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to feel uncomfortable being served by woman with tourettes that kept swearing at me?

633 replies

racmac · 30/11/2008 17:30

I went to a well known high street store and was served by a lady who had tourettes. I have no problem with this or any of her ticks BUT she kept saying cunt and wanker - i dont use these words in front of my children so dont expect others to AIBU in expecting that she shouldnt be serving customers?

It was rather disconcerting to be told "thats £20.00 please, cunt, wanker"

Racmac

OP posts:
Anna8888 · 30/11/2008 21:04

at bossiness being a quality for any kind of teaching role...

needmorecoffee · 30/11/2008 21:05

just having a small gack over the introduction of the word 'suffering'. It will be 'tragic' next, mark my words....

CatchaStar · 30/11/2008 21:05

Not in this particular case if it is around small children, no.

No objections to anybody working, do as you please. But don't expect me to be happy that the shop assistant just used words such as 'cunt' and 'wanker' in front of my child. Disability or not.

Anna8888 · 30/11/2008 21:05

Well, perhaps, needmorecoffee. But someone else is financing it. I presume his parents...

needmorecoffee · 30/11/2008 21:06

what is so precious about 'small children'. Please explain?

Libra1975 · 30/11/2008 21:07

'Therefore when I see or hear someone with a diability it can shock me and it can upset me, because I'm not used to it. '

ok as someone else who doesn't regularly interact with those with disabilities I can understand shock (but hate myself when I feel that way) but UPSET? Why on earth would it upset you?
Isn't the fact this women is in the public eye good? Shouldn't our ill-informed/offensive prejudices/reactions be challenged and hopefully changed?

needmorecoffee · 30/11/2008 21:07

again Anna, maybe he has a job. Disabled people can work you know.

needmorecoffee · 30/11/2008 21:08

I'm just pondering the fact that there are people out there who get shocked and upset when they see me.
Haven't seen any run screaming yet.

Anna8888 · 30/11/2008 21:08

It would surprise me greatly that it would pay for that kind of clothing. I cannot see many 20 year olds earning that kind of money...

frogs · 30/11/2008 21:10

Agree with jimjams and others re exposure to disability. My ds has 2 children with ADHD in his class, and there are various other kids with physical and behavioural issues throughout the school. Being an inner-city primary there are also kids who are just plain old badly behaved.

All my dc have witnessed behaviour that is quite extreme in one way or another, but the school deals with it very well, supports kids with extra needs very well, and it certainly hasn't been a problem for us. Even nursery-age children are quite capable of understanding 'X find it hard to behave nicely, just take no notice when he does ABC, he's trying to learn not to'.

Over the summer I took the my dc and my cousin's dc who go to a very sheltered selective school to use the swimming pool at an outdoor activity centre for disabled people (they let non-disabled locals use the facilities if you become a member, there's no public swimming pool for miles). None of them had been there before, there were several disabled users being quite noisy and eg. hitting themselves. My dc looked once, clearly thought 'yeah, a bit odd, don't really understand that, oh well, whatever' and promptly lost interest. The other dc were gawping to the point that I had to tell them repeatedly to stop staring, and were clearly quite freaked out by it. The difference in reactions was really striking, and made me realise how lucky mine are, tbh, to be growing up in an environment where they've learnt not to judge people on the basis of behaviour or appearance.

needmorecoffee · 30/11/2008 21:10

Catastar, best not walk on my street. You'd probably end up faitning seeing me and dd together. We are both disabled and use wheelchairs.

MrsSnape · 30/11/2008 21:10

My kids would have found it hilarious if someone started randomly swearing like that. There is a bloke that runs around the city centre who has tourettes, he mutters "fuck off" constantly under his breath and if he see's kids anywhere he blurts out "They should be at school!" ... even if its a saturday or the middle of the summer holidays. I've not found my kids ears bleeding yet. The woman probably has enough shit to put up with through her life, having tourettes would be absolutely awful. I think its great that she's employed and able to live a normal life and great that she has the confidence to do so.

TheFalconInThePearTree · 30/11/2008 21:11

Hercules you have ruined my night.

I won't be able to go to sleep until I find this ad.

needmorecoffee · 30/11/2008 21:11

I'm also intrigued as to how you can tell how much someone's clothes cost? I honestly couldn't tell the difference between Asda and Saville Row without hauling out the label.

myredcardigan · 30/11/2008 21:11

I think the problem here is that those parents of children with disabilities are so sick of the constant actual discrimination that they and their children face that they become defensive and a little hardened as to what other mothers are sensitive to.

I am very sensitive to swearing and will avoid my children hearing it as much as is possible but I can imagine this is laughable to parents who are constantly needing to shield their children from fascist, ignorant narrow minded members of society.

Anna8888 · 30/11/2008 21:12

Practice, needmorecoffee

needmorecoffee · 30/11/2008 21:12

are they in school yet myredcardigan. Seriously, its alosing battle. But you can teach them not to swear themselves.

CoteDAzur · 30/11/2008 21:13

ruddy - What are you talking about? What 'colleagues'?

needmorecoffee · 30/11/2008 21:13

I don't get out a lot Anna. Thats cos poeple faint and scream
Clothes all look the same to me.

ruddynorah · 30/11/2008 21:13

i'm not a parent of a disabled child.

that isn't 'the problem here.'

luckylady74 · 30/11/2008 21:14

CatchAstar - can you reread the thread please? People have suggested/said all of those things.
It is your responsibility to educate yourself a little better.
There's nothing wrong with being shocked, but there is everything wrong with discrimination.

mabanana · 30/11/2008 21:14

I will be unpopular here but I think it is vital that people with disabilities are employed, and I applaud companies that employ people with disabilities. But as for all of us, surely, the employment must be suited to their skills and personality. A quadraplegic who can talk could be a high court judge, but not a shelf-stacker. A blind person could be, say Home Secretary but not a driving instructor. I think a person with Tourettes who swore uncontrollably (if the OP is genuine) could as a designer, in management controlling stock or quality, but I honestly don't think that a job where she will be dealing with constantly changing members of the public including children is appropriate.

Reallytired · 30/11/2008 21:15

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Anna8888 · 30/11/2008 21:16

mabanana - I agree.

CatchaStar · 30/11/2008 21:17

By needmorecoffee:

'Therefore when I see or hear someone with a diability it can shock me and it can upset me, because I'm not used to it. '

oh ffs. Get used to it. Educate yourself.

Ok, I'll spend the rest of my life looking up EVERY disability in the world just so that it pleases you shall I? Sorry but you're being rude. You cannot expect people just to 'educate themselves' just to suit you and your situation.

I'm sorry you seem so hostile and angry to those of us who are a bit fazed by this kind of thing. But unfortunately the truth of the matter is, you're the unreasonable one to expect every person to be ok with this if they're not used to it. We don't all deal with this kind of thing everyday the way others do, therefore we get shocked at the unknown and we don't always understand.

When my dd is old enough to ask 'mummy why doesn't that little boy have any legs?' I'll just say 'oh ffs, get used to it and educate yourself' shall I?

Lovely.