prob being served by someone with tourettes and the comparison with paedophilia is awful.

needmorecoffee · 30/11/2008 20:25

who decides what is 'acceptable' behaviour?

If you are offenend by a disabled person then take yourself off somewhere else and spare them your presence. If they want to do the job and with support (whatever is neccassary) are capable then they should do the job.
dd is quite taken with the lay with physical impairment sailing round the UK in her adapted boat. Don't tell her there's things disabled people can't do!

twocutedarlings · 30/11/2008 20:26

onager How can you possibly compair a peado to a lady with a disability?

How fecking sick!!

ruddynorah · 30/11/2008 20:26

onager your words are unacceptable to me, can i restrict you from posting?

BouncingTurtle · 30/11/2008 20:26

Absolutely disabled people should be given equal opportunity to work - but according to their ability.
I mean, you wouldn't have someone who has epilepsy driving a HGV? His/her condition could put their life and the lives of others at risk.
I don't think it is appropriate to have someone whose tourette's manifest itself this way in a customer facing position. I don't think it is fair to this woman to put her into such a position - if she does have Tourette's she is probably aware of what she is doing but powerless to do anything about it and I imagine it could be quite distressing to know that people were judging her - especially if they have no knowledge of her condition.

onager · 30/11/2008 20:27

jimjamshaslefttheyurt, if your job involves speaking to people and you can't control your speech then you cannot do the job properly. How hard is that to understand?

hercules1 · 30/11/2008 20:27

Oh god, why on earth would you compare disability to abusing childnre [shakes head in disbelief]

needmorecoffee · 30/11/2008 20:27

comparing behaviour a disabled person cannot help (wtehr swearing or drooling or muscle spass) with paedophilia?
FFS

myredcardigan · 30/11/2008 20:27

JJ, I'm not sure what you mean or maybe I didn't explain what I meant.

If my kids met your son and asked why he was behaving in that way, I would simply say that he probably couldn't help it and needed us to understand that. They would be fine with that because they wouldn't associate his behaviour with something that naughty people do. In the way that they've been told that about swearing.

Forgive me, but if I saw a 9yr old behaving as your son does I would automatically assume that he had a disability.(Most probably assume ASD) I wouldn't tut nor tell my children that 'that boy is being naughty.'

But as I said, I guess the distinction is my problem.

jimjamshaslefttheyurt · 30/11/2008 20:28

Onager is so clearly frighteningly ignorant I think her comments should just be laughed at (once you've picked your jaw up off the floor).

hercules1 · 30/11/2008 20:28

Your little darlings are not going to melt because someone swore in their presence. Really, they're not.

Anna8888 · 30/11/2008 20:28

Obviously "socially acceptable behaviour" is not a cut-and-dried thing, and one's tolerance for less usual sorts of behaviour varies according to circumstance.

For me, swearing at customers is probably just about acceptable in a person with SN. But we are getting to the dividing line with "unacceptable". Personally, masturbating on public transport is "unacceptable". But people are too frightened to complain. So they just get off the bus.

needmorecoffee · 30/11/2008 20:28

people with tourettes speak just fine. But they have tics. Others should treat the tic in the same way as you'd treat a muscle spasm or CP noise. Ignore it.

luckylady74 · 30/11/2008 20:28

The person with Tourettes can speak perfectly well - they also swear.

They do not rape small children

How hard is that to understand?

Libra1975 · 30/11/2008 20:29

Why do people keep comparing this lady to someone whose condition/disability could cause harm in certain jobs?

hercules1 · 30/11/2008 20:30

The commercial is awful because disabled children are not sad, pitiful beings who cant do anything and are in the dark and shunned by happy able bodied children.

onager · 30/11/2008 20:31

What is this vile prejudice agasint paedophiles? they are only people with a 'condition' that makes them different from other people. You should be accepting them into your lives and homes in the name of equality. How vile it is to see such prejudice in such otherwise sensible and caring people.

jimjamshaslefttheyurt · 30/11/2008 20:31

onager- how hard is it to understand that employers cannot discriminate for reasons of disability without risking being fined.

You might like to run some sort of fascist state where disabled people are kept away from the nice 'normal' people together with paedophiles but you're not allowed to.

Read the bloody DDA you can't do it

TheFalconInThePearTree · 30/11/2008 20:31

I don't think I've seen that commercial. Is it recent?

hercules1 · 30/11/2008 20:31

Please onager. You are being incredibly offensive comparing disablity to paediphilia.

ruddynorah · 30/11/2008 20:32

i think because it's harming these people's children's ears or something. they don't know how to cope with a person with a tic that involves a swear word.

myredcardigan · 30/11/2008 20:32

Bloody hell!

Please can we acknowledge than there are more than 2 camps on this thread? Just because I was/am unsure does not mean I stand with the 'hide them all away' nutters.