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AIBU?

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To want my family to pronounce ds2's name correctly?

235 replies

FrannyandZooey · 02/09/2008 12:30

I am honestly not sure if I am. I feel like this is a big deal and want them to get it right, but they are all so convinced that their way is the right way, and it doesn't seem to matter what I say, that I am wondering...

It is a slightly unusual name that can be pronounced two ways. Not hard to say, at all.

If IANBU, how do I deal with this?

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highschoolmusical · 02/09/2008 20:30

My father never said my name as it should be.

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popsycal · 02/09/2008 20:40

Oh Franny
We are probably going to end up calling ds3 Joseph to be known as Joe.

I my accent, it is Jo-sif/Jo-sef and Joe
but dh says the o sound longer than I do and is insisting on a slight v sound rather than an f sound

And the add to it, his brother and his family are from w yorks and it will be 'Jerrrr' and 'Jerrrrr-sev'

It is never straight forward

popsycal · 02/09/2008 20:40

xpost with cali

PinkTulips · 02/09/2008 20:44

i got so used to correcting the way people said ds's name that when i had to go to the garda station (cop shop) to get the dc's passports stamped and the lovely garda said his name out loud i automatically said the opposite pronounciation.... only to realise 10 seconds later that he'd said it right and i'd said it wrong

rather than keeping my mouth shut like a clever human being would have done i then proceeded to correct myself

i'm surprised he stamped the passports tbh

pamelat · 02/09/2008 20:59

On reading the name before you wrote it phoenetially, I also pronouced it wrong.

Not unreasonable to expect them to learn how to pronounce it, just gently remind them each time. Maybe point out how you can see how they say it "wrong".

3andnomore · 02/09/2008 21:01

erm...Lucian pronounced Loo-shun...why are they getting it wrong...even to this pea=-sized german it is quite obvious that it would be pronounced that way....
so YANBU , especially if you tell them how you like it pronounced....it isn't that difficult....

3andnomore · 02/09/2008 21:04

lol at pinktulip

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thisisyesterday · 02/09/2008 21:21

well I shall tip the balance in favour of Looshun here lol

Hatrick had told me what you'd called him and I did wonder if it was Loo-see-un or Loo-shun.

Now I know!!!

and yes, of course it is Ever-lyn, not Eve-lyn

zazen · 02/09/2008 21:22

YANBU to think your family could get it right! Even if the world won't.

I would pronounce Lucien as Loo-see-en as in Lucian Freud.
And my gran was called Evelyn and called Ev-lyn, so I'd prob not be welcome in your house either!!! And Eye-zac is how I pronounce Isacc!!! There, I'm banned completly!!

Seriously there will be people who are hard of hearing who will get names wrong and people who pronounce Rs in everything - I heard a girl called emma called emmer the other day. Some people just can't pronounce words - their tongues just won't work that way. Are they wrong? think of the Japanese and Chinese unable to pronounce Rs and in the West, we are mostly unable to pronounce NG.

At 6 weeks IMHO it's a bit soon to expect them to get it right, unless there is another issue of them never listening to you etc etc that's getting your goat, I'd cut them some slack - give them till Xmas.

Oh and Congratulations on the birth of your little baby Loo-shun!

zazen · 02/09/2008 21:23

YANBU to think your family could get it right! Even if the world won't.

I would pronounce Lucien as Loo-see-en as in Lucian Freud.
And my gran was called Evelyn and called Ev-lyn, so I'd prob not be welcome in your house either!!! And Eye-zac is how I pronounce Isacc!!! And I pronounce Elenore as Elle-la-nore, not Elena. There, I'm banned completely!!

Seriously there will be people who are hard of hearing who will get names wrong and people who pronounce Rs in everything - I heard a girl called emma called emmer the other day. Some people just can't pronounce words - their tongues just won't work that way. Are they wrong? think of the Japanese and Chinese unable to pronounce Rs and in the West, we are mostly unable to pronounce NG.

