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Need to vent- sister smoked throughout pregnancy and now baby is in special care.

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ILikeYourSleeves · 29/09/2008 16:35

I wasn't sure where to post this and it's probably a vent rather than an AIBU but I have been thinking about this all weekend and need to vent somewhere. My sister had a baby girl on Saturday (her first) and she is unfortunately in the special care ward in an incubator She stopped breathing when she was born and had to be resuscitated and had oxygen for the first day of her life. She is also having to be fed through a tube and has a drip. She is getting better but I feel so sorry for the wee lamb and the difficult start she has had. I am obviously aware that it's a difficult time for my sister, she is separated from her baby and is worried if she will be OK. But I guess I am posting here due to the many mixed emotions I am feeling as my sister smoked heavily throughout her pregnancy. I can't help but wonder if the baby is having breathing and lung problems because of the smoking and that's making me feel pretty angry towards my sister. She said she was going to give up when she found out she was PG but she didn't, despite me trying to encourage her, pointing out the risks etc. Yes I totally understand it's an addiction (I am an ex-smoker myself from years ago) but to still smoke when PG really gets me. I spoke to her about it again only a few weeks ago as she said she didn't think she would breastfeed because she would still be smoking when the baby is here (!), and I asked her if she actually wanted to quit to which she said 'no'. I find that quite unbelieveable, it's not that she wants to quit but can't, but more that she enjoys smoking and doesn't actually want to stop.

What really got me I think though was that after we gazed at the little baby (also low birthweight & 2 weeks early) covered in wires and tubes, and having a tube forced up through her nose and down her throat, my sister and her bloke then went outside the maternity ward for a fag.

I didn't say anything to her despite screaming inside as I know she has so much on her plate anyway with her baby being so poorly, but aararrrarrrrrggggghhhhhhhhhhh!!! I just think it's very selfish and would have thought that seeing your baby all hooked up would be enough to make you think it's really time to quit. Yes she will be stressed and is perhaps using cigs to cope but I am so angry- AIBU???? I'm sure some of you will think I need to butt out and keep my opinions to myself but fair enough if an adult wants to kill themselves with fags but when you see a tiny defenseless baby who can't have that choice, well it's truly awful. They are going to keep smoking at home too despite SIDS research.

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Tamarto · 29/09/2008 16:39

You don't know that what's wrong with the baby has anything to do with her smoking though.

As a smoker, she no doubt feels smoking helps calm her, so it's understandable that she'd go have one after something upsetting.

thesockmonsterofdoom · 29/09/2008 16:43

however you feel imagine how she feels, that is her baby, it may have nothing to do with smoking, but in her mind she probably thinks that it does and is killing inside.
I hope the baby is Ok and you can give your sister the support she needs at what must be a very difficult time for her.

gabygirl · 29/09/2008 16:49

The baby's illness could have nothing to do with your sister's smoking in pregancy.

But if your sister and her partner take this poorly baby home and smoke around her then they are guilty of abuse.

If I was in your shoes I would wait. If you find they're smoking at home around your neice then say something - if you don't stand up for this poor little baby then who will?

bubblagirl · 29/09/2008 16:49

i would hope you dont blame her and when your around her dont seethe inside that it is her fault ui have friends who smoked in pregnancy none had low birth weights or breathing problems

i feel for your sister the pain she must be feeling now must be intrense without thinking close family are blaming her let the fact go she smoked you dont agree some babies are at risk etc but she needs support right now not blame

and again it may have nothiong to do with smoking so would be a shame for all to point fingers and blame when she needs support and love

big hugs to the baby and hoping for a speedy recovery to be at home with her loving mummy

jesuswhatnext · 29/09/2008 16:51

i don't think YABU at all - your sister took a bloody big gamble with her babys life and health and lost , whatever her feelings of guilt are it is nothing to the baby is now having to go through, we all know the risks of smoking while pregnant and i feel not much sympathy for her tbh - i would save sysmpathy and support for the baby if i were in your position.

