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to feel uncomfortable being served by woman with tourettes that kept swearing at me?

633 replies

racmac · 30/11/2008 17:30

I went to a well known high street store and was served by a lady who had tourettes. I have no problem with this or any of her ticks BUT she kept saying cunt and wanker - i dont use these words in front of my children so dont expect others to AIBU in expecting that she shouldnt be serving customers?

It was rather disconcerting to be told "thats £20.00 please, cunt, wanker"

Racmac

OP posts:
Seuss · 01/12/2008 12:58

ew!

Seuss · 01/12/2008 12:58

Who'd want to be a swimming instructor anyway.

TheLadyEvenstar · 01/12/2008 13:00

What a sad society we live in!

I honestly thought everybody was aware of equal opportunities.

Maybe we should learn to accept people more! Maybe because I was brought up with disability I am more accepting of people being just who they are. I hate the words disability/disabled/invalid/handicapped/not normal etc.

People with any impairment are not disabled..they may be more abled in some things than you and I, they are not invalid...a bus pass becomes invalid after the date of use not a person.

I hate peoples ignorance and yes hate is a strong word but it is hatred for being so ignorant to the fact that we all differ in many ways. Hair/eyes/skin colour/ just about everything.

I would not bat an eyelid if this lady served me hell she has more confidence than I do...I have nothing impairing me BUT I have zero confidence. SO hats off to her.

fancyliontamer · 01/12/2008 13:00

i'm sure this has moverd on from yesterday, (haven't time to read it all,) but still think someone with this condition wouldn't be allowed to work with the public. if i swore (involuntary) would i be allowed to be a teacher? i am all for people with disabilities having equal opportunities, but in certain situtions that really isn't possible is it.

Seuss · 01/12/2008 13:00

Not implying people who like to swim in poo/wee/toe-nails/plasters/long hair and menstrual blood shouldn't be allowed to if they want to. Personal choice. Although there may be some health and safety issues...

VinegarTinselTits · 01/12/2008 13:03

Fgs a couple of swear words arent going to make your kids ears fall of

There are far worse things that might, like frost bite or listening to spice girl records

Seuss · 01/12/2008 13:04

If my ds is shouting the 'f-word' every few minutes should I keep him home from school?

I'd still take him in a shop, I'd take him to the till, I wouldn't expect anyone to refuse to serve him - what's the difference? It's just a word - he doesn't even know what it means.

VictorianSqualor · 01/12/2008 13:06

fancyliontamer, it is possible though. With the right understanding from the people she works amongst and serves it is perfectly possible.

needmorecoffee · 01/12/2008 13:08

the use of 'allowed' makes mes heave when refering toa disabled person.

wannaBe · 01/12/2008 13:08

"i'm sure this has moverd on from yesterday, (haven't time to read it all,) but still think someone with this condition wouldn't be allowed to work with
the public. if i swore (involuntary) would i be allowed to be a teacher? i am all for people with disabilities having equal opportunities, but in certain
situtions that really isn't possible is it."

You are wrong. According to the disability discrimination act, unless someone's disability will be a health and safety risk, i.e. a blind driving instructor, or probably a chef who had a disability that caused him/her to spit involuntarily, an employer legally cannot discriminate on the basis of disability.

There are of course certain jobs that are more difficult for people with certain disabilities, e.g. someone with no speach working in a call centre, or a blind person working on a till (as these are not accessible),but if a candidate is the best qualified for a job then that candidate's disability cannot be used to prevent them getting the job.

And legally all employers have to keep interview notes, and legally any candidate can request their interview notes if they suspect they have been discriminated against.

Seuss · 01/12/2008 13:09

You can't let things like tics limit what you do, if people are shocked they need to go off and deal with it.

fancyliontamer · 01/12/2008 13:10

what about the elderly? i'm sure if my 80 year old mother was called a fucking wanker by the shop assistant in m&s she'd never recover. not many people have even heard of tourettes let alone understand it.

Seuss · 01/12/2008 13:11

'allowed' - I wasn't being disable/non-disabled specific - just meant people in general who might like to swim in wee & plasters. They might be out there?!?!

Seuss · 01/12/2008 13:14

My gran doesn't get why ds shout 'f' - it hasn't killed her though.

TheLadyEvenstar · 01/12/2008 13:14

fancyliontamer

are you telling us your mother has never heard a swear word???? PLEASE!!!

I am sure she has heard kids say worse things. My nan died 2 years ago aged 84 and if someone had sworn at her she would have probably not taken a bit of notice. She had senile dementure and often was abusive to her carers calling them names...should she have been locked up? hidden away? or maybe left to rot?

racmac · 01/12/2008 13:20

I am sure she has heard kids say worse things. My nan died 2 years ago aged 84 and if someone had sworn at her she would have probably not taken a bit of notice. She had senile dementure and often was abusive to her carers calling them names...should she have been locked up? hidden away? or maybe left to rot?

I havent ever suggested this woman should have been locked away or not allowed out - im saying i was shocked - thats because i do not know of any other person who has tourettes and particularly not working in a high street store serving customers. The DDA will make this a more common site and yes this is a good thing - people will hopefully become more tolerant of difficulties and differences and that is a good thing.

I think the thread has moved on and talking about shit and wee in a swimming pool is so far away from my original post Im completely at a loss on what to say!

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VictorianSqualor · 01/12/2008 13:21

I was going to say similar TheLadyEvenstar.
DP's grandma swore at the social worker who had come round to assess and help her. I get the impression she'd heard the word before...

ChristmasFairySantAsSLut · 01/12/2008 13:22

intersting thread...read about half of it...and can't make my mind up about it at all...actually I got more confused as I read on, lol!

but equal opportunities....hm, totally agree with them per se....however...I do think that equal opportunity does not mean that you don't have to be suitable for your role, or does it?
Saying that, I suppose a bit of swearing is not the end of the world....however,where I live people swear all the time...without excuses...so, have probably just toughened up about this anyway...

fancyliontamer · 01/12/2008 13:22

yes of course she has, but not by a shop assistant in marks & spencers.

sorry, but if i was running a shop i wouldn't have someone that might swear at my customers working on the till. and before you tell me i'd be taken to court, a man with a beard took waitrose to court because they wouldn't give him a job on the fish counter, ( it was a health hazzard.)

waitrose won.

VictorianSqualor · 01/12/2008 13:23

racmac, your OP said "AIBU in expecting that she shouldnt be serving customers?"
Quite different to your recent post, non?

TheLadyEvenstar · 01/12/2008 13:23

RacMac

errr did i direct that at you???

read again.

fancyliontamer is who i directed that comment to. Talk about chip on ones shoulder

StewieGriffinsMom · 01/12/2008 13:23

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ChristmasFairySantAsSLut · 01/12/2008 13:23

hm, there is a bit of a difference though to swear at your carer, who will be familiar with your problem and swearing at your customer, who will be exposed unexpectedly....

TheLadyEvenstar · 01/12/2008 13:25

fancyliontamer, Then thank god you don't run a shop. Would hate to walk in there and somehow upset your perfect world of not letting those who may swear in the presence of others.

Personally as I have already said I take my hat off to the woman in question she has got guts, and confidence many people would love to have.

Seuss · 01/12/2008 13:27

racmac sorry 'bout the pool tangent - my fault. I can understand why you were initially shocked.