really fed up

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with everytime someone produces another disruptive, out of control, violent, rude etc etc etc child the pc brigade give them a condition, and name. whatever happened to just plain naughty and needing disipline. makes me soooooo blody angry.

i never said my children were angels (although now you mention it) this is a forum, you chose to read the thread just as i choice to post on it. it is what one calls having an opinion. i beleive we are still living in a free (if what violent) country?

no it cannot be accepted that people are making excuses for the children. and until it can, society will get worse and worse.

yeah ASD diagnoses are dished out like smarties aren't they .

Actually shootfromthehip I think that I acknowledged that there were (of course) some bad parents. Also that there are also problems with systems and gaining help for some children with difficulties.

The world is indeed different than it was fifty years ago. Amen to that or my child would have been institutionalised, instead of thriving in mainstream school!

so whats your advice for me and my 7 year old ds.

How dare I what? Point out how rude and ill thought out your comments are?

This is a nasty thread designed to get a reaction, and you have got one.

get that chip off your shoulder?

Does no-one else know the sort of parent I'm talking about or is everyone just too busy taking everything personally?

I can't believed that an op who has been narrow minded and offesive throughout this thread now has the front to be offended by the honest replies received!!!!

The lack of understanding and complete belief in their own righteousness(?sp) leaves me gobsmacked!!

Although I have to say I am mildly amused at (not by) the op (although not at the expense of those who are genuinely dealing with this kind of situaton)

Why name change. If you believe so strongly about this why hide behind a namechange.

no one has a clue they are too busy slating my spelling and misinterpritating(ooo thats wrong isnt it) my posts. just the sort of parents i mean.

'get that chip off your shoulder? '

is that to me?

I've worked wqith children in care for over ten years and I agree that there is overdiagnosis in that area.
I've met kids that do seem to have a problem until you go to their home and see the chaos there. Tellys, radios, playstations on in every room - so much noise that it would send a budist monk reaching for the ritalin. And parents of course living their lives at such a manic tempo it can't help but seed down to the kids. .
That said, there are loads of p[arents who are not like this. Who have treid everything and will continue doing so. You only have to see the web sites that have sprung up around this issue to see many parents are doing all they can - including diets, behavioural techniques etc.
There but for the grace of God...

because i wanted to. i have not been offensive or narrow minded

I don't think anyone is misinterpretating your comments. You blame the parents full stop irrelevant of any extenuating circumstances they are simply crap lazy parents end of. Did I get that right? And I couldn't care less about your grammar nor spelling as mine is preety bad too.

Have I misread? Why is everyone so upset? (I suspect i have misread)

I accept that there are parents out there who reach for a diagnosis as an excuse but this can not be generalised in the manner that it has been. For every poor parent there are others at their wits end trying, diets, exercise, fish oils anything realy to help make family life better and indeed trying to avoid the stigma of labels

Why post in "Am I Being Unreasonable?" if you are so certain that you're not? Or were you so busy name-changing that you posted in the wrong section?

i am not saying all parents are bad i am saying why are some and why does everyone give bad behaviour a name/condition. if a child is disruptive etc why shoud it be in mainstream school disrupting other cihildrns education and making teachers lives hell. if a child has a genuin condition the parent should not try and make him what he isnt by getting him into the same schoo etc.so many blinkered people on here. im off to pick my angels up,

Exactly Doris

Most parents try really hard to help their children and actually accept their limitations.

So are you saying that a child with a dx'ed SN shouldn't be in a mainstream school?

I feel sweeping generalisation of the sort you have been using are offensive and possibly intended to be so

"I can't believed that an op who has been narrow minded and offesive throughout this thread now has the front to be offended by the honest replies received!!!!"

Well, quite. Maybe OP expected everyone to go 'ooh you're right, dreadful parents, society today etc'

i am saying children with disruptive and violent needs should not. dont put words in my mouth.i know loads of parents who agree with me at my local school and at work.