bubblagirl · 29/09/2008 16:52

my dp smokes but would not smoke in room with baby and would go outside

she is stressed i know from smokers they need to light up i dont smoke but at times through stress wished i did

again seeing the baby hooked up etc you are blaming her you may not agree with her smoking but do not blame her for her daughter being so ill and stop pointimng fingers let her smoke she is upset she needs it

you can plum in not to smoke in same room but stiop blaming her unles sthey say this is smoking related but i have seen lots of babies born to mothers who smoke and all have been ok

bubblagirl · 29/09/2008 16:53

i dont condone smoking in pregnancy but i tend not to judge but i do feel sorry for her its tough being a smoker doesnt mean she doesnt deserve sympothy for her ill child

noonki · 29/09/2008 16:55

YANBU - My DP constantly takes people to hospital having prem babies and the percentage of those that are smokers/in smoking households is massively above the national average

It is horrible to smoke whilst pregnant (I gave up the day I found out I was pregnant)

MrsMattie · 29/09/2008 16:55

I don't think YABU. I would feel very upset about this, too.

compo · 29/09/2008 16:56

yanbu to feel the way you do
but make sure you vent on here and not at her, it won't do any good and might harm your relationship with her for good. You can't make her give up unfortunately

TotalChaos · 29/09/2008 16:57

i agree with bubbla. i wonder if you are jumping at the explanation of smoking being the culprit as a way of making sense to yourself of the fact that your niece is so unwell. i really don't think anyone can definitely say that your niece is so unwell due to smoking in pregnancy, so it would be kinder not to blame your sister.

jesuswhatnext · 29/09/2008 16:58

sorry, but i'm judging - i'm a ex very heavy smoker, i knew it could kill me, i knew it could harm an un-born baby and gave up before i ttc, a parents instinct should be to protect. - i also think that to use stress as an excuse to smoke is a crap one! maybe if she had put her un-born baby first then she may not be so 'stressed' now.

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ephrinedaily · 29/09/2008 17:00

My God. Are you dying to say I told you so or something? Do you feel all superior and secretly justified now? I didn't smoke through the whole pregnancy and my baby was born early. It was an extremely worrying time and I would have had a fag after labour if I'd had any, I'm sure it would have made me feel a lot better. Still not smoking now, not that it's any of your business. Leave your sister alone if you can't support her at this time. Whether smoking caused her baby's illness is not yet known and in my opinion immaterial to the support you give her now.

JodieG1 · 29/09/2008 17:00

YANBU. Smoking is linked with premature births and low birth weight, if she smoked the whole way through I would think that played a part, if not all, of the reason why her baby is ill.

My dd was premature and it was awful, I would never have smoked in my pregnancy and I used to smoke.

I wouldn't say anything to someone in that position because obviously she will be feeling upset but I do think that's it highly irresponsible of them to intend on smoking around the baby at home, especially in light of her premature birth.

I feel sorry for the baby being subjected to the smoke when she goes home.

hatrick · 29/09/2008 17:02

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thesockmonsterofdoom · 29/09/2008 17:05

but she said she was going top continue smoking, that doesn't mean around the baby. I would assume they will not smoke in the house. both my babies were very low birth weight and early and I did not smoke in pregnancy, things happen for all sorts of reasons.

jesuswhatnext · 29/09/2008 17:07

imo smoking during pregancy is indefensible.

my thoughts are with the baby. hope she is better soon.

bubblagirl · 29/09/2008 17:08

i think its going to become a personal attack on your sister and i really feel sorry for her we all have our own opinions on whats right or wrong and thats ok we wouldnt do things to our children that others would

my partner smoked never smoked in same room or in house with baby who's saying they wont smoke outside

i think what is important now is that your sis has support and the baby mak4es a speedy recovery even if you dont like the fact she smoked in pregnancy or smokes at all it really isnt the issue the issue is you feel you have to blame her in her time of need smoking may have contributed it may not either way she could be blaming herself and now has a whole post hating her too

she is a new mum full of emotion with a sick child i wish her and her baby all the best and support and hope if she chooses to smoke when she comes home she does it outside

jesuswhatnext · 29/09/2008 17:09

anything COULD have happened to anyone of our un-born babys, why add to the risk of illness etc buy doing something KNOWN to cause harm?

KerryMum · 29/09/2008 17:09

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TotalChaos · 29/09/2008 17:10

agree again with bubbla.

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policywonk · 29/09/2008 17:11

Actually, I think the crappest part of your sister/BIL's behaviour is deliberate decision to continue smoking at home - that's something they could easily do something about (by smoking outside).

As to the rest of it - I can see it's upsetting for you but I think you're being too judgemental.

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