At 6 weeks IMHO it's a bit soon to expect them to get it right, unless there is another issue of them never listening to you etc etc that's getting your goat, I'd cut them some slack - give them till Xmas.

Oh and Congratulations on the birth of your little baby Loo-shun!

GetOrfMoiLand · 02/09/2008 21:27

I have some relatives who mispronounce my daughter's name.

She is called Sophia; I (and everyone in the world who is sane) pronounce it So-FEE-a, however they pronounce it So-FYE-a. It is deeply annoying, as well as
making dd sound like a character in a Regency costume drama. They excuse themselves by saying that the way they pronounce it is the classically correct way. At which point I realy have to restrain myself from giving them the finger in a childish manner.

DD is nearly 13, btw, so don't expect it to change any time soon.

Families (grr)

ElfOnTheTopShelf · 02/09/2008 21:29

I'm glad I am not the only one who has this trouble. I'd never heard Eve Lyn before I named DD Ever Lyn; and people kept asking us how to pronounce it! Some people still get it wrong, those who mind just call her Boo / Evie!

FWIW, I have been giggling about my daughter (who is nearly three) who has started saying sand caaaarstle, which she has picked up from my dad. I reckon she is going to start saying barth next and I'll be saying "BATH not BARTH!!"

But as long as she can pronounce her name right, that's fine with me

FrannyandZooey · 02/09/2008 21:29

i have a feeling lucian freud is looshun also

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crumpet · 02/09/2008 21:30

Loo-shun sounds like an American pronunciation of Lu-see-un. Probably why in Gladiator it's pronounced Looshun... Think in the UK you would more probably find it pronounced Lu-see-un. You jsut need to make it clear to your family that yes, there are 2 ways of pronouncing the name, and this is the way you have chosen!

QuintessentialShadow · 02/09/2008 21:30

I think I heard Lord Lucan pronounced as Looshun. Could be mistaken.

WOuldnt it be so much easier if you liked Lu -se - an better?

TinkerBellesMum · 02/09/2008 21:33

Fizzylemonade Tink's middle name is Sara with the traditional pronunciation (ie Sarah). It came to the UK as Sara but people kept pronouncing it hard so the H was added to soften it back to the correct spelling. I have a lot of friends called Sarah and one insists on telling her daughter (who's obsessed with full names) it's the hard pronunciation. It's not like we've been wacky, it's the correct spelling, not the common spelling.

lol Pink!

Pronunciation and particularly accents were the reason we chose the spelling Isobel. I can just hear in my minds ear emphasis on the A in the Brummie accent. As much as I love the Brummie accent I couldn't stand that way of spelling it. So we decided to fore go the "pretty" spellings (eg Isabelle) and have the simple version Isobel. That way we can say "there's no A in Isobel".

ravenAK · 02/09/2008 21:37

I would assume Loo-shun for Lucian, being a Classics nerd, but would swiftly change to Loo-see-an if the child's parents were using that pronunciation.

We have this with dd1. She's Alicia (A-Liss-i-ya) & people often pronounce it A-leez-ya. I never overtly correct people though (she can do that herself when she's older - she might prefer A-leez-ya) but do respond with correct pronunciation, eg. 'How's A-leez-ya?' 'A-liss-i-ya's fine'

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Tortington · 02/09/2008 21:40

i think you just need it out - at dinner one day just say.

"its looshun god damn it all to hell"

thisisyesterday · 02/09/2008 21:41

ravenAK, a friend of mine has a niece called Aleesha (in my head) and she once sent me a text about someone called Alicia and I couldn't for the life of me figure out who she was on about until I realised that it was her niece,
spelled Alicia, but pronounced Aleesha.

weird

seeker · 02/09/2008 21:41

Lucian Freud is Lu-cee-an. Can anybody actually come up with a Looshun - except Frannyand Zoey's enchanting ds, of course?